Andersen goes down, Anderson and flip candidate?

[BrewersAA]

The Dodgers were counting on Brett Andersen and today it was announced that he's going down for 3-5 months with back surgery.

 

They have prospects that could step in, but the Dodgers are always a high pressure to win situation that they might try to go get someone.

 

Anyway, this makes me wonder is Anderson might become a target?

[pacopete4]

Or a possibility of Peralta? Garza if they take on the money? The endless possibilities!

[MrTPlush]

I think they would be inclined to go out and add a Veteran. Don't they have a high preference for getting veterans to fill the back end of their rotation? They do have quite a few internal options too though.

[Warning Track Power]

Garza if they take on the money?

How about the Brewers paying Garza's salary in order to get a better prospect?

[nate82]

Garza if they take on the money?

How about the Brewers paying Garza's salary in order to get a better prospect?

 

Garza and $5m for Austin Barnes!

[Roderick]

Garza if they take on the money?

How about the Brewers paying Garza's salary in order to get a better prospect?

 

Garza and $5m for Austin Barnes!

 

Don't know if you are serious (I don't know anything about the player), but I assume the Brewers would have to kick in more than $5M to get any type of real prospect. You could maybe trade Garza and $5M and get a bucket of balls, if the Dodgers get another injury / get desperate.

[mlloyd10]

They have Wood

[jerichoholicninja]

On the one hand they have injury issues in the rotation with Anderson, Ryu, and McCarthy. On the other hand none of these guys is out for the year so are they going to be willing to give up anything worthwhile for something that isn't a dire need. Worst case scenario for them is they bring up Urias for a month or so or grab some vet who gets cut at the end of camp and roll with him. Bronson Arroyo comes to mind. Although he seems like the kind of guy that Dusty Baker would keep rolling out there every 5th day no matter how bad he is.

[TURBO]

They have Wood

 

ummm, nevermind...

 

[JohnBriggs12]

They could go out and sign an Alfredo Simon or even Lohse before they'd give up anything for Garza, regardless of how much the Brewers would kick in.

[reillymcshane]

They could go out and sign an Alfredo Simon or even Lohse before they'd give up anything for Garza, regardless of how much the Brewers would kick in.

This. No one is taking Garza until he proves he's pitching well again.

[MrTPlush]

Someone would take Garza if we paid for most of the contract. I am betting a team would still take him on $3mil a year give or take. He had one poor year and peripheral wise he didn't look anymore different than prior seasons.

 

Teams are always handing out money to veteran starters. Garza was probably a better gamble than Cliff Lee and teams were lining up to throw money at him if he showed to be healthy.

[proudsoftballdad]

Someone would take Garza if we paid for most of the contract. I am betting a team would still take him on $3mil a year give or take. He had one poor year and peripheral wise he didn't look anymore different than prior seasons.

 

Teams are always handing out money to veteran starters. Garza was probably a better gamble than Cliff Lee and teams were lining up to throw money at him if he showed to be healthy.

If we were to eat that much of his contact, what's the point? You are almost all in so why not wait and see if he has a break out 1st half and then trade him if he's the same Garza as last year what are you out? In your scenario you were going to eat the contract anyway.

[MrTPlush]

Someone would take Garza if we paid for most of the contract. I am betting a team would still take him on $3mil a year give or take. He had one poor year and peripheral wise he didn't look anymore different than prior seasons.

 

Teams are always handing out money to veteran starters. Garza was probably a better gamble than Cliff Lee and teams were lining up to throw money at him if he showed to be healthy.

If we were to eat that much of his contact, what's the point? You are almost all in so why not wait and see if he has a break out 1st half and then trade him if he's the same Garza as last year what are you out? In your scenario you were going to eat the contract anyway.

 

I don't remember where I said that. I was just pointing out that we could trade him if we wanted. Someone would have taken a gamble on him. Some make it seem like no one would take him for league minimum.

[JohnBriggs12]

Someone would take Garza if we paid for most of the contract. I am betting a team would still take him on $3mil a year give or take. He had one poor year and peripheral wise he didn't look anymore different than prior seasons.

 

Teams are always handing out money to veteran starters. Garza was probably a better gamble than Cliff Lee and teams were lining up to throw money at him if he showed to be healthy.

If we were to eat that much of his contact, what's the point? You are almost all in so why not wait and see if he has a break out 1st half and then trade him if he's the same Garza as last year what are you out? In your scenario you were going to eat the contract anyway.

 

Matt Latos was signed for one year $3 million and he's both younger than Garza, has better career numbers, and had a better 2015 than Garza. Teams are leery of handing out money to veterans coming off bad years. Garza's 2015 was awful. If the Brewers were to cut Garza, I don't think they're be much of a market even though a signing team would only be on the hook for major league minimum. Most teams have rotations 6-7 guys deep right now. Eventually he'd get a job sure. Heck Suppan did, but then again Suppan had better clubhouse reputation too. But Garza would be on an extremely short leash anywhere he'd end up.

[reillymcshane]

Garza has 2 years on his contract left at $25M total. Last year, his walk rate, strike out rate, HRs allowed rate, ERA and WHIP were the worst (or second worst) of his career. He was pretty awful.

 

Garza is 32, and players fall off cliffs sometimes, and he may be one of those guys. I don't really know.

 

In my opinion, no rebuilding team is going to want the guy - he's not a future part of your next winning team. And no team with hopes of contending would want him either (at this point). He's getting older, he's had various injuries over the years, his numbers were bad last season - and just as importantly - many underlying numbers (like FIP, walk rates, K rates, etc.) indicate he's a player on the decline. Does anyone think that a club with a hope of winning this year would want Garza in their rotation at this point. Clubs simply have better, and cheaper, options at this point in the year.

 

If you paid $20M or so of the contract, perhaps someone would take him. But he really doesn't fit into anyone's plans - except Milwaukee.

 

Let's face it - we owe the guy $25M (minimum). The way to try and recoup some of that is to let Garza pitch in 2016, and hope he does decent, then trade him when the chance arrives. Despite all the bad signs last year, Garza's velocity was about the same as previous years. And prior to 2015, he's been remarkably consistent, with an ERA between 3.31 and 3.95 over 8 straight seasons. We can hope 2015 was an aberration - bad years happen. And at 32, he's not that old.

 

If things go well, perhaps Garza can be dealt this summer - saving the team money (maybe only including $10M instead of $20M in a deal) and/or perhaps actually netting the club a decent prospect in return.

 

Deal him now, and you flush at least $20M down the drain, and you get next to nothing in trade.

 

If Garza truly is done as a good pitcher, the team may have to end up cutting him at some point - in which case you eat his entire contract - which is close to what you'd have to do if you traded him right now.

[BrewersAA]

not sure if you all saw the title or original post. But I suggested trading Anderson.... not Garza....

[pacopete4]

not sure if you all saw the title or original post. But I suggested trading Anderson.... not Garza....

 

 

It's my fault. I mentioned him in more of a joking fashion and look where it brought it. My bad...

[StearnsFTW]

They have Wood

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[monty57]

The Dodgers were counting on Brett Andersen and today it was announced that he's going down for 3-5 months with back surgery.

 

They have prospects that could step in, but the Dodgers are always a high pressure to win situation that they might try to go get someone.

 

Anyway, this makes me wonder is Anderson might become a target?

 

The way things are sitting, I think the Brewers are going to stand pat on their rotation. The team won't be good, but I don't think they're trying to lose, and the current rotation allows for a little bit more depth, with either Davies or Jungmann at AAA (also allowing us to save some service time on one of them). If we trade Anderson, then things could look really ugly when someone doesn't perform and/or we have some injuries.

 

Anderson has team control, and can be traded down the road when more of our prospects are ready to step into the majors. Unlike Lucroy, who is a concussion risk and could bring back a king's ransom in prospects, there is no need to trade Anderson, who to me seems to be a guy who will help the Brewers more as a member of the team then he would as a trade chip.