Stripling pulled from game while throwing a no-hitter in his debut

[GAME05]

Ross Stripling, making his major league debut, was pulled from a no-hitter after 7 1/3. Right move? Would you have done that as the manager?

 

But a fun day of baseball. Brewers win on an illegal slide and then tune right to this game.

 

Here's why Dave Roberts was right to pull Ross Stripling from his no-hit bid

[GoToHelfaer]

Wow. Stripling pulled with a no-hitter after 7.1 with 100 pitches.

 

Edit: And Thatcher comes in and gives up a game tying home run to the next batter!

 

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[RockCoCougars]

Wow. Stripling pulled with a no-hitter after 7.1 with 100 pitches.

 

Edit: And Thatcher comes in and gives up a game tying home run to the next batter!

 

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What a d-bag move by Roberts. I hope that they lose this game.

[Ennder]

Wow. Stripling pulled with a no-hitter after 7.1 with 100 pitches.

 

Edit: And Thatcher comes in and gives up a game tying home run to the next batter!

 

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What a d-bag move by Roberts. I hope that they lose this game.

 

I disagree. Young pitcher, first start of the year had tommy john once already and has never thrown 100 pitches before. No way he is going to reasonably finish that game when he has 100 pitches and 5 outs to go. Roberts made an unpopular but pretty easy decision here.

[jerichoholicninja]

Wow. Stripling pulled with a no-hitter after 7.1 with 100 pitches.

 

Edit: And Thatcher comes in and gives up a game tying home run to the next batter!

 

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What a d-bag move by Roberts. I hope that they lose this game.

 

I disagree. Young pitcher, first start of the year had tommy john once already and has never thrown 100 pitches before. No way he is going to reasonably finish that game when he has 100 pitches and 5 outs to go. Roberts made an unpopular but pretty easy decision here.

 

Exactly. It was the smart move. If he actually completed the no hitter he's probably around 130 pitches. Johan Santana or Bud Smith come to mind?

[StearnsFTW]

The biggest factor for me is the health of the pitcher. I think it was the right decision for that reason. He'd never thrown 100 pitches, he was pretty obviously tired and he's coming off kinda recent TJ. The win is secondary, although relevant, to me.

[Ennder]

To me the only other possible choice would be to let him face one more guy and if he didn't get him to hit into a double play really early in the count pull him after that guy. Unless he throws a 1 or 2 pitch double play right there he wasn't going to finish the game.

[reillymcshane]

Stripling said it was the right move. He said he was gassed and he could see things were trending in a bad way. Kid even went and told Roberts the same thing.

[Funketown]

I'd have given him a chance to get out of the inning in 2-3 pitches, but even then, suppose he goes into the 9th and the first batter gets into a deep count before striking out; you still risk him getting up to ~120 pitches without even walking anybody.

[crossface21]

Stripling's dad sought out Roberts the next morning and thanked him for pulling his kid out of the game and protecting his future.

[502 to Right]

I'm tired of the pitch count police. Pitchers today throw fewer pitches than ever and still get injured at historic rates.

 

Pitchers should be removed from games when they are fatigued not when they reach some magical pitch count milestone.

[1992casey]

I think it's fair to say that Stripling was fatigued. And it's smart on his part to know that it wasn't prudent for him to continue. There are still pitchers who like to cover things like that up.

[Point Beer Is Best]

It was absolutely the right call, even with the benefit of hindsight. No-hitters are personal achievements and historical novelties. He was fatigued, so pulling him protected his long-term health, as well as gave them the best chance to win (despite the fact they lost the game).

[jerichoholicninja]

I'm tired of the pitch count police. Pitchers today throw fewer pitches than ever and still get injured at historic rates.

 

Pitchers should be removed from games when they are fatigued not when they reach some magical pitch count milestone.

 

He was fatigued. He told his manager so.

[DuWayne Steurer]

To pile on....... this was absolutely the right call. It's early in the season for one thing, and you're not 100% stretched out yet.

 

Secondly, it was going to take at least 15 - 20 pitches to finish the game, and that's if everything went right. 120 pitches+ is just not a smart way to start the year.

 

If this was a Cole Hamels or a Clayton Kershaw or a Madison Bumgarner, sure if they say they're good to go, you let them stay out there and finish it off.

 

I find myself wondering if some of these more analytic driven front offices and coaching staffs aren't (if they haven't already) working on more advanced systems of limiting pitcher stress. More than just pitch counts and innings pitched but something like the frequency of times a pitcher hits "high stress" pitches, or counting the number of time they go over "X" number of pitches, and assigning values to these things and just tracking it over the course of a season. Not saying it would make a difference in pitcher injuries, but I'd be curious if there's a team or team that's trying this sort of thing.

[logan82]

I am sure some of them track high stress innings. I have heard it in the past.

[1992casey]

I find myself wondering if some of these more analytic driven front offices and coaching staffs aren't (if they haven't already) working on more advanced systems of limiting pitcher stress. More than just pitch counts and innings pitched but something like the frequency of times a pitcher hits "high stress" pitches, or counting the number of time they go over "X" number of pitches, and assigning values to these things and just tracking it over the course of a season. Not saying it would make a difference in pitcher injuries, but I'd be curious if there's a team or team that's trying this sort of thing.

I don't know how sophisticated the analysis might be, but Roenicke talked about it, and Counsell's talked about it. Basically, if the pitcher's having an easy go of it, he can throw more pitches and more innings. If he's having a tougher time, he should be pulled earlier. Jungmann was pulled after 80 pitches the other day because he worked hard to get there. If a starter isn't allowing base runners, staying out of the stretch, and not having to throw his fastball at full speed, leaving him in a little longer than anticipated shouldn't hurt.

[502 to Right]

I'm tired of the pitch count police. Pitchers today throw fewer pitches than ever and still get injured at historic rates.

 

Pitchers should be removed from games when they are fatigued not when they reach some magical pitch count milestone.

 

He was fatigued. He told his manager so.

 

 

I have no problem then. If it was "he's at 100 pitches get him out," that would be dumb in my view.