We're Number Five! We're Number Five! - The 2016 MLB Draft Thread

[brewcrewdue80]

Watched a few other Delvin Perez vids. So far everything is on the pull side on contact. One vid he hits a triple vid time would be about 12secs contact to slide in to 3b. I would think that is fast.

The prospect primer link he ran 60 at 6.53sec. The podcast link eye black posted I think I heard them say he recently was timed at 6.2secs.

 

He's young for this draft class at 6'3" The size and age are what I like. The only position player I said earlier I'd be okay with taking.

 

Maybe the podcast and for sure #5 pick of the Brewers, compared to past known knowledge of Brewers plans, is a smokescreen for 1 of the other 4 teams to want to select him hearing the Brewers certainty. And one of the 3 SPs fall to Milwaukee when a team passes on Pint or Groome.

 

I've read the Perez has a play at #1 much like Correa did for Houston, with Perez's non college commitment, he's a good under slot signing for Philly who then nabs a HS Arm that falls.

What's tough to me is there are 4 players I'd want and we pick 5. So there's that 20% chance he won't be there. I just hope that the team doesn't select someone else with one of the 4 available to pick.

[patrickgpe]

What's tough to me is there are 4 players I'd want and we pick 5

 

 

are you referring to Puk, Pint, Groome, and Perez? just wondering

[splitterpfj]

Top Ten Picks Awards...

 

Player Most Likely to Sneak In - Matt Manning

If the Brewers Surprise Everyone Here - Joshua Lowe, 3B

If a College Guy Sneaks In - Zack Collins

If I Had to Pick a Longshot to Sneak In - Jordan Sheffield

My Favorite Guy Who Won't Make It In - Gavin Lux, SS, Kenosha, WI

[brewcrewdue80]

What's tough to me is there are 4 players I'd want and we pick 5

 

 

are you referring to Puk, Pint, Groome, and Perez? just wondering

 

Yes. Though If I had to list them I'd be 1a Pint 1b Groome 3 Puk and 4 Perez. My preferential of HS over College.

[And That]

http://dcprosportsreport.com/MLBMocks.htm

 

For all of the mock drafts since the beginning of April, the Brewers' spread of players is as follows:

 

Delvin Perez: 8

Jason Groome: 3

Riley Pint: 3

Corey Ray: 3

Kyle Lewis: 2

A.J. Puk: 2

Blake Rutherford: 1

Updated for all mocks since the beginning of May:

Delvin Perez: 6

Riley Pint: 4

Jason Groome: 3

Kyle Lewis: 3

Corey Ray: 3

Mickey Moniak: 1

Blake Rutherford: 1

Nick Senzel: 1

[splitterpfj]

I know it's kind of aggravating when the top of the draft is a fluid as this one, (AKA:No Bryce Harper), but it's also kind of fun.

 

You can throw out any "Brewers Tendencies", because the Director of Scouting is only in his second year, and the GM is in his first - any perceived patterns were established by people who will not have input this time around. I think the Brewers will get a shot at Groome or Pint, I do not think all three of the top arms will go in the first four spots.

 

If that happens, leaving the Brewers with at least one of the pitchers in the mix with both high school and college bats, we'll all learn something about the new braintrust. Your guess is as good as mine, but since i think the organization needs more elite talent, more than an elite pitcher, I won't be disappointed by the pick unless they try to get cute with it to save money, etc.

 

A pick in the top five is something this team hasn't had in a very long time, now is not the time to play games.

[MrTPlush]

If we don't go pitcher I would love to see us nab Delvin Perez. I think he oozes serious offensive talent and he is a guy who can stay at SS. The speed would be awesome to have too. I am not really concerned about the character issues to be honest. The way I look at it he will have many years in the minors to mature up and hopefully it won't effect his performance. It isn't like he is Puig and he has to learn at the MLB level. Another bonus is we should be able to save some of our bonus pool with an underslot bonus.

 

My only real concern with Perez is the tendency to pull the ball like many have mentioned. It comes down to whether or not they think they can teach him to be less of a pull hitter.

[reillymcshane]

Please note that our Community Top 10 draft is now underway.

 

viewforum.php?f=69

 

You have until the EOD on Wednesday, May 25, to make your selection for the #1 in the draft.

[Austin Tatious]

Delvin Perez "almost a virtual lock" to go at #5 to the Brewers? The Brewers heavy interest in Perez "the worst kept secret in the industry"?

 

That is the case according to 2080 Baseball's CJ Wittmann and Perfect Game's Brian Sakowski on the most recent episode of 2080 Baseball's The Scale Podcast. Go to the 13:00 minute mark and listen from there.

 

Also interesting they mention that Perez was reported to have run a 6.2 60-yard dash at a showcase in Puerto Rico recently.

 

Thanks for the heads up about the podcast. Yes, they seemed very confident about the Brewers being all over Perez. I hope there is some misdirection by the leaks from the Milwaukee scouts, because I strongly prefer Puk, Pint, or Groome. Sure, you can attack any of the pitchers for being a risk, but Perez is also a huge projection right now.

 

With Perez, you see a speedy athlete who is rangy. But he is only 17 and who knows what kind of hitter he ends up being. To take an extreme example, Hector Gomez was a well regarded, rangy kid ten years ago. He could never hit well enough in the bigs and is now in Korea. If there is a thought that Perez is less of a risk, well he may only end up being a fringe player for all we know. My point is not that Perez will be terrible, just that he is a risk no different than a pitcher is a risk, except that the pitchers could lead to the ultimate reward of an ace starter.

 

If Puk, Pint, and Groome are all gone by 5, which there are virtually no projections predicting, then I would agree that Perez should be a strong consideration, along with Micky Moniak and Blake Rutherford. Maybe even Danny Manning's kid could be considered, as he has some helium.

[reillymcshane]

If Puk is available at #5, would you take him?

 

It's interesting that a lot of people (both on our draft thread and in the media) are looking at Puk as the top pick. But it doesn't seem like a lot of people here are talking about him.

 

Just curious what people think.

[MrTPlush]

I sense AJ Puk wouldn't make it to #5 if the Phillies passed on him. Then again I haven't really heard much about what the other 3 before us think of him. Puk sounds like a lock at #1, but I also heard the Phillies might be interested in Delvin Perez because they could go so underslot on him. I am sure Groome is still in the discussion too.

 

I have a hunch they go Puk though since he has done well of late. Scouts are back to calling him a potential frontline starter and he should not be too far off being a college arm.

[nate82]

If Puk is available at #5, would you take him?

 

It's interesting that a lot of people (both on our draft thread and in the media) are looking at Puk as the top pick. But it doesn't seem like a lot of people here are talking about him.

 

Just curious what people think.

 

Even if Puk is not the top pick I don't see him going any lower than the 4th pick. I don't see how he could last until the Brewers pick as both the Braves and the Rockies would be all over him.

[splitterpfj]

Would I want the Brewers to take Puk if he got to them? Yes I would.

 

I think the Phillies will take him, but if they don't, I believe they'll take a hitter. If that happens, I think the most interesting scenario to watch would be if the Reds stick to their guns and take a bat too. You'd have the Braves sitting there, with all three of the top arms on the board, at a time when a top bat would make plenty of sense for them.

 

The bottom line - I think one of the top three pitchers will be available to the Brewers, if not two of them, and Puk is the one guy I don't think they'll have a shot at, one way or another. I just can't see four teams letting him go by at this point, but the MLB draft is a strange animal.

[SRB]

For posterity (i.e. bragging rights if I'm somehow correct ) my top-10 predictions are:

 

1.1 Kyle Lewis

1.2 AJ Puk

1.3 Riley Pint

1.4 Mickey Moniak

1.5 Delvin Perez

1.6 Jason Groome

1.7 Kyle Lewis

1.8 Nick Senzel

1.9 Zack Collins

1.10 Corey Ray

[splitterpfj]

You've got Kyle Lewis in there twice.

[sheetskout]

I just can't see four teams letting him go by at this point, but the MLB draft is a strange animal.

Anything can happen, but if it were a bet in Vegas (which it probably is somewhere), I'd bet my house that Puk doesn't fall to us at five. That being said I'm for pitching first unless Kyle Lewis falls to us - which isn't very likely either.

 

So it's pretty much Pint vs. Groome for me and I think they'll both be there. So if you have to select between them, which one?

[SRB]

You've got Kyle Lewis in there twice.

 

Lost my perfect bracket before the draft even began.

[Eye Black]

Seems unlikely that it is a "virtual lock" if people like Jim Callis project the Brewers passing on him.

 

As I said in another thread though, Perez would be my #1 pick (obviously I would be excited about others too)

Jim Callis somewhat backed off his Corey Ray pick in today's MLB Pipeline podcast, here is the quote as closely as I could transcribe... "You hear a lot of Delvin Perez with the Brewers at five, so I could see that as well. That Brewers pick (of Ray) it was very fluid when I was writing that and I think that could have gone in about six different directions."

[reillymcshane]

New BA mock:

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mock-draft-4-0/#IbMdY0E0cDJO8tH5.97

 

Brewers taking Pint.

[trwi7]

If the board broke like that and we still took Pint, I would not be a fan of that at all.

[Eye Black]

The latest MLB Pipeline Mock Draft (done by Jonathan Mayo, not Jim Callis)...

 

5. Brewers: Delvin Perez, SS, International Baseball Academy, Ceiba, P.R.

Perhaps no team and player have been as linked as the Brewers and the toolsy Perez. They could go college bat with someone like Corey Ray, but sometimes you have to just trust your gut and stick with the oft-repeated rumor.

[And That]

New BA mock:

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mock-draft-4-0/#IbMdY0E0cDJO8tH5.97

 

Brewers taking Pint.

Vindication for me voting for Moniak 1.1 in our mock draft.

[brewcrewdue80]

If the board broke like that and we still took Pint, I would not be a fan of that at all.

 

Because?

 

3 top players I'd like to see Milwaukee draft one of are all there. Pint/Groome can just turn out like a draft with Scherzer and Kershaw. Both frontline starters/Aces. Win/win regardless the choice.

[MrTPlush]

If the board broke like that and we still took Pint, I would not be a fan of that at all.

 

Well I would be happy if we got the biggest potential pitcher in the draft. Riley Pint is scary good and just needs some fine tuning. Yes his mechanics aren't perfect, but he hasn't been able to focus on baseball as much as others. He has shown improvement and there is no reason to think he can't continue. He throws 100mph and some think he can still add velocity.

 

He is riskier than Groome, but his ceiling is incredible.

[paul253]

I prefer Groome but if we walk away with Pint I'll be happy. I just hope we don't over think this. We desperately need a frontline starter in this organization. If a frontline starter is available you take him. Forget about trying to figure out the odds of him making the majors vs the odds of, say, a Corey Ray making the majors. I also hope we don't put too much faith in potential tools. Remember when TB took Beckham over Posey because of all of Beckhams potential tools? We need to get this right.