Orlando Arcia

[brewcrewdue80]

Guess Keith Law came out with a top 25...Guess who's made it?

Law's updated top 25 prospects

 

1 Carlos Correa, SS

2 Corey Seager, SS/3B

3 Byron Buxton, OF

4 J.P. Crawford, SS

5 Francisco Lindor, SS

6 Lucas Giolito, RHP

7 Julio Urias, LHP

8 Joey Gallo, 3B

9 Tyler Glasnow, RHP

10 Miguel Sano, 3B

11 Yoan Moncada, 2B

12 Nomar Mazara, RF

13 Austin Meadows, CF

14 Rafael Devers, 3B

15 Kyle Schwarber, C/OF

16 Aaron Judge, RF

17 Daniel Norris, LHP

18 Eduardo Rodriguez, LHP

19 Jose Peraza, 2B

20 Orlando Arcia, SS

21 Dylan Bundy, RHP

22 Jameson Taillon, RHP

23 Alex Reyes, RHP

24 Jose De Leon, RHP

25 Jose Berrios, RHP

 

Of Course Mr Arcia. Making him 5th best SS prospect overall.

[foamboy1]

Apologies if there is a previous Arcia topic - I didn't find it in my search.

 

ESPN's Keith Law published today and updated Top 25 Minor League Baseball Prospects and Arcia moved up to #20. It's behind the Insider pay wall so I know (as previously chastised) I can't publish the entire article here. That said, this is a bit of what he said about Arcia in his review:

 

Arcia has had one of the minors' biggest breakout campaigns to date, walking more than he has struck out while hitting .325/.382/.450 for Biloxi, along with above-average defense at short. His power has come out now that he's out of the graveyard of high Class A Brevard County as well, and he should be the Brewers' long-term shortstop starting at some point in 2016.

 

If I inadvertently created any problems - course correct as needed. I'm not a huge Keith Law fan but it's good to know that Arcia is finally getting some attention nationally.

[Mass Haas]

6/28/11: Looked up David Goforth's pro & Link Report debut; thread title was "Arcia continues to lay waste to DSL"

 

The kid was 16 years old at the time.

[MrTPlush]

Quite the jump for Arcia. Then again dominating the hardest level at a young age will do those kind of things to you. High contact swing with little strikeouts. Kid is going to be a solid SS at the big league level.

[wildcat2237]

I was going to post something very similar late last week.

 

I got down to Jackson last week and saw the Shuckers play.

 

Without going into detail I am of the belief that Arcia could be VERY VERY special. What is scary, is that he could still put on 25 lbs of muscle, especially if you look at how his brother is built.

 

No question in my mind Arcia is a top 20 prospect when the next Baseball America rankings come out.

 

Also of note, Michael Reed looks like a future MLB regular and Brooks Hall IMo may turn out to be an MLB starter. Good things are happening in Biloxi.

 

Heres some video of Arcia. Note the wrist quickness. Havnt seen a Brewers prospect get to pitchers so easy since Braun.

 

http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=117702583&sid=t5015 HR on 5/15

 

http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=117702583&sid=t5015 2b on 5/15

 

http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=117702583&sid=t5015 2b on 5/14

 

http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=117702583&sid=t5015 single on 4/24

 

Just note the bat speed and torque produced by his swing.

[igor67]

I guess the big question is with his swing how much in game power can Arcia add even if he bulks up some? I'd be vary happy if it was mostly gap power if he could keep that batting average up there in the .330 range. An excellent defender with elite contact would be a very exciting player at SS.

[wildcat2237]

I guess the big question is with his swing how much in game power can Arcia add even if he bulks up some? I'd be vary happy if it was mostly gap power if he could keep that batting average up there in the .330 range. An excellent defender with elite contact would be a very exciting player at SS.

 

I honestly believe he may bulk up enough, and hit for enough power, to one day play 3b at the MLB level. Remember he is 19 years old and tearing apart AA right now, not 22.

 

By the time he is 23-24 years old I could see him looking like Corey Seager.

 

Arcia was skin and bones at 16 and tore apart the DSL. Now he's put on probably 20 lbs and is tearing up AA. Most guys bulk up considerable between the ages of 19 and 24, so time will tell.

 

Either way, at SS or 3b, Arcia should be fun to watch, and its nice to know DM is not going to deal him for Scott Linebrink or Gerardo Parra at the deadline.

[FVBrewerFan]

How do you think he compares to Alcides Escobar at the MLB level? Range, arm, hitting, power, etc. Just seems like a reasonable comp, but I haven't seen Arcia play defense for a couple years years now...

[TheCrew07]

I think assuming any Latin kid is going to buik up the right way is a stretch, winter ball kills any chance of hitting the weights.

 

His brother has a completely different natural body type so I think it's fair to at least hope he could develop into a double digit HR guy naturally.

[wildcat2237]

How do you think he compares to Alcides Escobar at the MLB level? Range, arm, hitting, power, etc. Just seems like a reasonable comp, but I haven't seen Arcia play defense for a couple years years now...

 

About equal in the field. Escobar might be a bit better. Hitting, I'd go with Arcia. Swing creates more torque, faster wrists, and excellent plate discipline for such a young hitter. (Quick wrists help that).

 

Overall, I'd say Arcia has the higher ceiling.

[MrTPlush]

How do you think he compares to Alcides Escobar at the MLB level? Range, arm, hitting, power, etc. Just seems like a reasonable comp, but I haven't seen Arcia play defense for a couple years years now...

 

Defense isn't as good and his arm is probably weaker. But his offense is a lot better. I think he will provide more power and his plate discipline is great. Easy to see him with a high average with a nice OBP along with it. Could be a fantastic lead off hitter.

[FVBrewerFan]

I like the enthusiasm, but Escobar had a .700ish OPS last year, hard to imagine Arcia being WAY better than that- especially since he doesn't have much power either.

[Outlander]

Escobar has a 300 OBP for his career, if Arcia has good plate discipline he should be way better offensively, not really a stretch.

[wildcat2237]

I like the enthusiasm, but Escobar had a .700ish OPS last year, hard to imagine Arcia being WAY better than that- especially since he doesn't have much power either.

 

Arcia is 19 years old.

 

Let's wait until he's 22-23 to conclude he wll never hit for any power.

[TURBO]

Also of note, Michael Reed looks like a future MLB regular and Cy Sneed IMo may turn out to be an MLB starter. Good things are happening in Biloxi.

 

 

Sneed got moved to Biloxi? If so, I completely missed that news...

[SRB]

I was concerned that Arcia was cooling off after his scorching start to the season, glad to see him ranked so highly (even it's Keith Law)!

[Jenkins5]

Orlando didn't take too kindly to talk about lack of power.... Smacked another double and HR today.... Kid is good, really good!

 

I think outside of being outstanding defenders ( there was some article early in season discussing how Orlando is arguably one of top defensive SS in Milb and it was his offense that has held him back not to forgot the Brewers front office as early as last season saying he is mlb ready defensively) they are very different prospects. They have very different body types and offensive skill sets. Sardinas is the much better comp to Escobar.

 

Love the helium he is on this season!

[BrewCrewForever]

Man, it sure if cool to be able to get uber excited about a big time prospect for the Brewers again. Seems it has been awhile. Can't wait to see him in 2016/2017 playing SS everyday for the big club.

[wildcat2237]

Also of note, Michael Reed looks like a future MLB regular and Cy Sneed IMo may turn out to be an MLB starter. Good things are happening in Biloxi.

 

 

Sneed got moved to Biloxi? If so, I completely missed that news...

 

 

Sorry, meant Brooks Hall. Just read an article on Sneed and that name typed out.

 

Hall looks real good. Breaking stuff is good. Real tight curve looking like an MLB out pitch.

[DHonks]

I've always paid attention to Arcia's BB:K ratio. He's reminded me of Brantley. last season I was predicting he'd be our SS late this year. Seggy has really bounced back. But I could see us playing Seggy, Arcia, and Sardinas/Gennett in an IF together. Not a ton of power, but 3 decent potential bats. Plus we get plenty of power from other spots.

[Jenkins5]

2B Segura

SS Arcia

3B Sardinas

 

(Sardinas and Segura could switch)

 

Utility Bill Hall Role: Yadiel Rivera

 

There is a defensive infield! All those guys are capable .300 plus hitters as well

[TheCrew07]

I find this thread slightly amusing given how little love Escobar got from the board in that 2008-2010 range.

 

Orlando doesn't have the range that Alcides had, nor the arm, both are probably 1 notch down which is still pretty darn exciting. Both Rivera and Arcia looked like Escobar at times, both can make the spectacular play on occasion, though I think Rivera is a slight step up from Arcia.

 

I'll say this again, people having always talked about Arcia's BB:SO ratio and I honestly believe that in his case it was a negative. His hand eye coordination is so exceptional that when he was in WI he put way too many horrible hitters pitches in play for weak outs. I'm talking the kind of pitches 99% of MWL hitters don't come close to getting a bat on. He would guess, get totally fooled, and still manage to make contact. He didn't always have plate discipline, he's learning it, which is why his results are ascending as he moves up the chain.

 

His offensive ceiling is far above Escobars. Alcides has a .649 career OPS, I think Orlando has legitimate .750+ potential because he's going to hit for a higher average and will take more walks, thus having significantly better OBP. Or put another way if he has a .350 OBP I believe he'll be able to SLG .400. I've also said this before but I think Orlando's bat speed is going to surprise people... he doesn't have to jerk it down the line to get it out of the park, he hit HRs to the LC alley in WI. Not only does he have a different body but he also has a different kind of swing than his brother Oswaldo. Will he generate more lift as he matures? I have no idea, but I don't think he has to be a successful MLB SS.

 

Counting stat wise I like Orlando to be a perennial 4 WAR player (fangraphs), I thought Escobar had a reasonable shot to be in that 3-4 WAR range per year as well but his offensive production has varied wildly with his batting average. I would have pegged him to be more consistent in that .270-.290 range year to year.