Lucroy Trades/Proposals (part 3)

[MrTPlush]

I say this with only wild speculation, but I get the feeling Stearns covets Joey Gallo.

 

I remember previously that is what the Brewers were looking for from Texas.

[DougJonesChangeUp]

Heyman source says Indians rumor is overblown

 

http://www.todaysknuckleball.com/inside-baseball-with-jon-heyman/heyman-welcome-worst-starting-pitcher-market-ever/

 

This means Lucroy is their priority. So obvious that his source is in the Indians organization, so why else would they leak this info. Bargaining tactic.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we leaked to Buster about Indian interest to let other teams know if they want Luc they should act sooner than later. Get a bidding war started if possible.

[FVBrewerFan]

I say this with only wild speculation, but I get the feeling Stearns covets Joey Gallo.

 

I remember previously that is what the Brewers were looking for from Texas.

 

And here I thought Gallo was exactly the type of player we wanted to avoid rebuilding around. Chicks dig the long ball, I'll take obp and athleticism.

[Boomer5]

I agree. If a guy like Gallo is our type of player why did we pretty much give away Davis?

[FVBrewerFan]

Heyman source says Indians rumor is overblown

 

http://www.todaysknuckleball.com/inside-baseball-with-jon-heyman/heyman-welcome-worst-starting-pitcher-market-ever/

 

This means Lucroy is their priority. So obvious that his source is in the Indians organization, so why else would they leak this info. Bargaining tactic.

 

The moment the Braves were suggested is the moment I tuned out the insider experts. We're hearing nothing about Boston, Dodgers, etc which tells me it will be someone like that. We'll make a deal with the tribe for Smith or Jeffress though.

[pacopete4]

I agree. If a guy like Gallo is our type of player why did we pretty much give away Davis?

 

 

Because Davis is no good.

[SRB]

People don't want a guy who has a very good chance of being Adam Dunn at 3B? Suit yourselves, I would love Gallo. Not everybody needs to be a five-tool player.

[StearnsFTW]

I agree. If a guy like Gallo is our type of player why did we pretty much give away Davis?

 

 

Because Davis is no good.

 

That and it may be a tad early to say we gave him away.

 

I've said many times how badly Gallo scares me. Hope he's not the big piece.

[Boomer5]

I agree. If a guy like Gallo is our type of player why did we pretty much give away Davis?

 

 

Because Davis is no good.

 

Davis is an elite home run hitter. Gallo may or may not be an elite HR hitter.

 

If we are building around plus plus power Davis fit that role. I'm not arguing trading away Davis, though we didn't get much for him, but he is already the player Gallo only projects to be.

 

The point is Gallo doesn't fit the profile of the veristle obp only guys Stearns has looked at so far.

 

It is also a red flag he wasn't the first choice to replace Prince.

[reillymcshane]

Joey Gallo has hit 143 HR in 1602 ABs in the minors - and he's still only 22. Those are extraordinary numbers.

 

Khris Davis hit 69 HRs at roughly 1/2 that pace - and from ages of 21-25. There is no comparison between him and Gallo.

 

Gallo has a power tool is the best in the minor leagues. That's something that makes him special. I realize there's a big concern about Gallo's hit tool - a concern that may negate his impressive power. But if he is part of a return for Lucroy, I'm okay with that. Power like that is very, very rare. I'll take the risk that it develops. If it does, you have someone really special.

[MilwaukeeBeers]

I say this with only wild speculation, but I get the feeling Stearns covets Joey Gallo.

 

I remember previously that is what the Brewers were looking for from Texas.

 

And here I thought Gallo was exactly the type of player we wanted to avoid rebuilding around. Chicks dig the long ball, I'll take obp and athleticism.

He really is a remarkable player. Excellent OBP with only with only a career .257 avg. Couple that with elite power, and he might just be too unique to pass up.

[Raw Biz]

I was a huge Gallo fan during the draft and badly wanted to draft him. However, he's not the type of guy I would like to target in a trade. I don't know if that makes any sense but he's just too much of a risk to trade for. I know all prospects have some risk but I think there's potentially better players out there with a bit less risk. With Lucroy, I'm looking for impact pitching as the centerpiece.

[RockCoCougars]

Gallo screams Russell Branyan to me. No doubt he will hit a lot of homers, but too many holes in his bat to be a true impact player.

[HighHeat19]

The pitching is too good by the time you get to the playoffs. And it's the whole reason the Gallo types don't win world series.

[NYChez]

With a trade seemingly imminent, let's appreciate the final games for the greatest catcher in Brewer history.

[DougJonesChangeUp]

I'd be pumped to get Gallo. Our Anthony Rizzo.

[logan82]

With a trade seemingly imminent, let's appreciate the final games for the greatest catcher in Brewer history.

Ted Simmons?

[trwi7]

Ted Simmons?

 

I'm too young to have seen him play but what is the big deal with him? Unless he was like the best defensive catcher ever, he wasn't better than Lucroy.

[beekay414]

The point is Gallo doesn't fit the profile of the veristle obp only guys Stearns has looked at so far.

 

Joey Gallo routinely has an OBP around 100 points higher than his batting averages and is known as a 3 true outcome type (HR, BB or K) so I wouldn't say he's not an OBP guy.

[Outlander]

Ted Simmons?

 

I'm too young to have seen him play but what is the big deal with him? Unless he was like the best defensive catcher ever, he wasn't better than Lucroy.

Definitely wasn't the best by the time he got to the Brewers, seemed to play DH a lot from what I remember when I was young. He was okay with the Brewets, certainly no Lucroy.

[endaround]

Ted Simmons?

 

I'm too young to have seen him play but what is the big deal with him? Unless he was like the best defensive catcher ever, he wasn't better than Lucroy.

 

As a Brewer, no. As a player over his career, it isn't close. Simmons should be a HOFer.

[MKE81]

Gallo's ceiling is that of Davis? Oh, that's rich. Gallo has destroyed the minor leagues in terms of power. At 21 last year if he received 550 AB he had the pace of 30HR. Give Davis 550 AB this year he's on pace for 38HR. He's 6yrs older too AND he can't play in the NL because he's a massive black hole in the field. Which is why he's spending more and more time at DH (not because the As need to get Crisp, etc in the lineup).

 

Gallo is an interesting player no doubt but having a 5 hitter that could be 250/350 with 40HR+ who actually plays the field you will take all day every day, especially when the rest of the team are high OBP, toolsy players with power/speed/strong defense.

[StearnsFTW]

Ted Simmons?

 

I'm too young to have seen him play but what is the big deal with him? Unless he was like the best defensive catcher ever, he wasn't better than Lucroy.

 

As a Brewer, no. As a player over his career, it isn't close. Simmons should be a HOFer.

 

This right here. I'm trying to think of a comp for him in the recent past and I'm coming up dry. Very good-hitting switch-hitting catchers who play good defense are tough to come by.

 

Plus he could smoke a pack of heaters every game.

 

Edit: I honestly was thinking Lucroy as a comp and it's not a terrible one. Simmons was better, but only because Luc hasn't finished his career yet. Ted's prime was very very good.

[Boomer5]

Gallo isn't even the guy the Rangers are turning to to replace Prince. You folks might want him but the Rangers who are in the middle of a pennant race do not.

 

Davis has the most HRs in the majors since last August. He is a far superior MLB HR hitter to Gallo, and even the Rangers agree.

 

If we are a team that would want a Gallo as a centerpiece of a Luc trade, than surely we would have kept a Davis. We don't and we didn't.

[IndyCrew]

They may not be going to Gallo to replace Prince because he is about to get traded.

 

I wouldn't turn my nose up at Gallo, but I'd be more excited about getting Allard or Aiken.

 

Since it's Friday and I want to put off writing my grant, here are the teams I'd like to be dealing with:

 

ATL: My dream spot for Lucroy to land. Allard is the prize for me, but they are deep in prospects that I love.

Starting Offer: Allard, Riley, Herbert, Inciarte (To be flipped next year)

 

Cle: This is more than they'd give, but I'd start here.

Starting Offer: Zimmer, Aiken, Mejia, Mckenzie, Kaminski

 

LAD:

Starting Offer: Holmes, Bellinger, Barnes, Stewart

 

Tex: A lot depends on the value of Gallo.

Starting Offer: Gallo, Taveras, Jurado, Matuella

 

Bos:

Starting offer: Benintendi and 2 lottery arms or Kopech, Devers, Chavis

 

CHC: Not my favorite spot to trade Lucroy, but they have talent on the farm

Starting offer: Contreras, Happ, Cease, Mckinney