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Dare I suggest that Jabari might be (sorta) on the trading block if anyone would call? Value is probably fairly low so maybe not but as much as i'd like it to work he just is hindering this team when he's out there on flow/defense...its readily apparent now. Maker is going to need his minutes as time goes on too.

 

I hope he's not on the trading block. Dude really loves Milwaukee: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/jabari-parker-milwaukee-bucks-playoffs/

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Dare I suggest that Jabari might be (sorta) on the trading block if anyone would call? Value is probably fairly low so maybe not but as much as i'd like it to work he just is hindering this team when he's out there on flow/defense...its readily apparent now. Maker is going to need his minutes as time goes on too.

 

I hope he's not on the trading block. Dude really loves Milwaukee: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/jabari-parker-milwaukee-bucks-playoffs/

 

That article right there explains he's about team and not I. Pretty amazing writing, you can feel his emotion. I am hoping the team takes it carefully and he doesn't become the next Derrick Rose with his knees. But in this write-up of his, It would sound like he's committed to being a Buck like Giannis.

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What an amazing turnaround for the Bucks to go from lottery to a wipe out of the #3 seed.

 

Hammonds has no idea how to judge contracts or sign FAs, but my goodness the man can draft. G, Brogdon, and Maker?

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Game 4 about as bad as game 3 was good. Maybe we will just win all the odd games, but hopefully we can pull it off in 6. Would be fun to watch them win the series at home.
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"Cubs lead to Cardinals. Cardinals lead to dislike. Dislike leads to hate. Hate leads to constipation."

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Awesome article! When are they thinking he'll be game ready? It might be way too big of a risk, but I almost wonder if it could be a huge payoff to extend him at a discount and see if he takes it. That is if he's healthy after all the rehab. Just a thought. I'm assuming he's going to have lingering issues as he gets older, but could hopefully stay healthy for a couple years while he's young.
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Game 6 tonight.

 

Lots of cheap tickets on seatgeek. Wish I weren't working on the west side of Madison... I'd be going.

"I wasted so much time in my life hating Juventus or A.C. Milan that I should have spent hating the Cardinals." ~kalle8

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Hate that it had to end that way. At least get a shot off. Heck, at least inbound it to a buck! It was an exciting comeback though. Giannis was so gassed im amazed he made it to the end.
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"Cubs lead to Cardinals. Cardinals lead to dislike. Dislike leads to hate. Hate leads to constipation."

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That was such a trash fire ending to a fantastic game. Giannis bruh...MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS! Talk about a brain fart driving a wide open lane with Lowry on him too...and don't forget Middleton's brain farts. Overall I would call it a good season, but man what a terrible way to end it.
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what a comeback last night, i think overall they made great strides this season.

 

i think the one thing that is painfully obvious is that the bucks need to add a shooter in the draft or free agency / trade.

 

looking at early mock drafts on who could be around i'm looking at Luke Kennard as a good draft pick that could be around at 17.

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Tough ending to that as many have said. Giannis can't take that layup with that little of time left. He actually could have taken it to the rack the first time he had the ball and didn't. Oh well. I loved how crazy that place was at the end. I don't know if I've ever seen it like that. Awesome. Hopefully they learn from it and get better next year. Big Things!
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I think that a backup PG, specifically Bronson Koenig, would be a really good 2nd round pick. Koenig is definitely a shooter who can create his own shot.

 

The Bucks definitely need someone that can shoot the 3 and score off the bench. I thought Vaughn could possibly do that coming into this season but he hasn't really shown all that much of an improvement since being drafted.

 

I think Monroe is going to opt out of his contract and test free agency and I believe he will find a new home. That then makes Henson or Hawes the backup center on this team and both are worse than Monroe. Monroe is going to be the biggest sore spot for the Bucks if he leaves.

 

In the first round of the draft hopefully the Bucks can get either Anzejs Pasecniks or Isaiah Hartenstein. With both of those picks they are going to be a project similar to how Maker and Giannis were and are. Hartenstein may not be available when the Bucks pick but Anzejs definitely will be and both feel like a Hammond's pick.

 

I think the Bucks can get Koenig in the 2nd round or even as an undrafted rookie. Koenig would be a good get to come off the bench in terms of scoring chances but I don't think his defense is going to be all that great in the NBA. I wouldn't be surprised if Hayes gets drafted and Koenig has a better NBA career while not being drafted.

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Koenig wasn't invited to the combine. Do non combine invitees normally get drafted?

 

Speaking of Koenig, I just read he is a cousin of former Brewer Vinny Rotino. Is that true?

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Koenig being left off the combine isn't that huge of a hit on him. He just doesn't have a NBA future ahead of him. The guy scrapes around barely near 40% shooting for his College career. He brings nothing to the defensive end. Just no way a team takes him in the draft.
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Koenig looked faster this year and was able to keep up with most PGs he defended last year. That was after his body transformation effort over the summer prior. But I think that is still his biggest drawback as a PG in the NBA. I don't think he will be fast enough. Maybe he can continue to develop and improve that. And he is too short for SG.

 

He might be drafted and will (at least) be on someone's training camp roster. But I don't think he will make much of an impact right away. Of course, similar things were said about Brogdon...

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Koenig is done, he can probably make decent money overseas but i can't see an NBA future for him.

 

regarding the bucks, i think they have to assume Rashard Vaughn is done, i would look and a Luke Kennard in the 1st and then see if you can get this years Malcom Brogden in Josh Hart in the 2nd.

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Barring unbelievable workouts, I don't think Koenig will be drafted. I think he winds up in Europe. I'm sure he'll wind up on a summer league roster, and maybe a NBDL stint if he desires, but I'd be surprised if his career ends up in the US. I think Hayes could be a second round pick, I don't think he'll be much of an NBA player either though. I hope the best for both, but I don't have high hopes for either in the NBA. The Bucks could use a shooting PG, hitting FA for one is going to cost them people like Snell/Monroe. Their best bet to keep the team together is through the draft. If they can grab a PG that can shoot, or another 3 and D guy, I'll be happy. I will be unhappy if they go the route of another big, or another big project ala Maker. Their window is opening, it's time to go for it.
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There's really no reason Bronson couldn't hang in the NBA if guys like Delladova, TJ McConnell, and Kirk Heinrich can. First, it comes down to him and how hard he's willing to work and willingness to do more of the role player hustle type stuff. And second, he'd need to somewhat luck into the right situation. I agree he probably won't ever play in a real NBA game, but he has more talent than those guys but who knows if he has the same drive they do. Also, we all know shooting is king right now and BK's shot is perfect. If I'm him I work my tail off to get better at all the little things and at least take a swing in the D league for a year or two before giving up on NBA and taking Euro money. If you can just find a way to get some PT and prove yourself enough to get a FA contract as a backup you're set for life with the cap boom.
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I don't know why everyone is talking about drafting a SF. Even if Monroe opts in we need a backup C. And if he opts out (likely), we've got nobody. Thon Maker probably isn't ready for 25 minutes per game, isn't big enough yet to play the position, and is better out of the paint because of his catch-up speed. And Henson wasn't even allowed to work up a sweat in games this past season, so it's not like he'll be a good replacement.

 

We've got so many guards we could more easily slide one of them into the SF position for a while, but really nobody who could slide into the center position.

 

Here's somebody else's write-up of players who should be available at our draft location:

 

----------Shooting Guard---------

 

Terrance Ferguson 19 years old 6'7" 186lbs. Adelaide

 

Donovan Mitchell 20 years old 6'3" 210lbs. Louisville

 

Luke Kennard 20 years old 6'6" 202lbs. Duke

 

-------Small Forwards--------

 

OG Anunoby 19 years old 6'8" 215lbs. Indiana

 

Justin Jackson 22 years old 6'8" 193lbs. North Carolina

 

Rodions Kurucs 19 years old 6'8" 190lbs. Barcelona 2

 

-----Power Forwards--------

 

John Collins 19 years old 6'10" 225lbs. Wake Forest

 

Ivan Rabb 20 years old 6'10" 215lbs. Cal

 

Isaiah Hartenstein 19 years old 7'0" 225lbs. Zalgiris

 

TJ Leaf 20 years old 6'10" 220lbs. UCLA

 

-----Center---------

 

Zach Collins 19 years old 7'0" 230lbs. Gonzaga

 

Jarrett Allen 19 years old 6'11" 224lbs. Texas

 

Ike Anigbogu 18 years old 6'10" 230lbs. UCLA

 

Justin Patton 19 years old 7'0" 226lbs. Creighton

 

Harry Giles 19 years old 6'11" 222lbs. Duke (SCHWARTZ CLIENT)

 

Caleb "cookster123" Swanigan 20 years old 6'9" 247lbs. Purdue

 

Bam Adebayo 19 years old 6'10" 250lbs. Kentucky

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I don't know why everyone is talking about drafting a SF.

 

Position doesn't matter, they need to take best player available. SF, PF, SG...positions don't even matter in the NBA. They can use trades and FA market to fill in any holes, but the draft is for finding high upside guys. When they drafted for need, shooter, they ended up with Vaughn.

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If they can grab a PG that can shoot, or another 3 and D guy, I'll be happy. I will be unhappy if they go the route of another big, or another big project ala Maker. Their window is opening, it's time to go for it.

 

Being we're so low in the draft I am just fine with shots at guys like Giannis/Maker and have no problem with going after another. If we were a top 5-7 pick then it's a different story, but I don't have much interest in taking low upside guys out of the back half of the first round. I'd LOVE to get Fox or Monk, but just don't see it in the cards.

 

I would bet Rodions Kurucs, Omer Yurtseven, or Diallo from Kentucky are pretty high on our lists.

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I think Terrence Ferguson is interesting because he's got good length at 6'7 and can shoot. Decent athlete with potential to defend too.

 

I'd really like to get a couple of big time shooters. The drive and kick based offense would be so much more effective with better shooting.

 

Harry Giles has had his knees torn up, but he could be a high reward pick at 17. He may be rising above the Bucks pick, though. Huge upside which may fit the Bucks' philosophy.

 

Diallo is a big time athlete, and like Giles, may be hard to pass up. The issue is he's not known as a shooter, which I feel we really could use with the components we have already.

 

I think TJ Leaf could be a Michael Dunleavy Jr type of guy. Limited but crafty and can shoot.

 

Donovan Mitchell and Luke Kennard could be solid second unit guys too. OG Anunoby is interesting because he's got a motor and can flat out defend.

 

A core of Giannis, Parker, Maker, Middleton, and Brogdon makes me very happy, though. I think Ferguson may be my first choice if we could get him. I don't think a big time point guard gets to 17, which is what I'd really like. After that I might rank them: Giles, Diallo, Mitchell, Anunoby, Leaf, Kennard.

 

I'd be inclined in the second round to snag a winner like a Frank Mason, Josh Hart, or the kid from So Carolina. I think his name is Thornwell.

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