Milwaukee Bucks 2015 - 2016

[Jenkins5]

Love pick! Same with Giannis pick, take the guy you think has the biggest chance to be a star. Sounds like entire Bucks staff was blown away by Maker. Needs to add a lot of strength but kid can shoot & defend! When that arena is opened, hopefully Maker is starting to really click.

[SRB]

It's weird how different baseball and basketball are, that Bucks fans are so up set by an upside pick.

[rwa12]

Less time to develop, not the same quality developmental system. The guys who learn in the d-league and then succeed are limited. For him to have value, he's gotta stick and learn. The Bucks can afford to carry him as a 12th man.

[brwrsfan]

Really, really wanted the Bucks to get Ulis in the second round. Just went 2 picks in front. No idea what they are going to do now, with 2 picks coming up. Payton could be an interesting choice I guess.

 

Also...what must Diamond Stone be thinking right now?? Apparently he interviewed very, very poorly and he wasn't that highly thought of in the first place.

[rwa12]

Would like to see Jackson/Payton

[brwrsfan]

Looks like the Bucks just sold pick #38 to the Warriors. Hate that. High second round pick has to be worth something. At least get a future second from them or something. It looks like we just took straight cash for it.

 

At the very least, they could have taken a European guy and kept him over there for a few years.

[reillymcshane]

Really, really wanted the Bucks to get Ulis in the second round. Just went 2 picks in front. No idea what they are going to do now, with 2 picks coming up. Payton could be an interesting choice I guess.

 

Also...what must Diamond Stone be thinking right now?? Apparently he interviewed very, very poorly and he wasn't that highly thought of in the first place.

Yeah, I saw him drop. I just can't believe some of these guys aren't willing to do school one more year to solidify themselves as a first rounder. Nigel Hayes wasn't stupid - he saw the writing on the wall. He was - at best - a 2nd round pick. Go back to school, work your butt off, try and work your way into the 1st round. It's worth several million dollars if you can do that. Especially for a guy like Stone, who is obviously talented. Might have been really bad advice as well.

[xisxisxis]

Absolutely ****** draft for the Bucks. Brogdon looks like he runs with his feet in cement, way too slow for the NBA. Won't be able to keep up with the 1st step on 95% of the NBA guards. I liked the McCaw pick and then they just give him away to the Warriors. This franchise looked like they were going to shake off the Kohl years, but they appear to think they are smarter than everyone else, except they aren't. Hated the trade for Greivas Vasquez last year and look what happened... he was absolute ****. Maker has a huge upside and they better take the ******* money they got from the warriors and hire a coach just for Maker to work with him 24/7.... bunch of bs....

[nate82]

Wow Stone goes in the 2nd round yeah he is going to regret not staying at least another year in college.

[monkeyman343434]

Extremely disappointed in this draft as well. The team has too many bigs in a league that is trending towards small ball, and what do they do? Pick another big. Also, they don't pick a shooter which is the team's biggest need. And rumors that they're really interested in Dellavedova? This team keeps taking huge steps backwards, yuck yuck yuck.

[Jenkins5]

Extremely disappointed in this draft as well. The team has too many bigs in a league that is trending towards small ball, and what do they do? Pick another big. Also, they don't pick a shooter which is the team's biggest need. And rumors that they're really interested in Dellavedova? This team keeps taking huge steps backwards, yuck yuck yuck.

 

Lol, no sure what else there is to say. We have Monroe, Henson, Plumlee are our only bigs really. Monroe may be traded l, Pumlee is RFA and Henson will never average over 18-20 minutes a game. So we have too many Bigs? Also you argument is useless because Maker with a little bulk is absolutely perfect for the new small ball NBA area. A 7'0 guy who is athletic, run floor, handle ball, block shots and stretch floor..... Please tell me hoe that doesn't fit?

[Boomer5]

Can we find out how old the guy is? If his is really 19 this is intriguing though quite a reach. If he is 23 this is a joke of a pick.

[Baldkin]

Maker is more than just a big. He's a fluid 7 footer who can handle the ball and shoot. He's also an incredibly intelligent and hard working basketball player.

 

I don't like the pick, but they shot for the moon and I can't blame them for doing that.

 

I also can't wait for him to give halftime interviews.

 

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Thon-Maker-Exclusive-Post-NBA-Draft-Decision-Interview-5417/

 

Do you think [scouts] been able to see the best of what you have to offer as a prospect, or are there specific things you can show them in the pre-draft process that might change their perception about you?

 

I've only been playing this game seriously since January 28, 2011. I still have my train pass to my first practice at Next Level Basketball Australia. The sky is the limit on what I can become and what I can do. In the league you have access 24/7 to the best teachers in the world. All you have to do is listen and work and live in the gym. My routine will be the same everyday no matter the day. Look at Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler. That's just work. Even look at Kobe from when he first got to the league to now. You have to work and love it.

 

With that in mind, what kind of a shooter are you right now?

 

That is a strength of mine. My mindset is that everything is going in. I look at Kristaps Porzingis and I think about how he is used in the NBA. I can do that. He is a mobile big.

 

If you put me in a wide pin down, Iverson cut, stagger double, horns action, or any pinch post action I can score or help my team score. I can hit the trailing three or pick and pop off the ball reversal. I shot a little over 90% from the line over the past two seasons. That's with going to the line about 8 times per game. Making shots consistently in the future won't be a problem. If you consistently work at something with a purpose, you can perfect it.

[superfly]

Can we find out how old the guy is? If his is really 19 this is intriguing though quite a reach. If he is 23 this is a joke of a pick.

 

Because the difference between a 19 year old who hasn't played much basketball and a 23 year old who hasn't played much basketball is so big. Nothing I hate more than the "age" criticisms in cases like this.

 

That said our 2nd rounders are absolute dog ****, Brogdon may never see a Bucks uniform and then you sell the 2nd one...Payton II was right there for the taking as a project PG.

[Bombers]

Thanks for the post with the quotes Baldkin. Kid seems to have the right wits. I hope he can put it together as it could be the steal of the draft.

[fondybrewfan]

Regardless of if Maker ends up being a decent player; he almost certainly won't make this years team any better. They still have not solved their shooting woes and they still don't know what to do with Greg Monroe. Brogdon I like in the 2nd round but he isn't going to be able to replace the production of Bayless most likely. Maker is going to be a non entity this year. Bucks are really banking on Vaughn and Brogdon I guess. There wasn't a real difference maker left at 10 so I guess they swung for the fences.

 

If they really wanted Maker they could have moved down; but I understand there probably weren't to many teams trying to get 10.

[Boomer5]

Can we find out how old the guy is? If his is really 19 this is intriguing though quite a reach. If he is 23 this is a joke of a pick.

 

Because the difference between a 19 year old who hasn't played much basketball and a 23 year old who hasn't played much basketball is so big. Nothing I hate more than the "age" criticisms in cases like this.

 

That said our 2nd rounders are absolute dog ****, Brogdon may never see a Bucks uniform and then you sell the 2nd one...Payton II was right there for the taking as a project PG.

 

His tapes vs Canadian kids are dramatically different if he is 23.

 

This is a real issue as he is raw regardless of age and likely won't see any reasonable court times for years.

 

This was definitely a reach.

[Jenkins5]

And Barack Obama is a Muslim and non citizen... These things get started and spread, doesn't mean they have any merit. Makes no sense for him to lie. He isn't Danny Almonte's dad trying to get edge in little league or a Dominican needed to lie to get signed. Thon didn't even start playing bball until like 11. Didn't realize it was a potential future until 14-15 years old. So one day he was 14 or 15 and he picked up a basketball and then asked his parents to move him & change his age to 11-12 so in 7-8 years I'd stand a better chance to be drafted? I'm sure his basketball career & age was the most important thing when trying to survive & escape a civil war..... All makes sense.....Up until yesterday morning, his age had never been in doubt. Hammond said he is 19, to think the Bucks & NBA didn't do all their home work would be crazy. The NBA went through all his transcripts during process to enter draft. Moreover, his body is still pretty underdeveloped making 19 much more realistic than 23.

[fondybrewfan]

Young is young whether he is 19 or 23. I really don't think that matters at all. The bucks saw an athletically gifted 7 footer who can shoot and run the floor. Why does it matter what age the kid is.

 

Either way his next 2 years will be spent getting stronger. If he can contribute 2 years from now I don't care if he is 21 or 25. Maybe it was a reach at 10; but honestly I don't think I would have been all that excited about any one they picked at that spot. They were all bleh talents that have warts. Maker obviously has a lot of work to do but the ceiling is tremendously high. He how has access to better coaches and better facilities than he has ever had. I'll be rooting for him.

[QuevedosTongue]

Regardless of if Maker ends up being a decent player; he almost certainly won't make this years team any better. They still have not solved their shooting woes and they still don't know what to do with Greg Monroe. Brogdon I like in the 2nd round but he isn't going to be able to replace the production of Bayless most likely. Maker is going to be a non entity this year. Bucks are really banking on Vaughn and Brogdon I guess. There wasn't a real difference maker left at 10 so I guess they swung for the fences.

 

If they really wanted Maker they could have moved down; but I understand there probably weren't to many teams trying to get 10.

 

Pretty sure the team as currently composed is not the team that will take the floor on opening night in November. The Bucks will pick up a couple FAs, Monroe or Henson may yet be moved, Plumlee is a RFA and might not be back. Lots of moves left and hopefully they will be able to pick up a couple of shooters in said moves.

[patrickgpe]

Young is young whether he is 19 or 23. I really don't think that matters at all. The bucks saw an athletically gifted 7 footer who can shoot and run the floor. Why does it matter what age the kid is.

the videos of him in high school are much more impressive if he is the same age as those other kids instead of 4 years older. I think because he never played college ball, people are freaking out because there is so many questions on him. This pick will either be the best one in the draft or a complete disaster.

[QuevedosTongue]

Young is young whether he is 19 or 23. I really don't think that matters at all. The bucks saw an athletically gifted 7 footer who can shoot and run the floor. Why does it matter what age the kid is.

the videos of him in high school are much more impressive if he is the same age as those other kids instead of 4 years older. I think because he never played college ball, people are freaking out because there is so many questions on him. This pick will either be the best one in the draft or a complete disaster.

 

I couldn't agree more that I don't think there is any middle ground with this pick. 2 years from now people are either going to be talking about what an amazing pick John Hammond made, or Hammond will be leaving in disgrace.

[fondybrewfan]

So it is basically Giannis 2.0. Giannis was incredibly risky; however it was apparent almost immediately in his first season that he had the talent and capability. With Maker I am not sure he will see the floor much at all this upcoming season. Especially if the Bucks have plans on competing.

 

That being said it would be awesome to have a lineup of Giannis, Middleton, Parker, Maker and ? when the new arena opens. That would be pretty fun if it all works out.

 

Agreed that the roster still has a lot of work to do before the start of the season; hopefully Hammond can work some magic with FA signings and/or trades. He has been much better trading for talent than signing it.

[patrickgpe]

So it is basically Giannis 2.0. Giannis was incredibly risky; however it was apparent almost immediately in his first season that he had the talent and capability. With Maker I am not sure he will see the floor much at all this upcoming season. Especially if the Bucks have plans on competing.

Don't forget that last year they drafted the youngest person in the draft in Vaughn, once Kohl left, this seems to be the bucks / Kidd's / Hammond's MO, to focus solely on upside.

 

While it makes sense because Milwaukee will never get a KD as a free agent, so they need to develop them through the draft and then figure out how to retain them, i just wish once in a while they went for a more sure thing.

[fondybrewfan]

At least with the salary cap the way it they have a decent shot of retaining any top flight talent that they develop (Such as Giannis). It would suck to draft guys like Maker, Vaughn, Giannis, Parker etc and lose them little by little because they get to expensive. There is a reasonable chance that Milwaukee can keep the entire core around for a number of years (If those players actually want to stay).