Lind, Lucroy, K-Rod available (as per Olney)

[3and2Fastball]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/milwaukee-brewers

 

You'll need to scroll down on that page for Brewers content

 

"....new Milwaukee GM David Stearns aims to make his team younger and build for the future."

 

I would love to see all 3 of these players traded soon. They all have value

[brewmann04]

It would not suprise me if they move Smith first.

[sheetskout]

It would not suprise me if they move Smith first.

 

Wouldn't surprise me either. Smith, to me has the most value on the team when you take his contract into consideration. He could be packaged with one of those mentioned to create a hell of a package. Smith would be coveted by virtually any other team in baseball as well.

[3and2Fastball]

Personally I would want to keep Smith. He can be under team control until 2020. Having a great bullpen is more than just a trend in MLB, it is common sense. I'd keep him

[bill hAll Star]

Eh, great bullpen arms can lose gas over time. By 2018 or 2019 he could be a shell of his former self. We can find more in the future.

[JohnBriggs12]

How does trading Lucroy make the team younger if you presume he'll bring back exclusively prospects and not current major leaguers? Maldonado is a mere 2 months younger than Lucroy. Rogers, who I presume would take over for Lind will be 28 in March. Jeffress, who I presume would inherit the closing role is 28. Neither of those two are kids by any means. Davis who isn't being talked about in trades turns 28 in December.

 

The only codger in the rotation is Garza (who's contract should be eaten).

 

Even if they start the year without trading any current player, it's not an old team though trading their veterans doesn't make it a young one either. Segura and Gennett are 25. Perez is 24. Santana is 23. One presumes once guys like Arcia and Phillips are up in the big leagues, and Garza is sent packing, it will be younger than most, but that won't take trading anyone other than Segura who's not old either.

[3and2Fastball]

Lucroy is 29 years old and a Catcher. That is right on the cusp of a big decline but young enough that a trade partner could legitimately think he could return to his 2014 production or close to it. A rebuilding team wants to maximize return on players who would be unlikely to be in their prime when said rebuilding team becomes a contender again.

[bill hAll Star]

The Brewers could start several 43 year-old-players at some positions for 2016 and 2017 for all I care. I want a major collection of young, star-potential players ready to play in 2018 or so. As the above poster stated, Lucroy is only going downhill from here, so trade him (and who cares if Maldonado is the temporary replacement?).

[MrTPlush]

John since you failed to read his post closely enough or the article here you go:

 

Olney further tweets that catcher Jonathan Lucroy and closer Francisco Rodriguez “are available for trade talks” as well, as new Milwaukee GM David Stearns aims to make his team younger and build for the future.

[monty57]

How does trading Lucroy make the team younger

 

I would assume that by "team" he means "franchise" or "system."

[bill hAll Star]

No, he was saying the "next man up" in most cases is already 27 or 28 if we trade some of these guys. He referred to Maldonado being about as old as Luc and Rogers being fairly old to fill in for Lind.

[RockCoCougars]

When are people going to realize that K-Rod has zero trade value due to the domestic issue? In this day and age, no team is going to trade anything of value for someone that carries that kind of baggage. It would be like an NFL team trading for Ray Rice last year. There is a reason that he has to come crawling back to the Brewers every time he hits the market and that's it.

[jerichoholicninja]

When are people going to realize that K-Rod has zero trade value due to the domestic issue? In this day and age, no team is going to trade anything of value for someone that carries that kind of baggage. It would be like an NFL team trading for Ray Rice last year. There is a reason that he has to come crawling back to the Brewers every time he hits the market and that's it.

 

Because people realize that Ray Rice and KRod are two completely different situations and I highly doubt any MLB GM has reservations over acquiring him because of it.

[3and2Fastball]

I think it'd be wise not to underestimate the trade value of Adam Lind. Other than Chris Davis, who will likely command a huge contract, there aren't exactly a lot of very good 1B/DH free agents this year.

 

There also aren't a lot of top quality free agent relief pitchers available (Ryan Madson, Joakim Soria, and Tyler Clippard have been mentioned as top of the line). K-Rod, despite his baggage, does have trade value.

 

Lucroy is the one who could really bring back some Top Prospects though. I think you could get a few Top 100 prospects for Lucroy, maybe even a Top 25 prospect.

[adambr2]

When are people going to realize that K-Rod has zero trade value due to the domestic issue? In this day and age, no team is going to trade anything of value for someone that carries that kind of baggage. It would be like an NFL team trading for Ray Rice last year. There is a reason that he has to come crawling back to the Brewers every time he hits the market and that's it.

 

Because people realize that Ray Rice and KRod are two completely different situations and I highly doubt any MLB GM has reservations over acquiring him because of it.

 

K-Rod beat up his ex's old man enough to put him in the hospital. Then his girlfriend d said he hit her in the head, grabbed her by the hair and threw her, kicked her several times, and then dragged her out to their car. How is that a completely different situation?

 

Also, I would say that the fact that we were unable to get a good enough return for K-Rod by the deadline despite a very good statistical season is a pretty good indication that there are indeed MLB GMs with reservations about acquiring him because of it.

[MrTPlush]

How many fans know of the K-Rod situation? How many know of the Ray Rice situation?

 

How covered was the K-Rod situation? How covered was the Ray Rice situation?

 

Ahh so you found your difference.

[splitterpfj]

How many fans know of the K-Rod situation? How many know of the Ray Rice situation?

 

How covered was the K-Rod situation? How covered was the Ray Rice situation?

 

Ahh so you found your difference.

 

Plush, you're right, at the time they happened there was a huge difference in media coverage, but since the Rice video, things have changed. I have no doubt, if a team trades for K-Rod, someone will publicly ask the team who gets him about his past. I think GM's, owners, marketing staffs, you name it - would rather avoid the issue.

 

Even so, if you take PED guys as an example now, or cocaine addicts from prior eras, or alcoholics, or whatever else people have done .... if a team thinks they'll win, someone will deal for K-Rod. He's good, it's proven, and he's not on a horrible contract.

[adambr2]

How many fans know of the K-Rod situation? How many know of the Ray Rice situation?

 

How covered was the K-Rod situation? How covered was the Ray Rice situation?

 

Ahh so you found your difference.

 

It doesn't make a difference if the fans know. It matters if the GMs know, and there are 30 of them that do.

[MrTPlush]

How many fans know of the K-Rod situation? How many know of the Ray Rice situation?

 

How covered was the K-Rod situation? How covered was the Ray Rice situation?

 

Ahh so you found your difference.

 

It doesn't make a difference if the fans know. It matters if the GMs know, and there are 30 of them that do.

 

That simplifies things then. They don't care at all if it makes them win. That has been proven many times. All about $$$$$.

[adambr2]

I don't know. K Rod was looking great around the deadline, and it made all the sense in the world to move him. I have to think that that was at least part of the reason that we didn't get any acceptable offers.

[pacopete4]

I don't know. K Rod was looking great around the deadline, and it made all the sense in the world to move him. I have to think that that was at least part of the reason that we didn't get any acceptable offers.

 

 

I think it had more to do with contract length than anything.

[logan82]

He's old and doesn't really have stuff. He gets by on smoke and mirrors. He and his HR rate have been up and down the past few years. He was pretty bad in Baltimore after we traded him in 2013. There are plenty of reasons he hasn't been traded. I doubt the domestic violence stuff is a big issue.

[Outlander]

It is naive to think Krods off the field issues don't impact his value. As soon as somebody trades for him somebody in the media will pull a Michael Cohen and no team wants to deal with that.

[logan82]

It is naive to think Krods off the field issues don't impact his value. As soon as somebody trades for him somebody in the media will pull a Michael Cohen and no team wants to deal with that.

It's naive to think GMs care about anything beyond winning.

[KCBrewerfan34]

Logan82 you're 100% wrong, all organizations look into backgrounds of players and they assess the risk.