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Barry Bonds Preparing Grievance Action For Collusion

 

By Jeff Todd [May 11, 2015 at 11:06pm CDT]

 

Controversial all-time great slugger Barry Bonds is going ahead with a case against Major League Baseball alleging that he was colluded against following the 2007 season, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports. Bonds recently had an obstruction of justice conviction overturned, which apparently spurred the effort to proceed against MLB.

 

Bonds will reportedly assert that the league conspired to keep him from returning to action after the 2007 season. The home run king never found a new team after reaching free agency. 2007 was his age-42 campaign, so he was obviously past his prime, but Bonds still managed to slash an obviously productive .276/.480/.565 with 28 home runs over 477 plate appearances that year for San Francisco. Heyman writes that Bonds’ camp waited until after resolution of his successfully-challenged felony conviction to pursue a collusion claim.

 

The topic was covered at length here at MLBTR at the time: Bonds’ reputation was in tatters, and there were health questions. Nevertheless, given his unrivaled productivity even at an advanced age — he led the league in OBP in 2007 and five of the six seasons before it — it remained rather remarkable that he did not receive a single offer that offseason (per his agent, Jeff Borris). That has led to various suggestions that Bonds was effectively blacklisted across the league.

 

As is mandated by the CBA, Bonds’ issue would first be addressed by the grievance process. Bonds appears to be working with the MLBPA on the case. MLB commissioner Rob Manfred, MLBPA head Tony Clark, and Borris all are said to have declined Heyman’s requests for comment.

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He has a legitimate gripe.

 

I couldn't believe no one offered him a deal to DH that season.

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I am with you on that. 42 years old and still hit 28 hrs? He would have still been able to play DH for a year or two

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He has a legitimate gripe.

 

I couldn't believe no one offered him a deal to DH that season.

 

Exactly. OPS of 1.045 with 28 HR's while still having the added stress of playing defense. You could make the argument that NL teams were afraid of the defensive liability in LF, but there was no on-field argument that he couldn't contribute to any one of the AL teams. Off-field concerns a plenty (unrepentent jerk, PR hit with the PED stigma, etc), but if he was willing to play for a reasonable salary and you could hanlde the PR hit he would have been an incredible addition to an AL team.

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http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bondsba01.shtml

 

those numbers for age 41 and 42... 247 WALKS in 2 seasons compared to 105 strike outs. unbelievable patience

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because I was curious... Bonds is the all time Walks leader with 2,558... 400 more than Ricky Henderson and Babe Ruth... and TWICE as many as the next active player, Arod at 1257. I mean... that is unreal. I realize there was a stretch of 8 years where everyone avoided pitching to Barry... but still!

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Being forced to retire when he had a .480 OBP the year before is kind of ridiculous. The owners are not alone though, Baseball Reference has him as the 110th best player of all time just ahead of Rusty Staub and Bobby Bonds.
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Yeah baseball is in the wrong on this one. They created the monster(s) of guys like Barry Bonds by allowing PED use because it sparked in interest in the game of baseball again. Then when guys started breaking records, they turned them into the villains. Its a crying shame what they did to guys like Barry. Barry is a complete butt head but he should've been allowed to play the game again.
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I don't think it is cut and dry as people are making it out to be. If I was a owner I would have serious reservations about what happens to him at his age without PEDs. There would only have been a small number of teams looking for a short term fix at DH and willing to deal with the PR nightmare to begin with. Let alone one that would have serious questions about productivity due to him having to play clean for the first time post 40 years old. The chances of getting even the pre-steroid version of Bands was zero let alone the one who put up the numbers he did on them.
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It is difficult to recapture that moment, but it frankly is not that hard to imagine at the height of the frenzy that all of the AL GMs would just want to stay away. It's different now because the rules forced guys to come back onto active duty after their suspensions. I'd wager that if contracts had been invalidated (not saying they should) after a positive test, a bunch of other guys might have joined Barry on the street for along time, before someone got brave enough to hire them back.
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Every team can use a guy that gets on base once every two times, even a NL team that could only use him as a bench bat. Can't imagine they would even attempt to use the productivity card when Bonds lawyer would just show the prior year stats.
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Maybe there truly were not any owners that wanted to deal with the nightmare of Barry Bonds. As someone stated, he probably was down to a DH role at age 42 and so that eliminates half the teams right there. Of the remaining 14 teams (Hous was still in NL at that point), probably at least 4 or 5 teams could not afford to pay him what he thought he was worth. I don't think it's inconceivable that the remaining 9 or 10 teams just did not want him (despite his continued productivity). That's not collusion. That's a player that dug his own grave based on his personal decisions.

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He was a steroider and none of the owners wanted that stigma surrounding their franchise.

 

Cant blame them.

 

Owners really don't seem to care now...

 

Baltimore...

Seattle...

St. Louis...

Toronto...

White Sox...

 

 

Milwaukee.....

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He was a steroider and none of the owners wanted that stigma surrounding their franchise.

 

Cant blame them.

 

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Had Sosa been exposed by that point? I'm sure the entire Balco circus added another layer of complexity as well.

 

Yes once some other teams had been forced by suspensions to players under contract it became different

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Just for the record, that same off-season Texas signed Sammy Sosa to DH for them. Coming off a .671 OPS.

 

He was four years younger as well. The difference between 38 and 42 is no small matter in professional sports.

Can't imagine they would even attempt to use the productivity card when Bonds lawyer would just show the prior year stats.

 

A player whose productivity the previous 7 years was enhanced by PEDs would probably be wise not use those numbers to show he can still be productive and stay healthy at age 42 without them.

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He was a steroider and none of the owners wanted that stigma surrounding their franchise.

 

Cant blame them.

 

sand, meet head.

 

He was a 42 year old notorious jerk, who was tied up in the Balco federal investigation.

 

Excuse me for noting that as an owner I wouldn't want that personality in my clubhouse. Heck look at the stink people on this board made about Papelbon last winter. Bonds makes Papelbon look like an angel.

 

Not to mention I wouldnt want FBI agents snooping around the franchise.

 

That collusion lawsuit is ripe for a 12(b)(6) motion, it deserves to go the way of the lawsuit Ryan Braun's old friend filed accusing Braun of fraud.

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http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bondsba01.shtml

 

those numbers for age 41 and 42... 247 WALKS in 2 seasons compared to 105 strike outs. unbelievable patience

His .609 OBP in 2004 just might be the most crazy stat of any baseball player. That almost doesn't seem possible.

 

 

It probably isn't if you aren't on something.

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Roenicke would've pitched to him
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