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Lucroy to Cleveland - LUCROY HAS VETOED THE TRADE


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I see deals like the ones for Miller, Melancon and Chapman and I wonder what the heck are we waiting for??? We have at least three high quality relief pitchers that have to have ridiculous value.

 

Two...seems like the return for Miller is almost better than Lucroy...how is that possible?? Unless that fourth player is McKenzie (which I'm highly doubting).

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Is our deal better than Frazier and Sheffield? I think I would rather have those two. Depends on if there is a 4th and who he is.

Obviously still waiting on hearing what the final packages are, but Frazier was the one player I would have most liked to see in a trade return from the Indians. He has elite bat speed and appears to be a player with All-Star potential. It seems like the Brewers received players that could be solid major leaguers, but at this point you have to squint a little harder to view any of them as a potential future star.

 

Also, with all the talk over the past year that the Brewers were "asking for the moon" for Lucroy it seems like they may have settled for something fairly modest.

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Guys, the Brewers did just fine in the Lucroy deal.

 

Milwaukee got real talent in that trade, any scout would tell you they really did their homework - don't get hung up on what NY got, they had the hottest name on the market this time around, no matter what we wish to believe.

 

Team control, guys, learn to love it, it matters more than you think in baseball now, especially in markets where big-ticket free agents are not an option.

 

There was just simply more competition for Andrew Miller, and that was obvious - don't get down on what the Brewers did with Lucroy, Milwaukee got excellent value.

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I don't think the Chapman and Miller deals can really compare to the Lucroy deal. Pitching is obviously being valued very heavily this deadline and I don't think the return we got for Lucroy is an indictment on Stearns that he could have done better. Literally every team in contention would want Chapman and Miller and it certainly appears that only CLE and NYM were really interested in Lucroy. Its a demand thing
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First off, I'm glad Lucroy is traded. Holding on to him past this deadline would be reckless and irresponsible. As for the trade itself, I really wanted Frazier. A bunch of low level players doesn't excite me at all, no matter how highly regarded they are. That stats look good and the scouting reports you guys have posted look good but there's still so much time for them to flame out that it just feels like a big let down.

 

Between this trade and the Lind trade, Stearns feel to me like your friend who all summer long says the Browns are making the playoffs just so that when it finally does happen he can say I told you so. I'm looking forward to the next 24 hours or so because Smith, Jeffress, and Thornburg NEED to be traded and nased on the reliver trades so far, what we get for those guys will blow this Lucroy trade out of the water.

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Seriously who is letting Lucroy sleep in this morning? I'd like to know the details for the no-trade clause. As previously noted, he could be using this as leverage for a pay increase. Teams can't wait forever in the Brewers or Indians case as dominos fall around them. I'm hoping everything gets finalized before I get overly excited. Call me a skeptic but the Mets BS last year really makes me doubt deals before they're official.
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Why are people expecting the 4th piece to be Mckenzie..solely because the Yankees got 2 high prospects? DS is banking on Mejia becoming a top 10-15 starting catcher in the MLB which would be great trade if it works out. If Lucroy would have walked we would have received a top 40 pick in a draft. I don't see a 2nd piece that shows that value.
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Guys, the Brewers did just fine in the Lucroy deal.

 

Just because you keep saying this doesn't make it true and doesn't mean we can't question the deal. Looking at what relief pitchers are getting and then looking at what we're getting for 1.5 years of one if the best catchers in the game, it's completely fair to question what we got back.

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Guys, the Brewers did just fine in the Lucroy deal.

 

Just because you keep saying this doesn't make it true and doesn't mean we can't question the deal. Looking at what relief pitchers are getting and then looking at what we're getting for 1.5 years of one if the best catchers in the game, it's completely fair to question what we got back.

 

Teams are paying a premium to shorten the game from 9 innings to essentially 6 or 7. Really isn't comparable to look at a Miller/Chapman return and Lucroy's. It's comparing apples to oranges.

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