2016-05-15 Padres (Vargas) at Brewers (Davies), 1:10 PM CDT [Brewers win, 3-2]

[stoutdude04]

Calling it a "bogus ruling" would indicate that the scorer made an error. One can complain about the scoring rule, but I can't see how one can complain about the scorer's decision.

 

You're right. I was typing on my phone and didnt have a chance to make my stance clear. I'm not complaining about the scorers decision. I am complaining about plays like that not being considered errors.

[stoutdude04]

Haven't seen it yet but he didn't touch it right? That's not a bogus ruling, it's the correct ruling.

 

I know it's correct, but I still think it's bogus. He missed it. To me, that's an error.

 

 

He didn't miss it. He couldn't see it. Big difference.

 

While I dont disagree, I still think it should be an error. He appeared to jog slowly to the spot. Maybe he didn't see it right away, or even at all. However, he did nothing to try to combat the sun either. Try running to the spot and put your hat/glove up. I'm also pretty sure he had no sunglasses on...could that have made the difference? I am not sure. In my opinion it should be an error.

[1992casey]

Craig Counsell said that most parks have spots like that where the lights come into play. He specifically stated that Miller Park has a spot like that in both left and right field.

 

I guess the lighting would part of the home field advantage. Giving Domingo the benefit of the doubt, it's possible that he hasn't been here long enough to experience that situation yet. It's a day game with the roof closed, the lights on, and sun shining through the windows.

 

His approach probably could have been better, but I think the approach would have been fine had the lights not come into play. What I think happened is that he tracked the ball adequately, lost it for a split second, then concluded that it was going to hit him in the face or the head. Possibly an option would have been to plan to field it as a single all along and avoid the extra base situation. But not being the right fielder, it's tough for me to say.

 

As far as the scoring, the bottom line for me is that the hitter got two bases. Whether it's via a 2 base error, a single and an error, or a double doesn't change the game situation.

[adambr2]

I'd be in favor of a scoring category called 'Other Error' or 'Uncategorized Error' that covered situations such as a player losing the ball in the lights, two fielders stopping and letting a ball bounce between them, or any situation where a physical error was not comitted but a batter reached base on something that should have been an out.

 

This would be an error charged to the team but not an individual player. It would avoid penalizing a pitcher for something that should have been an out.

[FVBrewerFan]

Similar to a routine DP grounder getting messed up and only getting one out. Not an error, because you still recorded an out, but really should have been two. Maybe it would make sense to have a "team error" in that case. I just don't like that the pitcher could give up earned runs as a result of these type of plays.

[1992casey]

Pitchers definitely lose out when an error can't be scored. On the other hand, when an inning continues after it should have been over, they can totally melt down and be completely excused. I think the bottom line in this case is that ERA isn't a perfect stat and attempted fixes won't make it better.