Ramirez to Pittsburgh for Yhonathan Barrios; Goforth recalled

[FVBrewerFan]

I'm a big Rogers supporter, but I just don't see it happening at 3B. He won't even be a good 1B, but at least he has a chance to be adequate there.

[molitor fan]

I think it's really interesting that Milwaukee now has 7 of the hardest throwing 50 minor leaguers. We'll see if it ever amounts to anything.

 

 

Could you link to where you found that, and that? That would be a fascinating list to peruse

[pacopete4]

I think it's really interesting that Milwaukee now has 7 of the hardest throwing 50 minor leaguers. We'll see if it ever amounts to anything.

 

 

Could you link to where you found that, and that? That would be a fascinating list to peruse

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/throw-hardest-minor-leaguers-100-mph-pitchers/

 

I think this is what they are referring to.

[LouisEly]

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2015/7/24/9030429/evaluating-the-newest-brewers-prospect-yhonathan-barrios

 

From Quinn Berry:

 

Perhaps surprisingly, Barrios has been pretty successful as a pitcher in his minor league career. Despite a small frame (5-11, 180), Yhonathan has an extremely live arm and can generate almost 100 miles per hour of velocity on his fastball. The offering has late sinking action which, when combined with the speed, makes it incredibly difficult to hit. The ball comes out freely and easily from his very simple and low-effort delivery.

While he hasn't generated a lot of strikeouts (yet), the reason he has been successful and has a low ERA is because of the late sinking action - he generates a lot of ground balls. It isn't luck that he has a good ERA, and with better defense behind him in the majors should only get better. Needs to work on his secondary offerings, but the fact that he only has ~100 innings on his arm is a big plus and suggests room to develop.

 

Can't say the Brewers aren't targeting high upside guys with trades.

[Hammer]

Can't say the Brewers aren't targeting high upside guys with trades.

This is the exact trend that I want to see going forward. AA or A+ returns with tons of upside...

[igor67]

Considering the relative value we were giving up I would rate this as an excellent deal. First the guaranteed return of just over 1/5 (compared to a little over 1/3 of the season remaining) of his remaining contract in savings is more than I would have guessed we'd pull off while still getting a prospect worth caring about much. I don't worry about trying to saving Attanasio's money too much in these sorts of deals, but I will acknowledge the value particularly if it can ensure the team breaks even on the season and doesn't have to go super cheap on other things again.

Second and more importantly it is a talent with some serious potential. I have little interest in older flamethrower's who haven't learned control (Hellweg etc.). Between his relative inexperience pitching, already being in AA and the fact that he currently isn't wild I have more confidence he can develop into at least a useful player and possibly even an elite reliever. Consider that the Pirates had the 7th ranked farm system coming into the year by minorleagueball.com and he was their 21st best prospect. I will crudely assert that this is roughly comparable to a similar ranking on our most recent community list. Which would be guys like Demi, Knebel, and Taylor Williams. Yes that is excellent value.

Between more buyers, a better player, and a lower salary similar prospect return for Parra could easily be a player comparable to the outside of our current top 10. Which if that is all Melvin got done would still be a pretty good deadline, keeping in mind that Cotts is the only other player who might bring some real prospect value that would need to be dealt right now. That doesn't mean I'm not hoping for more, but there is not sense in getting weak value for guys who don't need to be dealt right now.

[Boomer5]

I really thought ARam would yield more that Barrios but not a horrible move. I would have waited until the 31st to try and leverage more, but what do I know?

 

Melvin seems to do well finding young bullpen arms, and if can can contribute next year, he opens up a large salary slot, as does shedding ARam's deal.

[TheCrew07]

The only problem is that since he was a position player the Brewers need to make strides with him very quickly because they are already up against the point he'll need to be added to the 40 man to be protected. I would have preferred a competitive balance pick in what projects to be a very good draft next year but I'm happy with Barrios, he's basically Damien Magnifico without the development time to learn a secondary pitch or 2.

[MrTPlush]

The only problem is that since he was a position player the Brewers need to make strides with him very quickly because they are already up against the point he'll need to be added to the 40 man to be protected. I would have preferred a competitive balance pick in what projects to be a very good draft next year but I'm happy with Barrios, he's basically Damien Magnifico without the development time to learn a secondary pitch or 2.

 

I can almost bet that Comp Pick wasn't an option. Brewers would have almost surely preferred that.

[Thurston Fluff]

The only problem is that since he was a position player the Brewers need to make strides with him very quickly because they are already up against the point he'll need to be added to the 40 man to be protected. I would have preferred a competitive balance pick in what projects to be a very good draft next year but I'm happy with Barrios, he's basically Damien Magnifico without the development time to learn a secondary pitch or 2.

 

I think most of us would. Problem is teams who have good farms tend to value high picks who won't need protection on the 40 man roster for the next several years way more than they value guys who aren't ready but need to be protected soon. The Brewers on the other hand are working with a weak farm so they can just put him there and not risk losing someone else.

[The stache]

I like this move. It nets us a pitcher that could help us out in a few years (maybe a setup guy, or possible closer material?), we get a chance to look at a few guys who could play third for a while, and a class act gets to go back to the team he started with to end his career. If Barrios doesn't work out, we didn't spend a lot to get him. It's a win win.

 

Aramis has been a pure professional since coming to Milwaukee. I wish him the very best in Pittsburgh.