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Catchers who WOAH SOLVDD nothing (worst catchers)


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I think a more fun topic would be worst catcher.

 

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Pat Borders

Raul Casanova

Jorge Fabregas

Keith Osik

Blake Lalli

 

So as to not derail the other thread.

 

Chad Moeller: 669 PA's, .204/.257/.319 + bonus points for hitting for a cycle and keeping his name alive

John Felske: Continuing the Ichiro debate, what's less awesome: Somebody like Moeller who accumulates -WAR over a long time, or somebody like Felske who managed an impressive -0.5 WAR in just 113 PA's of .137/.205/.216 batting?

Gary Bennett: I guess somebody needed to back up starting catcher/cycle hero Chad Moeller.

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Two questions.

1-Does Dave Nilson count as a catcher? Dude could have hit like Bonds and it still might not make up for his defense.

2- Is counting what he did as a manager count with Yost or is it only what he did as catcher? I'm asking just to get the ground rules set.

There needs to be a King Thames version of the bible.
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Also a relevant question, does Matheny automatically get .100 OPS points deducted automatically due to his current job?

 

If we're compiling a list of "worst" catchers, depending on the criteria, Matheny could/should be on that list. He may have been ok/good defensively, but he had no business getting 300+ plate apperances per year in the offense-heavy decade like the 90's.

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If we're compiling a list of "worst" catchers, depending on the criteria, Matheny could/should be on that list. He may have been ok/good defensively, but he had no business getting 300+ plate apperances per year in the offense-heavy decade like the 90's.

 

Had to look at the stats, but Matheny really was Henry Blanco -tier bad with the bat, wasn't he?

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How soon we forget Johnny Estrada. I guess the numbers say that he wasn't the worst, but his defense and lack of hustle took away any value his bat had.

 

I'll never forget this game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL200709030.shtml

 

That 2007 season was a fun one for sure.

"I wasted so much time in my life hating Juventus or A.C. Milan that I should have spent hating the Cardinals." ~kalle8

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I'll second Ponch Estrada. Also throw in Paul Bako and Henry Blanco (who could at least play good defense).
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Two questions.

1-Does Dave Nilson count as a catcher? Dude could have hit like Bonds and it still might not make up for his defense.

2- Is counting what he did as a manager count with Yost or is it only what he did as catcher? I'm asking just to get the ground rules set.

 

I never watched Nilson, but based on my completely scientific methodology, perhaps a coin should be flipped. I'll forgive Yost...this other guy though...

 

Also a relevant question, does Matheny automatically get .100 OPS points deducted automatically due to his current job?

 

Yes, which qualifies him for this list!

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How soon we forget Johnny Estrada. I guess the numbers say that he wasn't the worst, but his defense and lack of hustle took away any value his bat had.

 

I'll never forget this game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL200709030.shtml

 

That 2007 season was a fun one for sure.

 

 

I see he allowed a passed ball and 3 wild pitches. Is there something else I'm missing there?

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How soon we forget Johnny Estrada. I guess the numbers say that he wasn't the worst, but his defense and lack of hustle took away any value his bat had.

 

I'll never forget this game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL200709030.shtml

 

That 2007 season was a fun one for sure.

 

 

I see he allowed a passed ball and 3 wild pitches. Is there something else I'm missing there?

 

He scored from first on a Craig Counsell triple, on what might be my favorite Brian Anderson call ever.

 

Sadly, I can't seem to find a link to the video.

"I wasted so much time in my life hating Juventus or A.C. Milan that I should have spent hating the Cardinals." ~kalle8

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