Brewers acquire OF Rymer Liriano from SD for farmhand LHP Trevor Seidenberger; Shane Peterson DFA'd (Update: Peterson clears waivers, accepts NRI)

[502 to Right]

I'm actually getting excited to think about the young kids that will be playing this year. It's like going to the casino. You'll probably lose--but you could win some big hands.

 

 

 

(Edit - written by someone who never goes to the casino. Maybe watching the Brewers this year will be my form of gambling)

[DHonks]

I like this move. I also think a season of 150-250 at bats is often a nice thing for these fringe players. It lets them play without being over-exposed, experience some success. Kind of like breaking in a starter as a reliever

[jerichoholicninja]

The things I've read have put him as a corner OF that can play CF, doesn't sound like a great defensive CF.

[Mass Haas]

Via Fangraphs three days ago, certainly relevant:

 

Projecting the DFA’d Rymer Liriano

[FVBrewerFan]

Is Flores a CF ? but i agree Lirano will be given ever chance to be our CF. I like the players they have added even though some have no Options.

 

Don't forget about Broxton...

[MKE81]

Is Flores a CF ? but i agree Lirano will be given ever chance to be our CF. I like the players they have added even though some have no Options.

 

Don't forget about Broxton...

 

Excellent acquisition of Liriano. I agree about Broxton as people seem to be forgetting about him. I personally favor Broxton for starting in CF at this point given he's a true defender there and also offers some pop and speed. But both these guys getting playing time would be great in addition to having Flores as a backup as well. I'm assuming they'd roll with 5 OF since Villar and Walsh can handle multiple positions in IF off bench while still getting plenty of playing time (figuring Middlebrooks, Segura, Scooter, Carter starting at this point although Middlebrooks might not make the team while the starting middle IF might eventually be traded). This team might only win 70 games but they'll be interesting to watch

[JohnBriggs12]

Love it, bring in as many high ceiling, tool shed, former top rated prospects as you can and see which one will hit. With all these guys, you have to believe that at least 1 or 2 will stick. Build that competition up to the max. See who wants the opportunity the most. Moreover, trading Davis looks a lot better and more certain by end of spring training if any of these guys shine.

 

Great move, no risk. How is he in CF? He is 6'0 230 but very athletic (NFL in box SS type build and athletic ability)

 

Though it's not always indicative but he makes a lot of errors and the Pads used him exclusively in RF. Even there he made 4 errors in 34 games. That's not good. In the minors he made 20 errors in 213 games in CF. He's said to have a very strong arm, so I'm guessing many of the errors were on throws that got away. 6 foot and 230 is not exactly the body shape of a typical CF. I still think Nieuwenhuis is the odds on for opening day CF because of the lack of LH bats and his experience. Is Santana a guy they'll deal? This move makes that more likely.

 

Caution everyone, he fanned 39 times in 109 major league AB's with 1 homer. With that K rate, you need to be able to put up 25-30 HR. Not sure he is. But virtually every OF Stearns has a acquired has serious contact issues too. That to me is a disturbing trend. I can somewhat live with Carter fanning a lot because he's got proven power but these guys?

[Bnowell4evr]

Sickels was still very high on Liriano just a year ago.

 

3) Rymer Liriano, OF, Grade B/Borderline B+: Age 23, hit .291/.362/.473 with 20 steals in 115 games between Double-A and Triple-A, but just .220/.289/.266 in 38 major league games. All the tools are here but his approach is still rather raw. 20/20 potential if he can show sufficient polish for it to manifest, which is still an open question.

 

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2015/1/17/7629429/san-diego-padres-top-20-prospects-for-2015

[Noche]

Great move. Time to deal Khrush Davis.

[djoctagone]

Adam McCalvy's tweet offered his opinion that he thought Shane Peterson's a pretty solid 4th OF. I agree wholeheartedly. He also hit .294 as a PH. Other than Gerardo Parra, we haven't had many good 4th OFs and good PHs in recent years outside of Peterson (noting that Jason Rogers was also a decent PH).

 

I hope Peterson stays. I don't get the bile about this guy. He can hit and generally has decent ABs, the latter of which can't be said for a number of our starters.

the brewers want to keep peterson in the organization. many teams already have their triple-a depth lined up (in contrast to early november when opportunities were abound). peterson is out of minor league options, so that works against him in claiming him. he knows that the brewers are trying relative unknowns in center field, and he knows that ryan braun can be bitten by the injury bug. and he knows that another proven pinch hitter, jason rogers, is no longer in the organization.

 

i think he'll opt to stay, and await having his contract purchased again in 2016.

[fondybrewfan]

Why the heck did the Padres even DFA him? Its not like their 25 and 40 man rosters are just overflowing with talent. We probably should be considered the odds on favorite in CF and we just got him and his 6 years of service time for a non-prospect. Odds are one of these Liriano, Ceccini, Middlebrooks, Broxton, Flores deals are going to look awesome in hindsight. It only really takes 1 home run to make all these minor moves totally worth it

[JohnBriggs12]

Why the heck did the Padres even DFA him? Its not like their 25 and 40 man rosters are just overflowing with talent. We probably should be considered the odds on favorite in CF and we just got him and his 6 years of service time for a non-prospect. Odds are one of these Liriano, Ceccini, Middlebrooks, Broxton, Flores deals are going to look awesome in hindsight. It only really takes 1 home run to make all these minor moves totally worth it

 

He wasn't good in his major league trial last year. 1 HR and 39 K's and a .555 OPS in 109 ABs? That after more than 3,000 minor league ABs? Figuring SD might feel he's hit a wall in his development. Dealing Davis to make room for that would be rather foolish. He's far from a finished product, doesn't have the power to project as a regular corner OF and is questionable defensively in CF. Lots of red flags here.

[FVBrewerFan]

Why the heck did the Padres even DFA him? Its not like their 25 and 40 man rosters are just overflowing with talent.

 

No, but they are overflowing with bodies in the OF. Liriano was probably their 7th OF, out of options, so it makes sense. Just no room for him there.

[Mudville9]

[EDIT: Welcome to the list, young man.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2015?list=mil

 

I know this is completely off subject, but Cody Ponce is our #30 prospect???

[Outlander]

That list will be updated in the next month, the rankings don't mean much right now.

[ClosetBrewerFan]

I have to believe this ensures Domingo will be at AAA next year, barring a trade of Davis/Braun. Probably the same for Broxton. Hard to keep guys with options on the ML roster over the out of options guys.

 

Great job stockpiling these high reward players on the cheap. Should make spring training more interesting.

[Mudville9]

I have to believe this ensures Domingo will be at AAA next year, barring a trade of Davis/Braun. Probably the same for Broxton. Hard to keep guys with options on the ML roster over the out of options guys.

 

Great job stockpiling these high reward players on the cheap. Should make spring training more interesting.

 

I would love to see Santana in AAA after his performance in Winter League. That would also make for quite the OF in Colorado Springs. Love to see the depth that is coming into the Brewers system. Should be a fun year!...except for all the losses.

[RobDeer 45]

Seems like a good move to me. My excitement continues to build.

[patrickgpe]

yeah maybe now it makes sense to let Santana start in triple A, have an OF of Braun, Davis, Liriano, Broxton, and then pick a 5th OF.

[JohnBriggs12]

Liriano is an out of options player who still has developing to do. That's why he was available so cheap. I'm not a big fan of this strategy. Guys who are overmatched at the major league level may eventually develop, but it's usually after they are outrighted off a roster or dealt for marginal return. With all the other OF in camp, is he going to make enough of an impact to win a roster spot, or will he be given one because he's out of options?

[JohnBriggs12]

yeah maybe now it makes sense to let Santana start in triple A, have an OF of Braun, Davis, Liriano, Broxton, and then pick a 5th OF.

 

You're forgetting Nieuwenhuis, who as the sole lefty hitter among the rostered OF, is a favorite to be in CF on opening day. I don't see both Broxton and Liriano on the opening day roster barring a trade. I see them in direct competition for one available spot.

[patrickgpe]

yeah maybe now it makes sense to let Santana start in triple A, have an OF of Braun, Davis, Liriano, Broxton, and then pick a 5th OF.

 

You're forgetting Nieuwenhuis, who as the sole lefty hitter among the rostered OF, is a favorite to be in CF on opening day. I don't see both Broxton and Liriano on the opening day roster barring a trade. I see them in direct competition for one available spot.

 

I didn't forget him, i figured it would be a mix of Flores, Reed, or Nieuwenhuis. I never figured Nieuwenhuis was much of a player and I only see him as a left handed bat off of the bench, but we shall see how the spring shakes out. Broxton has speed and is a decent centerfielder, the brewers don't really have either right now. Liriano is a wildcard

[Boomer5]

This is really good pick up, which in part means we don't have to worry about picking up an outfielder in the Davis trade.

[FVBrewerFan]

Guys who are overmatched at the major league level may eventually develop, but it's usually after they are outrighted off a roster or dealt for marginal return.

 

Overmatched at MLB level based on 100 ABs? Really? Makes perfect sense why SD made the move. He's out of options, and their OF is set, plus have a couple young guys with all their options.

 

Sure there's no guarantee he will be a solid MLB player, that's why he was available. But I certainly wouldn't say he is overmatched after 100 ABs.

[rwa12]

Seidenberger assigned to the Lake Elsinore Storm. Pitching coach there is Glendon Rusch. He can regale him with stories of the legendary Rusch-Quevedo 1-2 punch of 2002-3. I can't believe Disney hasn't made a movie about that ragtag bunch.

 

Good luck, Trevor. Let him teach you how to bunt, pitching advice, not so much.

 

Possibly my least favorite Brewer of the last 20 years.