Braun trade value now

[FVBrewerFan]

I wish there was a way to snag Julio Urias from LA for Braun but it might be too late in the process as Urias might be up in the next couple of months. LA needs help offensively and is on Braun's places he would be okay with going.

 

You know, Angels should really think about that before they just dismiss it. Braun and Jeffress for Urias? Heck, throw in Anderson or Davies.

[pacopete4]

I wish there was a way to snag Julio Urias from LA for Braun but it might be too late in the process as Urias might be up in the next couple of months. LA needs help offensively and is on Braun's places he would be okay with going.

 

You know, AngelsDodgers should really think about that before they just dismiss it. Braun and Jeffress for Urias? Heck, throw in Anderson or Davies.

[FVBrewerFan]

Thank you! Had Angels on my mind for some reason. Jungmann is probably better than any prospect they have ; )

[adambr2]

I also thought a trade involving Braun with Washington with us taking back Werth and getting a very nice return in exchange, made a lot of sense.

 

But Werth has a full NTC and I doubt he'd waive it to come to Milwaukee and rebuild.

[Boomer5]

Well now the Cubs have to trade for him. Some guy just bet his life savings, $200k, on the Cubs to win the WS. They are 3-1.

 

It's the right thing to do.

[MrTPlush]

Trea Turner straight up for Braun is an overpay. I wouldn't put money on that ever happening.

[Madhawk23]

Good call on the Werth no-trade-clause. Yeah, no way he approves a trade to a rebuilding Brewers team. Well, I guess that throws a major wrench in my "we'll take Werth off your hands" to get a better prospect return idea.

[MrTPlush]

We don't really need Werth. Just pay them the money equivalent. Not a huge deal we don't get to pray for a turnaround next year.

[JohnBriggs12]

I definitely think a trade with the Cubs could work, but I don't think Schwarber is the best target. By the time he plays for the Brewers, he could only have four years of service time remaining. Adding that to question marks about his injury (he'll probably be fine long term, I admit) and the fact that he can really only play first base, and that really lowers his value for a rebuilding team like the Brewers.

 

I get your points but would only agree if it was a straight up trade. Him as the #1 guy combined with some lower level in the minors guys and you're onto something. MKE also does have a glaring need at 1B so to us that's not an issue.

 

I honestly think if healthy, Schwarber is the potentially the best bat the Cubs have, better than either Rizzo or Bryant. He'd likely be more productive from 2018-21 than would Braun, and could bring a tremendous return if traded a year before he hits FA. It's also possible he'll be back in time to contribute in 2017, or that the Brewers could lock him up longer. Two big questions are: can he play 1B? Gamel was hurt playing there remember too. Second is will he fully recover to the point it won't affect him.

 

I'd hate seeing the all time Brewer leader in many hitting categories being a major piece of Cub championships though. Going to be tough enough for Brewer fans the next few years with Cub fans taking over Miller Park. I certainly wouldn't want some guy in A ball as the centerpiece. I'd want one of their core.

[FVBrewerFan]

Well now the Cubs have to trade for him. Some guy just bet his life savings, $200k, on the Cubs to win the WS. They are 3-1.

 

It's the right thing to do.

 

That story is a hoax...

[brewcrewdue80]

Urias/Giolito for all the ML pieces either team would want from the Brewers and both Wash/Dodgers hang up the phone. The reason neither are up yet is because Innings limit/Super 2 status. Neither are on track to pitch over 130innings. So while both clubs can afford Super 2 it's lame to waste money on what won't be 100 innings for the 1st season.

[StearnsFTW]

I definitely think a trade with the Cubs could work, but I don't think Schwarber is the best target. By the time he plays for the Brewers, he could only have four years of service time remaining. Adding that to question marks about his injury (he'll probably be fine long term, I admit) and the fact that he can really only play first base, and that really lowers his value for a rebuilding team like the Brewers.

 

I get your points but would only agree if it was a straight up trade. Him as the #1 guy combined with some lower level in the minors guys and you're onto something. MKE also does have a glaring need at 1B so to us that's not an issue.

 

I honestly think if healthy, Schwarber is the potentially the best bat the Cubs have, better than either Rizzo or Bryant. He'd likely be more productive from 2018-21 than would Braun, and could bring a tremendous return if traded a year before he hits FA. It's also possible he'll be back in time to contribute in 2017, or that the Brewers could lock him up longer. Two big questions are: can he play 1B? Gamel was hurt playing there remember too. Second is will he fully recover to the point it won't affect him.

 

I'd hate seeing the all time Brewer leader in many hitting categories being a major piece of Cub championships though. Going to be tough enough for Brewer fans the next few years with Cub fans taking over Miller Park. I certainly wouldn't want some guy in A ball as the centerpiece. I'd want one of their core.

 

If Schwarber is ever even close to as good as Rizzo has been the last 2+ years, I'll be amazed. Rizzo is a fantastic player. And I think Bryant will be a monster.

 

I'm not really a huge Schwarber fan either. Can't hide him anywhere. He's a DH.

[Boomer5]

Well now the Cubs have to trade for him. Some guy just bet his life savings, $200k, on the Cubs to win the WS. They are 3-1.

 

It's the right thing to do.

 

That story is a hoax...

 

Well it was on the internet so how is that possible?

[And That]

Very good point by Buster Olney, as paraphrased by MLBTR.

 

The 32-year-old will gain 10-and-5 rights early next season, allowing him to veto any trade.

Also FWIW:

 

An executive from another club opined that the Brewers will still have to eat a considerable amount of Braun’s salary to facilitate a deal

[adambr2]

Very good point by Buster Olney, as paraphrased by MLBTR.

 

The 32-year-old will gain 10-and-5 rights early next season, allowing him to veto any trade.

Also FWIW:

 

An executive from another club opined that the Brewers will still have to eat a considerable amount of Braun’s salary to facilitate a deal

 

Eating some, not a majority of his salary is not a problem, but it's going to take, and should take, a significant return to make that happen.

 

There seems to be at least some public perception, mostly because of his past PED history and the Brewers' rebuilding state, that they are willing to eat half Braun's salary and just give him up for a couple low level 'B' prospects just to be rid of him.

 

That won't happen and Stearns is too smart to let that happen. If that's truly the trade market for a healthy and productive Braun, there's no purpose of trading him.

[MrTPlush]

The 32-year-old will gain 10-and-5 rights early next season, allowing him to veto any trade.

 

Really quite meaningless in the grand scheme of things. He already has a virtual no trade clause seeing the six teams he can't block a trade to don't make a whole lot of sense. Well maybe the Angels, but they don't have anything to trade for him.

[FVBrewerFan]

Eating some, not a majority of his salary is not a problem, but it's going to take, and should take, a significant return to make that happen.

 

There seems to be at least some public perception, mostly because of his past PED history and the Brewers' rebuilding state, that they are willing to eat half Braun's salary and just give him up for a couple low level 'B' prospects just to be rid of him.

 

That won't happen and Stearns is too smart to let that happen. If that's truly the trade market for a healthy and productive Braun, there's no purpose of trading him.

 

Exactly right. It goes beyond the Braun trade too, this applies to Lucroy, Jeffress, or anyone else. As a new GM, it's important all the other teams see Stearns is not a push-over. You want teams to think of the Brewers as a team they can deal with, as long as you start with a reasonably fair offer. First thing other GMs should think about the Brewers: Anyone is for sale right now, but come to table with a realistic offer.

[adambr2]

The 32-year-old will gain 10-and-5 rights early next season, allowing him to veto any trade.

 

Really quite meaningless in the grand scheme of things. He already has a virtual no trade clause seeing the six teams he can't block a trade to don't make a whole lot of sense. Well maybe the Angels, but they don't have anything to trade for him.

 

Looking at his NTC he can't block a trade to any NL West team besides the Rockies. The West is a total logjam right now with every team within 2.5 games. If it stays that competitive near the deadline, I wonder if that could work to our advantage.

 

One of these teams might see a Braun trade as one putting them over the top in their division.

[brewcrewdue80]

Very good point by Buster Olney, as paraphrased by MLBTR.

 

The 32-year-old will gain 10-and-5 rights early next season, allowing him to veto any trade.

Also FWIW:

 

An executive from another club opined that the Brewers will still have to eat a considerable amount of Braun’s salary to facilitate a deal

 

Likely an executive who's team is asking about Braun. Should Olney's executive he asks for opinion say, "Braun is a beast we could never give Milw enough in prospects."? Yeah great job, Mr Executive you've cost us more in prospects!!

 

Braun is 8th in MLB in OPS with over 75PAs. You drop his OPS 100pts it's still 24th and that isn't considering all these names 1-24 who are surprises themselves to be where they are at. He's an elite hitter not making more than 20million in a year. I'm seeing at least 23hitters making more than Braun. If he's posting top 30 batting stats where's the overpayment? 27hitters in 2017 currently. 26 in 2018 currently. Alex Gordon just received a higher avg contract than Braun's through 2020. Braun's season last year was better than any of Gordon's seasons in his career. The only FA to be this offseason that even remotely has a chance to compare to Braun is Jose Bautista who's older than Braun with a likely pricetag that's going to compete with Braun's contract maybe more.

I said earlier kick in the deferred amount. That's about 1year of his current obligation. But significant? Come on. 3million is about 10-15 1st rd draft slot value. Kick in 18mil? Better come with a 10-15 1st rd type of prospect alone. besides the value Braun brings.

[DHonks]

Adambr2, great insight. This is exactly what has been shocking for me. If someone wants Braun, bring out your big offers. The Brewers are in a great position budget-wise and have a potential MVP in Braun. They do not have to trade him by any means. But for some reason there's this perception that his contract is an albatross and that the Brewers are desperate to move on from him. Frankly, there's a good chance that he could be on the next Brewers contending team and putting up numbers that make his contract look fair or even a bargain. If a team wants him...come and get him. But have your BEST offers in hand.

[sfl2hnq17]

As others have stated, Adambr2, you are absolutely correct. People see Braun's contract as a hindrance but if (and yes it is a big if) keeps that average above .300 it is below market value. People seem to think that Braun is really old but he is only 2 years older than Cespedes and he was consider one of the bigger free agents this past off season and Braun has had a much longer track record of success in MLB.

[MillerParkSouth]

yeah, Braun's contract really isn't bad at all, especially considering it decreases in value as it ages. The Brewers shouldn't eat any of it to move him, only to increase the return. Part of me hopes he sticks around though.

[MrTPlush]

Braun commented on the trade speculation, but his statements were extremely generic. So generic that I don't really think they mean much. He states"I have no control over those things" when he actually does with a large no-trade list. Here is the article for those curious.

 

http://www.wtmj.com/sports/baseball/milwaukee-brewers/milwaukee-brewers-ryan-braun-addresses-trade-speculation

[DHonks]

To be honest, Braun has no control over things right now. Right now it's up for other teams to come up with an offer and express interest. Then the Brewers respond. Negotiations ensue. If necessary the Brewers discuss with Braun and his agent. If the team in on his no-trade list, then he finally will have control over things.

[billymac]

This certainly helps Braun's market, if Braun can stay healthy and off the disabled list

http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2016/5/20/11719972/josh-reddick-injury-athletics

 

National Fans were wanting Reddick as he would be cheaper than Braun

http://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=33857.275