We're Number Five! We're Number Five! - The 2016 MLB Draft Thread

[Warning Track Power]

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this draft. I'm feeling as though we're going to wind up with an OF or an under slot guy when I think we need a high end pitcher. I believe Puk Pint or Groome will be there and I believe we should take whichever one is. With a better than expected team so far this season I don't think we can count on getting a high enough draft pick next year to get a front end starting prospect. This may be our best shot.

Second this...with the Brewers rebuilding, I think a lottery pick at #5 like Groome or Pint is the way to go. I will be upset if we take Perez if for no other reason than the Brewers always seem to find hitting and will never be able to acquire impact pitching via FA. The draft is the only way they can truly rebuild the staff. If Groome or Pint don't pan out and Perez becomes the next Correa, then so be it.

[MilwaukeeBeers]

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this draft. I'm feeling as though we're going to wind up with an OF or an under slot guy when I think we need a high end pitcher. I believe Puk Pint or Groome will be there and I believe we should take whichever one is. With a better than expected team so far this season I don't think we can count on getting a high enough draft pick next year to get a front end starting prospect. This may be our best shot.

Second this...with the Brewers rebuilding, I think a lottery pick at #5 like Groome or Pint is the way to go. I will be upset if we take Perez if for no other reason than the Brewers always seem to find hitting and will never be able to acquire impact pitching via FA. The draft is the only way they can truly rebuild the staff. If Groome or Pint don't pan out and Perez becomes the next Correa, then so be it.

You go BPA regardless of position when in the midst of a rebuild.

[brewcrewdue80]

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this draft. I'm feeling as though we're going to wind up with an OF or an under slot guy when I think we need a high end pitcher. I believe Puk Pint or Groome will be there and I believe we should take whichever one is. With a better than expected team so far this season I don't think we can count on getting a high enough draft pick next year to get a front end starting prospect. This may be our best shot.

Second this...with the Brewers rebuilding, I think a lottery pick at #5 like Groome or Pint is the way to go. I will be upset if we take Perez if for no other reason than the Brewers always seem to find hitting and will never be able to acquire impact pitching via FA. The draft is the only way they can truly rebuild the staff. If Groome or Pint don't pan out and Perez becomes the next Correa, then so be it.

You go BPA regardless of position when in the midst of a rebuild.

 

Then I'd expect Groome to be the BPA over Perez. He's probably BPA on many teams' overall boards.

[nate82]

My top 3 are Groome Perez and Rutherford.

 

The gap between Perez and Rutherford is rather large.

[brewmann04]

I agree since the Crew will never be able to sign a top Fa pitcher they must not pass on a top pitcher if he there with the 5th pick.

[DougJonesChangeUp]

I agree since the Crew will never be able to sign a top Fa pitcher they must not pass on a top pitcher if he there with the 5th pick.

 

Free agency isn't the only way to acquire a top of the line pitcher.

[SRB]

I've changed my preference and am all in on Blake Rutherford. He seems to me like the most likely guy where a few years from now everyone looks back and wonders how he was not 1-1, not just because of success but also because it was all so obvious at the time.

[narwhalattack]

I agree since the Crew will never be able to sign a top Fa pitcher they must not pass on a top pitcher if he there with the 5th pick.

 

Free agency isn't the only way to acquire a top of the line pitcher.

 

It's difficult in other methods as well. Teams covet top-tier pitching prospects and the Brewers will have to give up a boatload just to get one. With the international FA's they may be hogged by other teams, not to mention that they're also incredibly volatile.

[wichmae]

I've changed my preference and am all in on Blake Rutherford. He seems to me like the most likely guy where a few years from now everyone looks back and wonders how he was not 1-1, not just because of success but also because it was all so obvious at the time.

Im close on Rutherford. Im hoping Lewis slips to us but Rutherford is a nice consolation. I just feel like he's our guy.

[beekay414]

I'm fine with any one of Rutherford, Pint, Groome, Perez or even Zack Collins. Reason being on Collins is because he'd probably save us a ton of money from the #5 slot and would allow us another impact draft pick in the 2nd. Either route we take, I'm fine with.

[LouisEly]

If all goes well, here is what I would like to see:

 

1 (#5): any of Groome, Puk, Pint, or Lowe

2 (#46): Ben Rortvedt, John Duplantier, Lucas Erceg (can Joe Rizzo move to catcher?)

2b (#75): Hunter Bishop, Jameson Fisher, Ben Bowden

3 (#82): Zack Brown, Jesus Luzardo, Matt Krook

4 (#111): Logan Ice, Keegan Akin, Brigham Hill

[brewcrewdue80]

So just read a MLB.com article. Groome has changed his commitment from Vandy to a Juco school in FL. It also said his camp is seeking minimum of 4million in a signing. I'll go find this little tidbit to get it straight.

 

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/182564040/draft-buzz-what-callis-and-mayo-are-hearing

 

Fwiw: the Brewers #5 pick comes with 4.3+million to work with.

Oak at 6 just over 4million. So Groome is seeking top 6 in money. If he isn't selected by #6 would expect him not getting drafted at all. Since this move allows him to enter draft next year if he wanted.

[Eye Black]

So just read a MLB.com article. Groome has changed his commitment from Vandy to a Juco school in FL. It also said his camp is seeking minimum of 4million in a signing. I'll go find this little tidbit to get it straight.

 

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/182564040/draft-buzz-what-callis-and-mayo-are-hearing

 

Fwiw: the Brewers #5 pick comes with 4.3+million to work with.

Oak at 6 just over 4million. So Groome is seeking top 6 in money. If he isn't selected by #6 would expect him not getting drafted at all. Since this move allows him to enter draft next year if he wanted.

Thanks for sharing, obviously a significant leverage move on the part of Groome's camp. I have to think if he made that move than there is likely no current deal worked out with a team (or at least wasn't when he made the switch).

 

The $4 million demand doesn't necessarily mean he has to be selected in the top six. Remember, the Phillies, Braves, Reds, and Padres are all working with pools in the $13 million range. The Padres could take Groome at #8 ($3.6 million slot) and easily find the extra money with an under slot signing at one of their next selections. Also the Phillies, Reds, and Braves are all likely to sign their first selections for below slot value, and as the article points out the Braves are considering Ian Anderson who they would be able to sign for around $3.5 million under slot (he would sign for $3 million of a $6.5 million slot). It would only take one other under slot signing among their many picks to get to the $4 million number for Groome if they select him later down the draft board.

[MrTPlush]

One guy I wouldn't mind seeing with our second or third pick...Alec Hansen. His stuff is ridiculously good and something I'd love to add to the system. Yes I realize there are a ton of red flags(control, delivery), but heck at #44 or in the 2B round why not take the risk? It would be an interesting pick. Even more so if we don't take a pitcher at #5

[brewmann04]

MR T Plush I would love to see them go with two arms in the first two rounds and would like a Pitcher if he there at 5

[And That]

John Sickles' mock draft has the Brewers taking Riley Pint.

 

Minor League Ball also did a community 4 round (!) mock draft. They agree with Sickles on the Pint pick, and also had the Brewers taking:

 

2. Anfernee Grier, OF, Auburn

CBB. Matt Krook, LHP, U of Oregon

3. Nick Lodolo, LHP, California HS

4. Nick Quintana, INF, Nevada HS

 

Grier is one of fastest players in the draft and a plus defender in CF to boot. Krook is a big (6'3) lefty with a low-90s fastball and a curve with some inconsistency in his mechanics. Lodolo is an even bigger (6'6) lefty, also with a low-90s fastball and a curve with some inconsistency in his mechanics. Quintana has a big arm, would probably start out at SS, and has some power as well - going by the picture, last name, and place of residence I also believe he's the younger brother of Brewers 2012 3rd round pick (and now a Brave farmhhand) Zach Quintana.

[brewcrewdue80]

John Sickles' mock draft has the Brewers taking Riley Pint.

 

Minor League Ball also did a community 4 round (!) mock draft. They agree with Sickles on the Pint pick, and also had the Brewers taking:

 

2. Anfernee Grier, OF, Auburn

CBB. Matt Krook, LHP, U of Oregon

3. Nick Lodolo, LHP, California HS

4. Nick Quintana, INF, Nevada HS

 

Grier is one of fastest players in the draft and a plus defender in CF to boot. Krook is a big (6'3) lefty with a low-90s fastball and a curve with some inconsistency in his mechanics. Lodolo is an even bigger (6'6) lefty, also with a low-90s fastball and a curve with some inconsistency in his mechanics. Quintana has a big arm, would probably start out at SS, and has some power as well - going by the picture, last name, and place of residence I also believe he's the younger brother of Brewers 2012 3rd round pick (and now a Brave farmhhand) Zach Quintana.

 

That's Awesome and seems like a great draft top 5 overall. MLB's draft says this on Quintana

 

A member of the U.S. 18 and under national team that won gold in Japan last September, Quintana had a monster senior season that saw him shatter his school's home run record, previously held by his brother. While there is some swing and miss to his game, many scouts love Quintana's explosive bat speed, which should translate to continued power as a pro. A well below-average runner, no one projects Quintana to stay at shortstop, his high school position. Some see an offensive-minded second baseman in the future and some teams have asked Quintana to work out behind the plate, where his above-average arm could work well.

 

Quintana gets extremely high marks for his makeup and he's been willingly accommodating team's requests to try different positions. That, plus his bat, are what could get him off the board in the first three or four rounds.

 

 

The tie in of being a Catcher is interesting to potentially find in someone that is currently SS for HS.

Lodolo reads as someone that I'd think be a tough signing. The projectables for 6'6" at his age, he could begin throwing upper 90s at any month now and boom you have a 1st rounder.

Krook seems like a sneaky good pick, I wonder what he would price himself at. Grier. Would he be a Slot value guy? Or under slot at that choice? Picking a speedy OF with the 2nd rd choice I wouldn't be all to high on. Just another repeat of a system filled with that kind of types. Just on read, I'd probably flip Lodolo and Grier in terms of slot value. So to get the higher ceiling Lodolo.

[Austin Tatious]

Sickles' mock draft looks very similar to our consensus from the other thread.

[MrTPlush]

I personally want to see either Groome or Pint if they are available just because I don't think we can get that kind of upside in a Lucroy trade. We need to try and get impact/top of the rotation pitchers into the system. If we don't we are going to be spending good prospects down the road to get one.

 

In the end I guess I don't care as long as Stearns obtains some elite pitching. However if we go through the draft and trade Lucroy without getting that elite pitching I am going to be a bit disappointed

[Jenkins5]

Groome & Pint are my top 2 hopes as well. I personally love Garrett. To me he is safer than both the other two but doesn't mean he doesn't have a ceiling that's high. Kid is lefty, great frame, cleaner mechanics, could easily have velocity jump over next few years, and could under-slot a bit. Not saying he should be our choice but I'd have no problem with him. Garrett & Lowe are my top 2 favorite sleeper picks.

 

Krooks in 3rd round or 2 comp would be outstanding pick. Was considered Top 10-20 pick during winter following tommy John last year. Came out and still has his same elite lefty stuff.... He just lost all ability to throw a strike. BB/9 is around 9 or 10. Get him back to throwing strikes & you could have something special on our hands. No real risk.

[wichmae]

Sounds like Manuel thinks Groome falls to the teens and Perez may slip out of the first entirely.

[3and2Fastball]

I personally want to see either Groome or Pint if they are available just because I don't think we can get that kind of upside in a Lucroy trade. We need to try and get impact/top of the rotation pitchers into the system. If we don't we are going to be spending good prospects down the road to get one.

 

In the end I guess I don't care as long as Stearns obtains some elite pitching. However if we go through the draft and trade Lucroy without getting that elite pitching I am going to be a bit disappointed

 

Agreed on all that. I've been rooting for Pint all along and haven't wavered. There is risk with a HS kid who throws that hard but there is high upside. We need that high upside

[reillymcshane]

Can you really pass on a Pint for the Brewers?

 

The marketing opportunities are endless.

[markedman5]

[reillymcshane]

Wow. That's going to kill Perez. I guess the next question is 'what kind of drug test' did he fail.

 

If it's smoking pot, teams might be willing to forgive and forget. If it's PEDs, that's gotta scare people. I guess that depends on the kind of PED. There are so many.