Smith suspension reduced to 6 games (post 27)

[Ennder]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2015/05/22/-smith-suspended-foreign-substance/27776373/

 

Seems a bit harsh considering what other pitchers got for punching guys.

[torts]

i thought pine tar ejections was an automatic 10 game suspension

[3and2Fastball]

wow

 

harsh indeed

 

On the plus side it gets his arm a nice amount of rest. in 2014 RRR completely abused him & overused him and he's certainly seen a lot of playing time in 2015. Smith can be a truly great pitcher is not abused

[JohnBriggs12]

It was a knucklehead move on his part. If he's telling the truth that he "forgot to wipe off" before entering the game then it's also on Lee Tunnell who's only job during a game is monitor the relievers.

[trwi7]

8 seems harsh considering he could theoretically pitch 4 of those games. Pineda got 10 but he was really only going to pitch 2 of those games.

[TheCrew07]

Whatever the reason and regardless if everyone else is cheating or not, it was so obvious I wouldn't have cared if he had gotten 16 games.

 

Have some common sense, especially with HD cameras everywhere now, I don't have much sympathy for this kind of stuff.

[JohnBriggs12]

8 seems harsh considering he could theoretically pitch 4 of those games. Pineda got 10 but he was really only going to pitch 2 of those games.

 

Tom Brady got 1/4 of a season for deflating footballs. Maybe his appeal will reduce it to 1/8th of a season. Integrity of the game matters even if the "cheating" seems trivial.

 

Yankees had to cover more innings for Pineda than Brewers will for Smith.

[tmwiese55]

Also when thinking about just games you have to remember they don't get paid. Therefore to suspend a starter the equivalent of 4 starts he'd be losing over 20 game checks. Whereas the reliever would only lose 8 (assuming he pitches four of 8 as someone said).

[Thurston Fluff]

Whatever the reason and regardless if everyone else is cheating or not, it was so obvious I wouldn't have cared if he had gotten 16 games.

 

Have some common sense, especially with HD cameras everywhere now, I don't have much sympathy for this kind of stuff.

 

That is kind of where I am at. I do wonder if it isn't that obvious a lot but nobody calls other teams out on it. I read where Freddie Freeman said he prefers they use it so there is less chance of getting hit. I'm kind of curious if there isn't sort of a gentleman's agreement that you should not call out the opponents on it on cold days or something. Not because everyone does it but because everyone agrees its the best way to reduce how many people get hit.

[Pugger]

Whatever the reason and regardless if everyone else is cheating or not, it was so obvious I wouldn't have cared if he had gotten 16 games.

 

Have some common sense, especially with HD cameras everywhere now, I don't have much sympathy for this kind of stuff.

 

That is kind of where I am at. I do wonder if it isn't that obvious a lot but nobody calls other teams out on it. I read where Freddie Freeman said he prefers they use it so there is less chance of getting hit. I'm kind of curious if there isn't sort of a gentleman's agreement that you should not call out the opponents on it on cold days or something. Not because everyone does it but because everyone agrees its the best way to reduce how many people get hit.

 

If this is the case Smith should have been more discreet and not have it on his forearm for the whole world to see.

[danzig6767]

Whatever the reason and regardless if everyone else is cheating or not, it was so obvious I wouldn't have cared if he had gotten 16 games.

 

Have some common sense, especially with HD cameras everywhere now, I don't have much sympathy for this kind of stuff.

Yea, pretty dumb to have the stuff glistening right on the middle of his forearm.

[tmwiese55]

Exactly, all he had to do was wipe the blatant brown stuff off so no one could see and it would've been fine. the stickiness would still be there to help him. If I recall, gonzalez actually said they noticed during the first hitter but didn't say anything because he didn't ever go to it. Once he went to it on the second batter he said something.

[FVBrewerFan]

Not that it matters, but he also looked ridiculous complaining about being tossed from the game.

[patrickgpe]

probably this is a case to give 8, so smith serves 4.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Buster Olney, who I usually can't stand, defending Will Smith on Mike and Mike today.

 

The thing Smith did wrong was put the substance in such a blatantly noticeable spot.

[tmwiese55]

I don't mind the complaining at the ATL dugout. none was directed to the umpires as they don't have a choice once they see it. With the shenanigans between MKE and ATL the last couple years I like that he went at them. Everyone does it and for someone to snitch like that is a violation of the 'unwritten rules', especially on a cold night like that when the help is needed. And as Freddie said it's done to avoid his 96 mph heater drilling someone in the face.

[FVBrewerFan]

If we were the Cardinals, playing the "right" way, there would be a lot of Braves HBP tonight.

[jerichoholicninja]

Not that it matters, but he also looked ridiculous complaining about being tossed from the game.

 

He was upset with the Braves, not the umps. And while, yes he broke the rules, that's just not something opposing managers are going to point out. Heck, even La Russa allowed Kenny Rogers to pitch with an obvious hunk of something on him during the World Series and Tony all but said that he's ok with it because his own guys do it.

[brewmann04]

can the replace him on the 25 man roster if he gets suspended?

Maybe they bring up Bradley

[lcbj68c]

i thought pine tar ejections was an automatic 10 game suspension

 

I guess it wasn't pine tar, but rosin + vaseline?

[DocLuna7]

Have we determined whether or not Smith can be replaced on the 25 man roster for the games he ends up being suspended? IIRC, when MLB suspended Pineida from the Yankees for his incident a year or two ago, they had to play with a 24 man roster for those 10 games.

[nate82]

Players who are suspended count towards the 25 man roster so the Brewers will have to play with a 24 man roster.

[WV Brew]

Hopefully, Jeffress will get suspended too. He is still on a pace to appear in 86 games this year. I don't think he will make it. It has been slightly better under Counsell though. Smith on pace for 76 appearances.

[DocLuna7]

Players who are suspended count towards the 25 man roster so the Brewers will have to play with a 24 man roster.

 

Thanks Nate. This is unfortunate for the pen.

[jerichoholicninja]

Players who are suspended count towards the 25 man roster so the Brewers will have to play with a 24 man roster.

 

Except for PED's. For some reason.