Major League Rule 5 Selection: RHP Zack Jones (Twins); Latest: Jones returned to Twins 6/19

[ewitkows]

I heard we got Zach Jones from the twins also

[torts]

they got another rule 5 guy, RHP Zack Jones from Minnesota

[homer]

Jones is a K meister. Career 186Ks in 130IP. Potential back end of the bullpen guy?

[dacbrewers]

Also walks guys...think Twins demoted him mid season to A ball. Not many innings in 4 years though.

[JohnBriggs12]

Also walks guys...think Twins demoted him mid season to A ball. Not many innings in 4 years though.

 

Obvious command issues. They'll have a spring training to work with him to see if they can be fixed. If not just offer him back.

[homer]

Also walks guys...think Twins demoted him mid season to A ball. Not many innings in 4 years though.

 

yeah definitely a bullpen arm.

 

Seemed to struggle with command at AA. Maybe his stuff moves a bunch and the more advanced hitters lay off it.

[patrickgpe]

Jones is in the Twins top 30 MLB pipeline prospects ranking, so that should make alot of the posters upset about the Lind trade happy

[And That]

Jones is in the Twins top 30 MLB pipeline prospects ranking, so that should make alot of the posters upset about the Lind trade happy

MLB Pipeline has his fastball as a 75 - that's plus-plus and then some. Appears to lack any sort of breaking ball and control is a problem. One great tool though, so he has a chance.

[patrickgpe]

could be a decent late inning reliever eventually.

 

I am supreised that Teoscar Hernandez was not picked at all in the draft.

[Mass Haas]

Zach Jones (MiLB page)

 

VIDEO - August 2013 (Discussion with the fireballing RHP)

[clancyphile]

Jones is intriguing. Reminding me a little bit of Derrick Turnbow.

[CheezWizHed]

Can we change the title to reflect this is Zach Jones?

[1992casey]

It said Zach Jones earlier; I don't know what happened. My only guess is that it reverted to the old title when I added the transaction posticon. It's fixed now.

[CheezWizHed]

Interesting guy. MiLB averages are:

 

2.83 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 5.7H/9, 5.0BB/9, 12.8K/9 over 4 seasons, but only 130.1 IP.

 

Is there such a thing as 3TO for pitchers? (except he only gave up 6 HR in 130.1 IP).

 

As long as he misses bats and throws enough strikes, he might be able to stick in the pen. But if the MLB level can get some hits off him his BB rate will make it unsustainable. I doubt he ever comes in with men on base.

[Mass Haas]

It said Zach Jones earlier; I don't know what happened. My only guess is that it reverted to the old title when I added the transaction posticon. It's fixed now.

 

Casey, I was in the midst of splitting the thread for Walsh and Jones into two.

 

By the way, it's Zack with a "k" (like Greinke), confirmed by the significant other on Twitter.

[FVBrewerFan]

Seems like it's worth a shot. Guys like this, all they need is a decent 2nd pitch. And if they can develop a really good 2nd pitch, you have found lightning in a bottle.

[jerichoholicninja]

Like both these picks. The 2016 infield looks like it will be all utility or utility-level hitting players plus Scooter.

[CheezWizHed]

By the way, it's Zack with a "k" (like Greinke), confirmed by the significant other on Twitter.

 

Odd, I accidentally started looking for Zack Jones, but couldnt' find him. Baseball Reference, Fangraphs, and Milb.com all have him as Zach.

[Outlander]

Jones is in the Twins top 30 MLB pipeline prospects ranking, so that should make alot of the posters upset about the Lind trade happy

I had to check to see if they put Jones in the Brewers top 30 and bumped Ponce out, thankfully they did not.

[JohnBriggs12]

Jones is intriguing. Reminding me a little bit of Derrick Turnbow.

 

That's a good thing???

[Jenkins5]

Jones is intriguing. Reminding me a little bit of Derrick Turnbow.

 

That's a good thing???

 

Guess you don't remember when he was likes out & exciting until he flamed out....crashed burned. If Jones can give us at least 1 year like Turnbow had before his collapse, that is a huge win for a rule 5 pick

[jerichoholicninja]

Jones is intriguing. Reminding me a little bit of Derrick Turnbow.

 

That's a good thing???

 

Guess you don't remember when he was likes out & exciting until he flamed out....crashed burned. If Jones can give us at least 1 year like Turnbow had before his collapse, that is a huge win for a rule 5 pick

 

If the lights out happens in 2016 or 2017 in a year where the team isn't competing for anything and the flame out happens during a playoff run, is it really a win though?

[clancyphile]

Guess you don't remember when he was likes out & exciting until he flamed out....crashed burned. If Jones can give us at least 1 year like Turnbow had before his collapse, that is a huge win for a rule 5 pick

 

If the lights out happens in 2016 or 2017 in a year where the team isn't competing for anything and the flame out happens during a playoff run, is it really a win though?

 

If the lights out is in 2016-2017, you have the option to flip him for help elsewhere. Let somebody else deal with the flameout, or the big money in arbitration/free agency.

[jerichoholicninja]

Guess you don't remember when he was likes out & exciting until he flamed out....crashed burned. If Jones can give us at least 1 year like Turnbow had before his collapse, that is a huge win for a rule 5 pick

 

If the lights out happens in 2016 or 2017 in a year where the team isn't competing for anything and the flame out happens during a playoff run, is it really a win though?

 

If the lights out is in 2016-2017, you have the option to flip him for help elsewhere. Let somebody else deal with the flameout, or the big money in arbitration/free agency.

 

I would agree that flipping him would be a good idea but would Stearns really trade a good, young, cheap relief pitcher just as the team is becoming competitive? I don't know. The Astros bullpen is pretty much built with free agents and trades. The Brewers have historically botched it with their flash in the pan relievers holding on to Turnbow, Axford, and Henderson too long. Kolb was the only one they got anything for and Cappellan was a failure in his own right.

[ZBTMP]

Procedural question, I know any team can claim him for their 25 roster if we elect to send him back to the Twins, but Iif the Brewers can work out a deal with the Twins to maintain his rights, can they option him (while staying on the 40 man roster) without needing to clear everyone's 25 man roster?