The 2017 MLB Draft Thread (#9 Pick + #34 & #46)

[82brewcrew82]

Final Mock from Scout and Tyler Blake Ward.

 

http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story/1784270-2017-mlb-draft-mock-draft-3

 

9. Milwaukee Brewers - Jo Adell, OF, Ballard HS (KY).

I am going with the information out there, even though this pick is odd to me. First off, it would be a team drafting an outfielder for the third straight year and second, Adell is about as different as one can get from Ray and Clark. I understand the logic, as no one outside of Greene has a higher ceiling in this class.

 

34. Milwaukee Brewers - Luis Campusano, C, Cross Creek HS (GA)

The Brewers have a ton of talent in their minors. They nearly had the best catching prospect in baseball, but Jonathan Lucroy vetoed that trade. So here they can grab the top catcher in the class, who would instantly become their top catching prospect by far.

 

46. Milwaukee Brewers - Seth Romero, LHP, Houston

Brewers rolled the dice on Lucas Erceg last year, after his problems and being kicked off his team. They have three picks in the top 50 and can roll the dice on Romero who, without the character issues, would have been a top ten player.

 

 

That would be a pretty amazing haul right there.

[MVP2110]

Final Mock from Scout and Tyler Blake Ward.

 

http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story/1784270-2017-mlb-draft-mock-draft-3

 

9. Milwaukee Brewers - Jo Adell, OF, Ballard HS (KY).

I am going with the information out there, even though this pick is odd to me. First off, it would be a team drafting an outfielder for the third straight year and second, Adell is about as different as one can get from Ray and Clark. I understand the logic, as no one outside of Greene has a higher ceiling in this class.

 

34. Milwaukee Brewers - Luis Campusano, C, Cross Creek HS (GA)

The Brewers have a ton of talent in their minors. They nearly had the best catching prospect in baseball, but Jonathan Lucroy vetoed that trade. So here they can grab the top catcher in the class, who would instantly become their top catching prospect by far.

 

46. Milwaukee Brewers - Seth Romero, LHP, Houston

Brewers rolled the dice on Lucas Erceg last year, after his problems and being kicked off his team. They have three picks in the top 50 and can roll the dice on Romero who, without the character issues, would have been a top ten player.

 

 

This sounds perfect.

[Harry Doyles JD]

Final Mock from Scout and Tyler Blake Ward.

 

http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story/1784270-2017-mlb-draft-mock-draft-3

 

9. Milwaukee Brewers - Jo Adell, OF, Ballard HS (KY).

I am going with the information out there, even though this pick is odd to me. First off, it would be a team drafting an outfielder for the third straight year and second, Adell is about as different as one can get from Ray and Clark. I understand the logic, as no one outside of Greene has a higher ceiling in this class.

 

34. Milwaukee Brewers - Luis Campusano, C, Cross Creek HS (GA)

The Brewers have a ton of talent in their minors. They nearly had the best catching prospect in baseball, but Jonathan Lucroy vetoed that trade. So here they can grab the top catcher in the class, who would instantly become their top catching prospect by far.

 

46. Milwaukee Brewers - Seth Romero, LHP, Houston

Brewers rolled the dice on Lucas Erceg last year, after his problems and being kicked off his team. They have three picks in the top 50 and can roll the dice on Romero who, without the character issues, would have been a top ten player.

 

Did anyone double-check that this isn't Lou Palmisano trying to get back into the draft? Where is his birth certificate?!?

[CheezWizHed]

The Brewers don't need depth. They need talent. If they pass on superior talent to save money for later rounds I'll be furious.

 

For me it really depends on what's available. The 9th best talent is not necessarily the same type of talent from draft to draft. It looks like this one, outside of the top handful, there is a decent drop off. In that case, If I can get payer A with B+ level talent, payer B with C+ talent and palyer C with C level talent or I can get players D, E and F with B- level talent, I might go with the second option there.

 

Or if their first pick options are 5 different A- players and they chose the lowest ranked and that allows them to snag a B+ player (Beck) in the normal range of B/B- area, why not?

[Austin Tatious]

Final Mock from Scout and Tyler Blake Ward.

 

http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story/1784270-2017-mlb-draft-mock-draft-3

 

9. Milwaukee Brewers - Jo Adell, OF, Ballard HS (KY).

I am going with the information out there, even though this pick is odd to me. First off, it would be a team drafting an outfielder for the third straight year and second, Adell is about as different as one can get from Ray and Clark. I understand the logic, as no one outside of Greene has a higher ceiling in this class.

 

34. Milwaukee Brewers - Luis Campusano, C, Cross Creek HS (GA)

The Brewers have a ton of talent in their minors. They nearly had the best catching prospect in baseball, but Jonathan Lucroy vetoed that trade. So here they can grab the top catcher in the class, who would instantly become their top catching prospect by far.

 

46. Milwaukee Brewers - Seth Romero, LHP, Houston

Brewers rolled the dice on Lucas Erceg last year, after his problems and being kicked off his team. They have three picks in the top 50 and can roll the dice on Romero who, without the character issues, would have been a top ten player.

 

Did anyone double-check that this isn't Lou Palmisano tyring to get back into the draft? Where is his birth certificate?!?

 

LOL I connected those names too. Funny. I guess we are both Brewer nerds.

[Austin Tatious]

Final Mock from Scout and Tyler Blake Ward.

 

http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story/1784270-2017-mlb-draft-mock-draft-3

 

9. Milwaukee Brewers - Jo Adell, OF, Ballard HS (KY).

I am going with the information out there, even though this pick is odd to me. First off, it would be a team drafting an outfielder for the third straight year and second, Adell is about as different as one can get from Ray and Clark. I understand the logic, as no one outside of Greene has a higher ceiling in this class.

 

34. Milwaukee Brewers - Luis Campusano, C, Cross Creek HS (GA)

The Brewers have a ton of talent in their minors. They nearly had the best catching prospect in baseball, but Jonathan Lucroy vetoed that trade. So here they can grab the top catcher in the class, who would instantly become their top catching prospect by far.

 

46. Milwaukee Brewers - Seth Romero, LHP, Houston

Brewers rolled the dice on Lucas Erceg last year, after his problems and being kicked off his team. They have three picks in the top 50 and can roll the dice on Romero who, without the character issues, would have been a top ten player.

 

 

That would be a pretty amazing haul right there.

 

I agree, that would be impressive. It shows the type of potential haul we can have with our three picks. Personally, I am hoping for Baz at nine, but as I have said several times, I have never seen him connected to the Brewers. And, often, the names that get leaked out tend to be true. The Journal Sentinel all but announced that the Brewers were taking Kodi Medeiros a day or two before the 2014 draft.

 

I would not mind a combo of a high school pitcher and a college pitcher, maybe one lefty and one righty but the key is going BPA, and a position player in the first three picks. So, you could do combinations like Trevor Rogers and Tristan Beck or DL Hall and Beck, or Baz and Romero, as far as pitchers.

 

If you came out with Abell, Campusano, and Romero, that would be great, or tweak it to Abell, Tristan Beck and Romero, and I would be even happier. Lots of combinations work this year.

[paul253]

For me it really depends on what's available. The 9th best talent is not necessarily the same type of talent from draft to draft

 

I hear you. But the 9th best talent is still going to be better than he 20th best talent or whoever you take. I realize if you go 9 and pay him slot then you can't necessarily reach higher with 34. But honestly with the depth we have in our system I'd rather go 9 and 34 then, say, 20 and 22. I think we need the elite type player and while I realize anyone could turn into the elite type player I think the odds are more likely that the more talented guy will.

 

As far as our pick goes I am convinced we are taking Adell but I still have hopes for either Baz, Faedo or Bukauskas.

[Oxy]

The Brewers don't need depth. They need talent. If they pass on superior talent to save money for later rounds I'll be furious.

 

If I understand the scouting system correctly (ha!), a later round pick doesn't necessarily mean lesser talent. It might be a HS player who is physically immature and is set up well to go to a quality baseball school and so won't sign for anything less than a certain slot number. If he matures, he very may well be a top 10 talent. If the top of the draft is relatively weak, it makes perfect sense to go underslot-- not because they are passing on superior talent-- but TO ACTUALLY SIGN superior talent from the later rounds.

[82brewcrew82]

For me it really depends on what's available. The 9th best talent is not necessarily the same type of talent from draft to draft

 

I hear you. But the 9th best talent is still going to be better than he 20th best talent or whoever you take. I realize if you go 9 and pay him slot then you can't necessarily reach higher with 34. But honestly with the depth we have in our system I'd rather go 9 and 34 then, say, 20 and 22. I think we need the elite type player and while I realize anyone could turn into the elite type player I think the odds are more likely that the more talented guy will.

 

As far as our pick goes I am convinced we are taking Adell but I still have hopes for either Baz, Faedo or Bukauskas.

 

As Oxy pointed out in the subsequent post, this is not necessarily true. IIRC, both Gatewood and Harrison were considered to have higher ceiings than Medeiros. I don't really care how much depth the Brewers are perceived to have, they are going to need more.

[Harry Doyles JD]

For me it really depends on what's available. The 9th best talent is not necessarily the same type of talent from draft to draft

 

I hear you. But the 9th best talent is still going to be better than he 20th best talent or whoever you take. I realize if you go 9 and pay him slot then you can't necessarily reach higher with 34. But honestly with the depth we have in our system I'd rather go 9 and 34 then, say, 20 and 22. I think we need the elite type player and while I realize anyone could turn into the elite type player I think the odds are more likely that the more talented guy will.

 

As far as our pick goes I am convinced we are taking Adell but I still have hopes for either Baz, Faedo or Bukauskas.

 

As Oxy pointed out in the subsequent post, this is not necessarily true. IIRC, both Gatewood and Harrison were considered to have higher ceiings than Medeiros. I don't really care how much depth the Brewers are perceived to have, they are going to need more.

 

Completely agree with this. There is no such thing as "enough depth." The Brewers cannot afford to ever have another bankrupt farm system. Best way to ensure that is to stuff as much talent into it as possible, quantity as well as quality.

[paul253]

As Oxy pointed out in the subsequent post, this is not necessarily true. IIRC, both Gatewood and Harrison were considered to have higher ceiings than Medeiros

 

But Medeiros wasn't the 12th best talent in that draft. There were better players available when they picked him. So to explain my stance with that draft I hope they avoid drafting Medeiros and instead draft whoever the best player left on the board was.

 

if I understand the scouting system correctly (ha!), a later round pick doesn't necessarily mean lesser talent

 

I understand that it not necessarily true. It depends on your strategy. If your strategy is to pick to the best available talent, which is what I'm advocating, it should be true though. What I hope to avoid seeing is them selecting lesser talent in the first round. I think they need the best player they can get. In other words I'd rather see an A, a B, and a C then a B+ and two Bs. Hopefully that makes sense.

[paul253]

Best way to ensure that is to stuff as much talent into it as possible, quantity as well as quality

 

I agree but its hard to draft both quality and quantity at the same time. . Right now I'd argue our system is more quantity. Don't get me wrong we have a lot of good prospects. We just don't have very many really good ones. You only get so many chances to get a really good prospect. Top ten picks are one way. I don't want to see more depth at the expense of a higher quality player.

[colbyjack]

Two points:

 

Most mocks had the Brewers taking Delvin Perez last year leading up to the draft. I don't think all of these different people have individual knowledge that's what they're going to do, rather, they're "piggy-backing" this information and it has steamrolled. I'm not saying it won't be Adell, but recent history has told us to be wary of this info.

 

My money is on Heliot Ramos at #34. Book it.

[82brewcrew82]

I don't know if you know something or not but if that is the case then no way do the go OF at 9.

[A Swing and A Drive]

The age-old draft question: Take a safer pick closer to the Majors with a limited ceiling or take a riskier pick further from the Majors with a high ceiling?

 

The answer is probably some of both types spread between their top picks. However, the Brewers need franchise type players in their system still, so I have no problem gambling on a player like Jordan Adell, despite drafting Ray and Clark the last two seasons. This guy could flame out or he could be Justin Upton. That's a gamble teams picking at #9 every year don't even get to make. Austin Beck also has a similar talent ceiling IMO.

 

With that being said, the Brewers have had a MAJOR issue drafting starting pitchers that contribute at the big league level for the last 20+ years. If a pitcher like JB Bukauskas is there you have to consider him if you are the Brewers. Nothing is truly safe, but he certainly profiles as a mid-rotation starter, with a ceiling of a #2. To me that's a talent somewhere between Yovani Gallardo and Sonny Gray. Sign me up.

[ZBTMP]

Two points:

 

Most mocks had the Brewers taking Delvin Perez last year leading up to the draft. I don't think all of these different people have individual knowledge that's what they're going to do, rather, they're "piggy-backing" this information and it has steamrolled. I'm not saying it won't be Adell, but recent history has told us to be wary of this info.

 

My money is on Heliot Ramos at #34. Book it.

 

And minutes before the selection, there was heavy AJ Puk rumors

I don’t put a ton of stock in mock drafts outside of a barometer of where the talent might go. You can’t hide scouting presence but I’d hope Stearns, Arnold and Montgomery have made trips to see all the top players at some point his spring. Teams have heavy incentives to not leak or let players know how their evaluations compare to the peers. If a player/advisor knows he is top on a team’s board, they are going to float a higher bonus number than if they think they are bidding to be the selection amongst comparable peers.

[ZBTMP]

With that being said, the Brewers have had a MAJOR issue drafting starting pitchers that contribute at the big league level for the last 20+ years. If a pitcher like JB Bukauskas is there you have to consider him if you are the Brewers. Nothing is truly safe, but he certainly profiles as a mid-rotation starter, with a ceiling of a #2. To me that's a talent somewhere between Yovani Gallardo and Sonny Gray. Sign me up.

Id say there is more swing and miss stuff than either of those player. Gallardo was always projected as a starter though most had him behind Hughes and Garza in rankings because of less velocity on his fastball. You could put the Mccullers comparison on him as many closer tags were put on him as a prospect, but Mccullers has 2” on him. Still I think his stuff is good enough he can be a TOR pitcher though a volatile one at least for a few seasons.

[A Swing and A Drive]

Yeah the lack of height on a Starting Pitcher doesn't bother me as much as it does most scouts. In fact, I trust pitchers under 6'0 feet more than over 6'6.

 

JB Bukausas' slider is probably the best pitch of any pitcher in the draft (besides Hunter Greene's fastball I suppose). I agree with your Lance McCullers comp on him and also think he sticks as a starter.

[wildcat2237]

Back in 2011 I watched video and read reports on Sonny Gray. I decided that if he was available and the Brewers didn't take him I would be livid.

 

Back in 2012 I watched video and read reports on Joey Gallo. I decided that if he was available and the Brewers didn't take him I would be livid.

 

This is how I feel about J.B. Bukauskas, this year. He is a major leaguer. He could pitch in the pen now. If he is available and the Brewers don't take him I will smash my head against the monitor. Yes, Bukauskas is 6' 0". However, when I watch him I see Tim Hudson, who was 6' 1". Moreover, Gray is only 5' 10". Bukauskas has a ceiling as a #1 or #2 starter and a floor as a 7th or 8th inning reliever.

 

In accordance my draft preference is as follow:

 

1. J.B. Bukauskas, if available.

 

2. Hunter Greene, RHP, Notre Dame HS (Sherman Oaks, Calif.), if available

 

3. Trevor Rogers, LHP, Carlsbad (N.M.) HS, if available.

 

4. Royce Lewis, SS/OF, JSerra Catholic HS (San Juan Capistrano, Calif.), if available.

 

5. Jo Adell, OF, Ballard HS (Louisville, Ky.), if available.

[wildcat2237]

Yeah the lack of height on a Starting Pitcher doesn't bother me as much as it does most scouts. In fact, I trust pitchers under 6'0 feet more than over 6'6.

 

JB Bukausas' slider is probably the best pitch of any pitcher in the draft (besides Hunter Greene's fastball I suppose). I agree with your Lance McCullers comp on him and also think he sticks as a starter.

 

Bukausas has a MLB fastball and slider. If he developes a change he has a chance to be a TOT starter. if he doesn't he is a nasty reliever.

[A Swing and A Drive]

Back in 2011 I watched video and read reports on Sonny Gray. I decided that if he was available and the Brewers didn't take him I would be livid.

 

Back in 2012 I watched video and read reports on Joey Gallo. I decided that if he was available and the Brewers didn't take him I would be livid.

 

This is how I feel about J.B. Bukauskas, this year. He is a major leaguer. He could pitch in the pen now. If he is available and the Brewers don't take him I will smash my head against the monitor. Yes, Bukauskas is 6' 0". However, when I watch him I see Tim Hudson, who was 6' 1". Moreover, Gray is only 5' 10". Bukauskas has a ceiling as a #1 or #2 starter and a floor as a 7th or 8th inning reliever.

 

In accordance my draft preference is as follow:

 

1. J.B. Bukauskas, if available.

 

2. Hunter Greene, RHP, Notre Dame HS (Sherman Oaks, Calif.), if available

 

3. Trevor Rogers, LHP, Carlsbad (N.M.) HS, if available.

 

4. Royce Lewis, SS/OF, JSerra Catholic HS (San Juan Capistrano, Calif.), if available.

 

5. Jo Adell, OF, Ballard HS (Louisville, Ky.), if available.

 

Wow, Gray and Gallo are the same two players I was infatuated with during those past drafts. And yes, I did smash things when the Brewers pasted on both players multiple times.(Gray twice- Jungmann and Bradley. Gallo thrice-Coulter, Roache, Haniger)

 

And like yourself, I'm hung up on Bukauskas being a great pick for the Brewers. (although I'll admit that I'd gamble on Hunter Greene over him but that point will be moot)

 

I would also be happy with an underslot deal with LHP high schooler Trevor Rogers if JB is not available.

[wildcat2237]

Double Post

[narwhalattack]

Back in 2011 I watched video and read reports on Sonny Gray. I decided that if he was available and the Brewers didn't take him I would be livid.

 

Back in 2012 I watched video and read reports on Joey Gallo. I decided that if he was available and the Brewers didn't take him I would be livid.

 

This is how I feel about J.B. Bukauskas, this year. He is a major leaguer. He could pitch in the pen now. If he is available and the Brewers don't take him I will smash my head against the monitor. Yes, Bukauskas is 6' 0". However, when I watch him I see Tim Hudson, who was 6' 1". Moreover, Gray is only 5' 10". Bukauskas has a ceiling as a #1 or #2 starter and a floor as a 7th or 8th inning reliever.

 

In accordance my draft preference is as follow:

 

1. J.B. Bukauskas, if available.

 

2. Hunter Greene, RHP, Notre Dame HS (Sherman Oaks, Calif.), if available

 

3. Trevor Rogers, LHP, Carlsbad (N.M.) HS, if available.

 

4. Royce Lewis, SS/OF, JSerra Catholic HS (San Juan Capistrano, Calif.), if available.

 

5. Jo Adell, OF, Ballard HS (Louisville, Ky.), if available.

 

I'm going to keep my expectations... neutral at best. I don't think I remember a year in which the Brewers selected a guy most of us were excited about, at least during the time I was here.

[wildcat2237]

Rogers reminds me of Bumgarner.

 

Very advanced high school arm. I would be very okay with an under-slot deal if Greene and Buskauskas are gone.

[MilwaukeeBeers]

Two points:

 

Most mocks had the Brewers taking Delvin Perez last year leading up to the draft. I don't think all of these different people have individual knowledge that's what they're going to do, rather, they're "piggy-backing" this information and it has steamrolled. I'm not saying it won't be Adell, but recent history has told us to be wary of this info.

 

My money is on Heliot Ramos at #34. Book it.

If he's there I 100% agree. Anyone heard anything lately about Tristan Beck?