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Matt Dominguez claimed and optioned; Wei-Chung Wang designated for assignment (Wang outrighted; post 100)


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the third baseman was a waiver claim from the astros. any team can claim wang and keep him optioned in the minors for the rest of this year and two more seasons--all it costs is a spot on their 40-man roster.
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Why? Dominguez is horrendous. There are several players on the 40 man that I would get rid of before Wang. Many on the major league team. Another short-sighted move.

 

We spent almost a year with Wang in the majors so we could keep him as a development piece and then only allowed him to develop for two months in the minors before tossing him to the curb.

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Dominguez I get with our lack of depth at 3B. Why DFA Wang though? There is no way he makes it through waivers. Now someone is going to pick him up and he will start 20 games a year for them 3 or 4 years down the road. Ugh.
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A calculated gamble, if Wang clears then the Brewers get more time to develop him. If he doesn't then another team will be forced to play him at the big league level in 2018 when he is not ready again or he will just be DFA again. Now the Brewers have somebody to play third during the rebuild and control through at least 2019.
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I honestly don't see the big deal with this. Wang only has two options left and he isn't anywhere near two years away from being major league ready. So we'd end up having to carry him two years on the 40 man then carry him on the 25 man roster even though he would not be ready or expose him to waivers at that point. That would essentially mean we carried and trained someone else's pitcher for a couple years only to lose him a year or so from being useful. By exposing him to waivers now we save the hassle and probably have a better chance of keeping him than if we do it two years from now. If we lose him then at least they have to keep him on the 40 man and decide if they want to keep him on the 25 man roster two years from now even if he isn't ready.
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I get any breathing 3B candidate. Dominguez was at one time a decent player with some potential.

 

Wang has shown nothing. But at 23, and LH, the Brewers must know something we dont to think he will make it past waivers.

 

Whenever there is a stunning move like this with no obvious reason (he sucked but so does most of our system), I wonder if there isnt off the field/character issues?

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Why? Dominguez is horrendous. There are several players on the 40 man that I would get rid of before Wang. Many on the major league team. Another short-sighted move.

 

We spent almost a year with Wang in the majors so we could keep him as a development piece and then only allowed him to develop for two months in the minors before tossing him to the curb.

 

beside Schafer, there is noone else i would DFA over Wang. I don't get everyone's love affair with him, he is 23 and has a 5.93 ERA, with only 45 K's in 60 innings in high A ball. Thats not even a prospect.

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The whole Wang experiment was a waste. Who knows if it cost the team games last year.

 

Nice to see them dump Wang and bring in a guy who at one time was seen as something special, at a position of extreme need.

 

I doubt it. He was the mop up man to begin with so it wasn't like anyone they had in his place was going to be helping us win a particular game. Rob Wooten was the guy who would have sat on the bench and did that. Doubt he was going to come in and help us win a game we wouldn't have won anyway.

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The whole Wang experiment was a waste. Who knows if it cost the team games last year.

 

Nice to see them dump Wang and bring in a guy who at one time was seen as something special, at a position of extreme need.

 

Agree 100% with this. Wang was not a "mop-up" guy. Even mop-up guys can pitch effectively once in a while and be trusted to pitch an inning or two in an extra inning game. A "mop-up" guy can at least eat up innings. Wang pitched a measly 17.1 innings over the course of 4 months because he was completely ineffective, which meant other pitchers had to pitch more innings than they normally would have. There is no way to measure the effect this had on the pitching staff or how many possible games this may have cost the team.

 

Way overrated imho and I would be very surprised if he ever sniffs the majors again in his career (which will probably be a short one).

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If we keep Wang, when would he have to be added to the 40 man roster again? Would we be able to keep him next year but not put him on the 40 man roster?

 

If he clears waivers no he would not need to be added to the 40 man, but then he'd be eligible to be taken in the Rule 5 draft.

 

Wang was one 1 of 2 left handed starting pitchers currently in the system that can work in the low 90s with regularity, it's way too early for people to be giving up on him considering his lack of experience. Yes we have Kirby coming, but he likely won't work as a starter until next season and has control issues himself.

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I don't mind the Dominguez pickup, worth a shot. The DFA of Wang is just strange. There must be something else about Wang I don't know. All the time and effort last year to keep him in the system and just drop him this year? What irritates me the most is you mean to tell me that Broxton, Cotts, Centeno, Perez, Peterson or Schafer have a future with this team? I know Wang is not going to be the next Koufax, but come on, 1 year and DM sees him as more expendable

than the others I listed above? Melvin needs to be drug tested, the more I think about this, the iller I get!

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Such an immensely flawed player.

 

Yes, Dominguez has some power, but he's a bad hitter. Always has been - even in the minor leagues (he has a .699 OPS for his career at AAA, including .660 this year).

 

He's got 4 walks on 188 plate appearances - at Fresno. Is this the best we could do?

 

Wang wasn't anything special, but at least he had some sort of promise. Why not just get rid of Cotts? It's not like he's part of the future. Perhaps the team just doesn't see anything in Wang. It can understand that. But it seems too early to give up on the guy - especially when there are other players who just don't have a future on the club. Don't get it.

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If we keep Wang, when would he have to be added to the 40 man roster again? Would we be able to keep him next year but not put him on the 40 man roster?

 

If he clears waivers no he would not need to be added to the 40 man, but then he'd be eligible to be taken in the Rule 5 draft.

 

Wang was one 1 of 2 left handed starting pitchers currently in the system that can work in the low 90s with regularity, it's way too early for people to be giving up on him considering his lack of experience. Yes we have Kirby coming, but he likely won't work as a starter until next season and has control issues himself.

So we lose him now or place him back on the 40 man roster in the winter gaining nothing or we lose him in the rule 5 draft(possibly in the minor league portion where the team would not have to keep him in the majors) or less likely he does not get picked up anywhere. I can't believe he was the worst player on the 40 man roster.

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Such an immensely flawed player.

 

Yes, Dominguez has some power, but he's a bad hitter. Always has been - even in the minor leagues (he has a .699 OPS for his career at AAA, including .660 this year).

 

He's got 4 walks on 188 plate appearances - at Fresno. Is this the best we could do?

 

Wang wasn't anything special, but at least he had some sort of promise. Why not just get rid of Cotts? It's not like he's part of the future. Perhaps the team just doesn't see anything in Wang. It can understand that. But it seems too early to give up on the guy - especially when there are other players who just don't have a future on the club. Don't get it.

 

I'm confused what the problem is. I don't think we have another 3B that is close to MLB that Dominguez will take the position of? What's the problem? This is basically a 'let's hope a change of scenery helps him' type move.

 

As far as Wang.. meh.

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What a terrible move if Wang is lost for essentially nothing. Dominguez brings pretty much nothing to the table. He's a younger Mark Reynolds minus the power. In terms of value to the franchise over the next 3 years Wang>>>>>>Dominguez. Like I posted in the minor league thread about him, some posters just continue to feel like Wang's presence single handedly cost the team the playoffs last year and can't get past it.
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If we keep Wang, when would he have to be added to the 40 man roster again? Would we be able to keep him next year but not put him on the 40 man roster?

 

If he clears waivers no he would not need to be added to the 40 man, but then he'd be eligible to be taken in the Rule 5 draft.

 

Wang was one 1 of 2 left handed starting pitchers currently in the system that can work in the low 90s with regularity, it's way too early for people to be giving up on him considering his lack of experience. Yes we have Kirby coming, but he likely won't work as a starter until next season and has control issues himself.

 

You don't need 90s to be an effective lefty....Brent Suter is never talked about and maybe he should.

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What a terrible move if Wang is lost for essentially nothing. Dominguez brings pretty much nothing to the table. He's a younger Mark Reynolds minus the power. In terms of value to the franchise over the next 3 years Wang>>>>>>Dominguez. Like I posted in the minor league thread about him, some posters just continue to feel like Wang's presence single handedly cost the team the playoffs last year and can't get past it.

 

Dominguez blows Mark Reynolds out of the water defensively. Absolutely blows him out of the water. I tracked this kid for three years before he reached the Majors. He was being touted as a Gold Glove caliber third baseman with plus power.

 

He's never reached his potential, but let's face it, he's better than anything we have in the minors right now that could contribute at the Major League level. That's how sad our system has become.

 

The DFA of Wang should be the last straw in Melvin's coffin. I've been done with him for a while, but this move, keeping him on the 40 man roster when he brought absolutely nothing to the team (and I do mean NOTHING), only to drop him the next year, is a big blinking sign that our General Manager is a clueless dolt that I wouldn't trust to run a Dairy Queen, let alone a Major League Baseball franchise. He's failed miserably at the Major League level. In three decades, none of his teams have reached the World Series. That's where we hope to one day get to, right? With Melvin at the helm, all we are doing is pushing the calendar back more. Melvin's continued employment by the Brewers only extends out this terrible trend further.

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