Goold: Brewers willing to trade Lind, have had talks with Cardinals

[Mass Haas]

Via @dgoold

 

"Brewers are believed to be willing to trade 1B Adam Lind", and have talked to Cardinals recently.

[JohnBriggs12]

Nothing new here. Lind's name has been out there for 2 months and Cardinals have need. Key word is "believed". Lind doesn't have to be traded, and even if he is, I doubt the Brewers would have interest in helping Cardinals. It's a completely different situation than with Ramirez, as they control Lind beyond this year and Cards would pick up his option even if they intend to deal him after this year.

 

Nothing's impossible but Lind's been out there for a while so I imagine Melvin's got a hefty price on him as he should.

[monty57]

Nothing new here. Lind's name has been out there for 2 months and Cardinals have need. Key word is "believed". Lind doesn't have to be traded, and even if he is, I doubt the Brewers would have interest in helping Cardinals. It's a completely different situation than with Ramirez, as they control Lind beyond this year and Cards would pick up his option even if they intend to deal him after this year.

 

Nothing's impossible but Lind's been out there for a while so I imagine Melvin's got a hefty price on him as he should.

 

I agree with this except for the "doubt that Brewers would have interest in helping Cardinals" part. Any trade is not about helping the team you are trading with, it's about what helps your team the most.

 

The Brewers are not a playoff team this year, and if they are indeed going to rebuild, will not be shooting for the playoffs next year. In that case, it should not matter at all who they trade with, they should just go for the package that is best for them.

 

While it's okay for fans to say "I hope any team but the Cardinals wins the division," it would be foolish for Brewer management to let that cloud their trade judgement. If the Brewers don't win it, it doesn't matter who does, as long as the Brewers are doing what they can to give themselves a better shot of winning it in the future.

[DuWayne Steurer]

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While it's okay for fans to say "I hope any team but the Cardinals wins the division," it would be foolish for Brewer management to let that cloud their trade judgement. If the Brewers don't win it, it doesn't matter who does, as long as the Brewers are doing what they can to give themselves a better shot of winning it in the future.

 

 

There's no possible way to say it better. The Cardinals may be a 'rival', but if they offer the best package, then pull the trigger.

[mlloyd10]

Lind for Weaver

[Boomer5]

Melvin traded Axford so he will clearly work with those gentlemen.

 

For 1.5 of Lind, this should be an quality return though.

[Roderick]

If the Brewers were realistically competing next year, it would take more to trade him to the Cardinals. But I think 2017 should be the target and if the Cardinals offer a little bit more than the next team, I would take their offer.

[Boomer5]

Id want Piscotty back in a trade like this.

[JohnBriggs12]

Melvin traded Axford so he will clearly work with those gentlemen.

 

For 1.5 of Lind, this should be an quality return though.

 

Completely different. Axford had fallen out of favor with Brewers and was a reliever. Lind is an effective middle of the order bat and those guys don't fall off trees like relievers do.

 

I wouldn't rule out a deal with Cards if their offer is insanely good. Just being the "best one out there" though isn't good enough if it's not enough value for Lind.

 

I'd want Rob Kaminsky in any deal with them. Charlie Tilson too if not Piscotty.

[Invader3K]

You make the trade with the team willing to make the best offer, regardless of if it's the Cardinals or some other team. We aren't competing this year or next, so it really doesn't matter.

[reillymcshane]

I could care less about dealing with the Cardinals if it works out to our team's advantage in the long run.

 

Honestly, I don't want the Cards to win the WS again - but more importantly, I want Milwaukee to win it in the future. Lind is controlled through 2016, a time frame we aren't going to win anything. If the Cards give us back the best deal, then take it. I'm not going to not deal with them just to spite them.

 

If Milwaukee was a contender, then sure, you don't make deals with your rivals. But right now, we aren't rivals to the Cardinals, and Lind's impact ends after 2016. So make a good deal. If that's now with the Cards, then go for it.

[Boomer5]

Melvin traded Axford so he will clearly work with those gentlemen.

 

For 1.5 of Lind, this should be an quality return though.

 

Completely different. Axford had fallen out of favor with Brewers and was a reliever. Lind is an effective middle of the order bat and those guys don't fall off trees like relievers do.

 

I wouldn't rule out a deal with Cards if their offer is insanely good. Just being the "best one out there" though isn't good enough if it's not enough value for Lind.

 

I'd want Rob Kaminsky in any deal with them. Charlie Tilson too if not Piscotty.

 

Of course. I am well aware of Axford, as was any Brewers fan.

 

It was just to point out the notion that we wouldn't ever trade with the Cardinals isn't correct. Axford, while worthless for us at the time, was just the kind of high ceiling guy that could have been lights out down the stretch with a change of scenery, so there was plenty of reason to not give him up to a team we in theory hated.

 

Lind is a guy we will see next year too, so I would want a nice return back, with Piscotty being one piece of such a move.

[bill hAll Star]

If the Cardinals offer the best return, I'd absolutely make the deal. In an odd way, I'm a Cards fan.

 

As I grow older, I care less and less about getting mad about a rival's success, but the 2 things I moderately care about going into any MLB season are:

 

1. The Cubs not winning a WS

2. The Cardinals not winning another WS

 

If #2 happening helps #1 not happen, then so be it. Priorities.

 

Even if this wasn't the case, and we were trading with the Pirates or Reds, I'd still make the trade in the division if it meant the best return. Trading Lind and/or Gomez means competing in 2016 is officially off the table. That's as long as Lind's contract runs (with the option next year), so I don't care if I'm helping a division opponent in 2016 as well.

[reillymcshane]

Of the Cardinal prospects, I'd love a pitcher such as Kaminsky or Reyes. Piscotty I've always been skeptical of in the past (not showing enough power or walks for my taste), but he's a little more intriguing as he's improved this year. He might be a bit of a tweener type guy with a limited ceiling. Don't know about his defense.

[narwhalattack]

Of the Cardinal prospects, I'd love a pitcher such as Kaminsky or Reyes. Piscotty I've always been skeptical of in the past (not showing enough power or walks for my taste), but he's a little more intriguing as he's improved this year. He might be a bit of a tweener type guy with a limited ceiling. Don't know about his defense.

 

I don't think the Brewers are gonna get Reyes, but I think Kaminsky is possible.

[And That]

ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick tweets that even if Davis were to be made available by the Orioles, the Cardinals wouldn’t have much interest in him. Crasnick adds that neither Brandon Moss nor Yonder Alonso is on the Cardinals’ radar at this time. Like Goold, however, he hears that St. Louis does have legitimate interest in Lind.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/adam-lind-cardinals-trade-target.html

[Warning Track Power]

Id want Piscotty back in a trade like this.

Yes...a trade like this, in division, where it could potentially solve their 1B issue for at least the next 1.5 years, is worth a talent like Piscotty.

[brewcrewdue80]

No to Weaver. Yes on Reyes and/or Kaminsky. That'd be my starting point. Reyes or Kaminsky. Find another prospect down the list.

 

Interdivision trades go though, I find it hard to imagine the Cardinals parting with either of those two as you're looking at #2 type SPs facing your squad for 6years. Not a RP like Blazek who pitches maybe 8 innings total vs your team in a season.

[MrTPlush]

I don't think the whole division thing really matters here. They shouldnt have to require any extra value just because the Cardinals are in the division. Lind will never effect our ability to compete unlike let's say Lucroy would. If we don't make a trade with them just so we don't help them win the world series now we are a horribly run franchise. Who cares if they win it when we can't.

[Mudville9]

It doesn't matter anyway. If we don't trade him he will be hurt, if we do trade him to the Cards he will put MVP type numbers and whoever we get will not pan out.

[And That]

I bet Lind could put up a 3.25 ERA with the Cards.

[SRB]

Reyes is too much for Lind. Kaminsky maybe, but St. Louis is coasting and doesn't really need anybody so huge kudos to Melvin if he can get that good of a return.

[MrTPlush]

Opposing teams that want Lind think he will land with Cardinals according to reports.

[splitterpfj]

I've got several friends in Missouri, they ask me every day if I think the Cardinals can get Lind. The St Louis faithful have a man crush right now.

 

They're convinced that a lefty bat at first base will be the difference between a playoff team and a World Series team.

[Boomer5]

Lind is out of the lineup tonight.