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We're Number Five! We're Number Five! - The 2016 MLB Draft Thread


The one report I've heard about the Brewers is that they have been very tight with Rutherford, so I'd be surprised if he wasn't the pick at this point.

 

Rutherford could easily be gone by the time we pick. Getting a lot of love recently.

 

Well, I suppose if that happened he wouldn't be the pick. I mean, they couldn't pick him, then fight with the other team over who gets to sign him, could they? Stearns looks pretty small, I'm not sure I'd take him in a cage match against any other GM. Although youth would be on his side.

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Over the last few months, I’ve conducted exclusive one-on-one interviews with 30 of the top MLB First-Year Player Draft prospects. Read my profiles on these top prospects here:

 

http://www.the3rdmanin.com/profiles-30-top-mlb-draft-prospects/

4 posts and nothing but plugging a website. Looks like spam to me.

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Over the last few months, I’ve conducted exclusive one-on-one interviews with 30 of the top MLB First-Year Player Draft prospects. Read my profiles on these top prospects here:

 

http://www.the3rdmanin.com/profiles-30-top-mlb-draft-prospects/

4 posts and nothing but plugging a website. Looks like spam to me.

 

Sheesh, it is relevant to the topic, no?

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Over the last few months, I’ve conducted exclusive one-on-one interviews with 30 of the top MLB First-Year Player Draft prospects. Read my profiles on these top prospects here:

 

http://www.the3rdmanin.com/profiles-30-top-mlb-draft-prospects/

4 posts and nothing but plugging a website. Looks like spam to me.

 

Sheesh, it is relevant to the topic, no?

Maybe, maybe not. When your soul purpose is to plug your own board I find it very distasteful.

Fan is short for fanatic.

I blame Wang.

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I still pray Puk Pint or Groome falls. I know it's risky, much riskier than a hitter, but we are desperate for an impact pitcher. I look at this organization and I see all of one pitcher with top of the rotation potential, that being Josh Hader. Lopez and Nelson are close but Lopez is struggling mightily this year. Maybe guys like Kirby and Ponce will show something when they come back next year but I'm very concerned about our pitching depth organization wide. And Lucroy is the only major trade asset we have left, the last opportunity well have for quite sometime to trade for a pitching prospect with top of the rotation potential. You don't reach and take someone who isn't deserving of #5 but I still hope that if any of those three are available we would grab one.
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4 posts and nothing but plugging a website. Looks like spam to me.

 

Sheesh, it is relevant to the topic, no?

Maybe, maybe not. When your soul purpose is to plug your own board I find it very distasteful.

 

Interviews with 2016 MLB Draft prospects are "maybe" relevant to the 2016 MLB Draft Thread? Sure man.

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Regardless of whether or not it's relevant it is in bad taste to come on this site for no reason other than to advertise his site. If you want to mention it once or twice and provide a link while actively participating in the thread, cool. But his posts come off more as commercials then anything. There's nothing in there about a pick preference or scouting report or opinion or anything. Just "hey you want to know more about the players then you should go to this website".
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I see all of one pitcher with top of the rotation potential, that being Josh Hader.

 

And even Josh Hader is an extreme stretch to be a top of the rotation guy. He just can't throw enough innings and the major leagues aren't going to be any easier for him. Sadly Hader is more likely to end up in the bullpen than be a top of the rotation guy. Reminds me a lot of Tyler Thornburg. You want to believe he can stick in the rotation, but a trip to the other side of the outfield wall seems inevitable.

 

I wish they could get Pint or Groome. I am on the fence about Puk and hope he can show a little more here down the stretch. I went in wishing they could get "that" pitcher for the future, but if Groome/Pint aren't there maybe an elite bat will just have to be the choice.

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Exactly even worst case scenario(is there one?) we end up with a really good player. Pitcher/Hitter they are going to immediately be the brightest young player to enter our system in a long long time.

 

I'm glad you've so suddenly changed your tone about this draft. This is what you posted 10 days ago (viewtopic.php?p=978322#p978322):

 

Yah this draft gets worse by the day. Honestly it is getting to the point I secretly hope our top pick doesn't sign for whateber reason and we can have the #6 pick next year.
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I still think it is a pretty dismal draft to be at the top. We will get a great player at #5 no doubt, but probably not as great as some prior drafts had up for offer. Still really hard to gauge some of the bats at there is still a few months for everything to shake out. Draft can change quickly.

 

It is a deep draft though and our 2nd/3rd round picks will come quickly. That is one positive.

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For those that know a lot more than I do about this: would we really pass on Groome and Pint if either were available at #5? To me, this seems crazy. I know that teams get scared with prep arms, but aren't these two guys by far the most talented players in this year's draft? You'd have to draft one of them if they were available at #5 if you were the Brewers, right?
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For those that know a lot more than I do about this: would we really pass on Groome and Pint if either were available at #5? To me, this seems crazy. I know that teams get scared with prep arms, but aren't these two guys by far the most talented players in this year's draft? You'd have to draft one of them if they were available at #5 if you were the Brewers, right?

 

 

I have got to agree with you 100%. Maybe we get lucky and Groome in particular gets there. The last sentence in his bio was interesting about questions with his makeup.

 

Scouting Grades: Fastball: 65 | Curveball: 60 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 55 | Overall: 60

A New Jersey native, Groome moved to Florida to attend the IMG Academy in Bradenton for his junior season. After a very strong summer on the showcase circuit, Groome is back in the Garden State and could be the highest-drafted player ever from that state. Two weeks into his senior season, and a week after a 19-strikeout no-hitter, he was ruled ineligible for 30 days because he'd violated a New Jersey State Interscholastic Athletic Association transfer rule despite returning to his parents' home and former school.

 

Groome has everything to be a top-of-the-rotation left-handed starting pitcher, from his 6-foot-6 frame to the potential to have three above-average to plus offerings. The fastball is already there, up to 96 mph and sitting 92-93 mph over the summer, and in the 90-94 mph range in the early stages of the spring. Groome features a nasty curve as well, with tight rotation and bite. He doesn't throw his changeup often, but he's shown some feel for it, with some sink. Groome is generally around the plate and has clean mechanics, with a pretty good overall feel for pitching.

 

The highest a player from New Jersey has gone in the June Draft is No. 3 (Jeff Kunkel, 1983; Willie Banks, 1987). Groome, a Vanderbilt commit, could break that record, though some some teams have concerns about his makeup.

 

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=draft Click on box with Groome's picture

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New rankings from Mayo and Callis of MLB. Kyle Lewis and AJ Puk getting some love.

 

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/175743496/aj-puk-at-no-1-in-latest-mlb-mock-draft?topicid=151437456

 

Does anyone have a take on whether Perez can be a strong bat at 3b as he fills out?

 

I'm not sure why you're worried about 3B as i see him as a MI. I like the idea of having 2 SS capable fielders, one at SS and one at 2B. I think Gatewood (already moved) and Lara are much more likely to end up there than Perez.

 

I would be disappointed if Groome was the on board and we took a position player, regardless of whom, as I don't see much impact pitching in the minors at this time. I understand if people believe that Lopez, Hader, and Medeiros are those guys, I'm just don't see it for the reasons I've laid out previously over the last 2 years. I'm not anywhere near as high on Pint, Perez over Pint would be fine.

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Perez would be a good pick but if Groome is on the board you absolutely have to take him. I think Groome is the only Ace type pitcher in the draft right now though I am intrigued with Braxton Garrett and he maybe a sleeper that slips into the top 5 mostly a control oriented LHP but he does have a nice curveball.
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It would be hard to pass on Groome, but Pint has a lot of concern. I wouldn't blame them for passing on either to be honest. Prep arms can be total busts and at #5 that would be really really bad. Whatever they do regarding those two has my full support. Massive ceilings with massive floors.
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I understand the concern on Pint but if it were me I'd take the chance. He'd immediately become probably our third best pitching prospect behind Hader and Lopez but he easily have the highest ceiling. Our system has decent pitching depth but lacks true high ceiling guys. And you only have so many chances to get a guy with as high a ceiling as Pint. With likely top ten choices the next few years we really have an opportunity to get afew guys with ace like potential. And we haven't developed someone like that since Ben Sheets! We are loaded at outfield and have depth at SS, which makes it easier for me to pass on guys like Perez, Ray, and Rutherford and Lewis. I just think given the state of the franchise you have to start taking more chances on pitching and hope you can find someone that knows how to develop them. That said, my preferences in order are Groome, Pint and Puk then probably Lewis Perez and Rutherfurd.
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Obviously anything is possible, but do you think they may take someone that is moving up draft boards right now and try and save some money on that pick in order to spread it around on signing future picks? Seems like there are some really good players at 5, but if Stearns/Montgomery think they can get a guy almost as good and save some money, I wonder which way they would go.
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