We're Number Five! We're Number Five! - The 2016 MLB Draft Thread

[3and2Fastball]

Control issues? The kid is 17 years old throwing 102 mph!!! His changeup is 90 mph.....I would roll the dice that the Brewers can teach him control

[MrTPlush]

Personally I think Riley Pint will end up in the bullpen so I won't be too sad when a team picks him before us. He has the stuff the be the best reliever in the game though if the rotation doesn't work out. I am sure one of the 4 teams in front of us will take that gamble with a floor so high.

[paul253]

Control issues? The kid is 17 years old throwing 102 mph!!

 

What difference does it make if he throws 102 or 140 if he can't throw strikes? Beside, I highly doubt he'll be throwing that hard when he turns pro. In order to learn control he'll have to take something off. Don't get me wrong. I won't be upset if he's our pick. I'm just a little skeptical of these super hard throwing little ability to control it pitchers.

[sfl2hnq17]

I'm on the Lowe bandwagon at number 5. Colby, I'd be curious what you think of Bachar at UW-Whitewater. Read some good reports about him.

[Mass Haas]

Via the3rdmanin.com:

 

Q&A with MLB.com’s Jim Callis

 

Good stuff...

[TheCrew07]

I'm on the Lowe bandwagon at number 5. Colby, I'd be curious what you think of Bachar at UW-Whitewater. Read some good reports about him.

 

UWW has more than just Bachar, that's about as interesting a pitching staff as D3 gets.

[sfl2hnq17]

I'm on the Lowe bandwagon at number 5. Colby, I'd be curious what you think of Bachar at UW-Whitewater. Read some good reports about him.

 

UWW has more than just Bachar, that's about as interesting a pitching staff as D3 gets.

 

I only brought him up because I read he was recognized as the best player in his summer league by BA and the write-up on his stuff was intriguing.

[MrTPlush]

Bachar is widely considered a borderline Top 100 prospect for the draft.

[sfl2hnq17]

Thanks for the info TPlush. He'd be great in the third round for us then.

[colbyjack]

Yes, Pint was 97-102 in a bullpen session last week. That puts him in the conversation for #1 overall and definitely someone that needs to be on the Brewers radar if he's available. Groome is still the better, more polished prospect IMO.

 

This year's draft is going to have some really good players. There's a couple of good prep arms, and a handful of decent college ones, and then a really deep pool of position players at both the college and HS levels. The college class is full of outfielders (not many middle infielders like there were last year), but the HS class makes up for that.

 

I'm not as high on Bachar as BA is/was (I ranked him 13th in the Northwoods League). Here's what I wrote about him:

 

"Also a member of the 2014 NCAA Division III National Championship Wisconsin-Whitewater football team as a kicker, Bachar is a good overall athlete that shows good balance on the mound and repeats his mechanics well. He generates easy heat from his 6-foot-3, 210-pound frame, pounding the strike zone with 91-93 mph fastballs while mixing in a low-80s changeup and upper-70s breaking ball. Bachar works quickly, and while he may be maxed out physically his presence and ability to change speeds and throw strikes makes up for what he lacks in future projection. He posted similar numbers this summer for the Chinooks (6-3, 2.47 ERA, 63-to-19 strikeout-to-walk ratio in 65 2/3 innings) as he did during the spring for the Warhawks (7-1, 2.24 ERA, 46-to-9 in 60 1/3)."

 

So he's definitely a good arm, but I'm not so sure I'd call him a borderline top 100 prospect (and certainly not "widely considered" -- I know some teams aren't as high as him as others), unless his velo sees a bump this spring. I like Nate Brown, a righty from Arrowhead HS (also the Warhawks) who is closer to being a top 100 overall prospect, better than Bachar.

[ctmyers]

Would Cal Quantrill be a possibility at 1.5? Getting one of Groom, Puk, Pint would be ideal imo, rather than the OF's. If Hansen flames out, is post-tj Quantrill worthy of the 4th SP off the board?

[sfl2hnq17]

Based on what I have read, I have no problem with Quantrill at 1.5 at all.

[reillymcshane]

I just have to say it's going to be fun tracking these young kids for the draft this year. I appreciate all the updates and thoughts that people post. I don't follow amateur baseball, so it's fun to watch these conversations. Thanks.

[The3rdManIn.com]

I've been interviewing and writing profiles on a lot of the top draft prospects in this year's class. Feel free to check them out if you're interested at http://www.the3rdmanin.com

 

Thanks!

[Jenkins5]

I remember Verlander couldn't control his 100mph arm at all and the Tigers still took the gamble..... Paid off well. Your buying lottery tickets. No such thing as a sure thing, any of the top 4 could easily bust or be injury plagued. Pint is most raw and has pitched by far the least. He is s 2-3 sport stud, who I think is an outstanding ball player. Parents never really let him put the wear & tear on his arm that most do. Very limited showcases & code games I believe. Has the arm you die for, it's very fresh, never had spent much time just focusing and being coached as to how to pitch. Groom, Hansen, Puk all taken already..... Pint or Lowe are way to go, maybe Perez

[adambr2]

I think it'll be Pint. But that's just a hunch. I see his signability as a question mark though, which scares me.

[clancyphile]

I like Buddy Reed.

 

Five-tool center fielder, looks like he will advance quickly.

[Jenkins5]

I like Buddy Reed.

 

Five-tool center fielder, looks like he will advance quickly.

 

Has a ton of potential to be great but a big spring for him. Still a lot of questions about his bat and he will hit enough as he advances. He may take a little longer to develop as compared to Ray who appears to be pretty polished already. I don't prefer an OF at 5 but if that's the way the board falls, I'd be okay with that

[sfl2hnq17]

My problem with Reed, and maybe it's not fair, is that when I read his scouting report I think Roache.

[MrTPlush]

I think it'll be Pint. But that's just a hunch. I see his signability as a question mark though, which scares me.

 

I am hoping Hansen personally, but regardless I don't think their ability to sign Pint or not will effect their decision. I also think if he really does want to pass up $5mil he will make that known well in advance to draft day. It would be very very unprofessional of him not to. I don't think he passes up the money if drafted Top 5 though...it just won't happen. I know he says how much he wants to play college ball, but it is all just a show. Much like an elite freshman in NCAAB talking about if they are returning next year...no they are leaving. I think the Brewers are pretty safe drafting him at #5...anything past that may be concerning for a team though.

[Jenkins5]

My problem with Reed, and maybe it's not fair, is that when I read his scouting report I think Roache.

 

I curious as to how? Imo there is not much similarities between the two at all outside of both had questionable hit tool. Outside of that, no aspects of their game come close to lining up. It is like comparing Gomez to Khris Davis because both don't have an outstanding approach to the plate. Reed if he proves his hit tool and contact are for real, he is a legit 5 tool stud who can do everything. Roache from day one was a one tool guy who got drafted based on his pure power stroke.

[sfl2hnq17]

I think I got scared off by the hit tool and I had to go back and re-read the reports about Reed. I guess the comparison wasn't fair but I don't like an OF with a questionable hit tool.

[clancyphile]

My problem with Reed, and maybe it's not fair, is that when I read his scouting report I think Roache.

 

I curious as to how? Imo there is not much similarities between the two at all outside of both had questionable hit tool. Outside of that, no aspects of their game come close to lining up. It is like comparing Gomez to Khris Davis because both don't have an outstanding approach to the plate. Reed if he proves his hit tool and contact are for real, he is a legit 5 tool stud who can do everything. Roache from day one was a one tool guy who got drafted based on his pure power stroke.

 

This report seems to only question the power (2/5). The contact is 3/5.

http://www.fueledbysports.com/buddy-reed-scouting-report/

 

Honestly, my vibe from him is a switch-hitting Carlos Gomez. Not bad, but maybe the fact he went to college will help him develop that hit tool.

[MrTPlush]

Would Cal Quantrill be a possibility at 1.5? Getting one of Groom, Puk, Pint would be ideal imo, rather than the OF's. If Hansen flames out, is post-tj Quantrill worthy of the 4th SP off the board?

 

No way to know that at this point. Right now he would be a serious reach and big health risk.However if he comes back strong he could be worthy of a Top 10 pi and possibly someone we reach on to save some pool money.

 

Hard to put any value on him before he pitches this Spring. I wouldn't take him over any of the Big 4.

 

Regardless I think we will be fine. I bet a couple offensive players shoot up boards and if we really want to draft an ace type pitcher we will have that chance. If all the Big 4 pitchers get drafted before us I guess we will have one solid bat to draft. Quantrill just seems like a reach at #5.

[QuevedosTongue]

I think it'll be Pint. But that's just a hunch. I see his signability as a question mark though, which scares me.

 

I am hoping Hansen personally, but regardless I don't think their ability to sign Pint or not will effect their decision. I also think if he really does want to pass up $5mil he will make that known well in advance to draft day. It would be very very unprofessional of him not to. I don't think he passes up the money if drafted Top 5 though...it just won't happen. I know he says how much he wants to play college ball, but it is all just a show. Much like an elite freshman in NCAAB talking about if they are returning next year...no they are leaving. I think the Brewers are pretty safe drafting him at #5...anything past that may be concerning for a team though.

 

I would have agreed on Hansen 2 weeks ago, but he looks like a mess so far, with serious control problems and possible injury issues. I can't imagine he's on their radar at #5 right now, although that could obviously change if he shows his 1st 2 outings were an aberration.