2015 Regular Season Optimism Thread

[JohnBriggs12]

After losing two series in a row again I think it's safe to say we are not going to suddenly turn it around in time to save the season. For doing that so early in the season I am grateful. I can now look at this season as the beginning of a new era instead of the last gasp of the old one. While it would have been nice to see the old one go out with more wins starting over has it's own excitement. Seeing who we get for the future at this point is more interesting than the actual games. I will still listen/watch games and will cheer especially loud when we play the Cubs or Cards. No matter how we are doing if we can take those two down the season isn't a total loss.

 

The White Sox haven't lost since dropping the opener to the Brewers and the Mets are a first place team. This is a tough stretch. If they can hang in there and pick up some wins like last night, there's still a glimmer. Lets see how this team looks with Lucroy back before we bury them completely.

 

From a perspective of selling off assets, Broxton touching 98 last night could be very significant, and Jeffress was plain nasty.

[JohnBriggs12]

The 2005 Astros should give everyone hope. They were 16-31 after getting shut out by the Brewers on May 27th, and 21-35 on June 7th. They reached .500 two days prior to All Star break by winning 22 of their next 30. It can happen.

 

Oh yeah, they made it all the way to the World Series that year where they got swept by the White Sox.

[Thurston Fluff]

With Phil Garner as manager as I recall. You've convinced me. Lets hope when any sane man would hope no longer!!!

[torts]

SERIES WIN!!!!!!! IF ONLY WE HADNLT LET THE PIRATES ROLL OVER US IN APRIL THIS WOuLD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW!!!!

[torts]

HERES SOMETING TO CHEW ON....

 

April - 5 Wins.

May - 12 Wins.

June - 17 WINS?!!?!

 

DOUBLE DOUBLE THE NL IS IN TROUBLE!!!!!

 

17th win won in the 17th inning by the only player to catch 17 innings and have a walk off home run! After having lost 17 games in April and 17 games in May!

 

17 EVERYWHERE! TIME TO GO 17-11 IN JUNE! (or 11-17, im okay with taking for #1 next summer!!!)

[JohnBriggs12]

There are good developments this year despite the record. Segura's rebounded to the point where he becomes a viable option to move to 3B allowing the talent at SS in the system to take over that spot. While he may not fit the mold of the power hitting 3B he can provide a nice combination of defense and offense.

[torts]

There are good developments this year despite the record. Segura's rebounded to the point where he becomes a viable option to move to 3B allowing the talent at SS in the system to take over that spot. While he may not fit the mold of the power hitting 3B he can provide a nice combination of defense and offense.

 

not just at SS, but also 2B, too. I dont think its far fetched at all to see an IF of Segura, Sardinas, Arcia with whoever at 1B in the next year or so.

[brewmann04]

if certain guys can get hot and the crew are not in the race at least maybe they can move a few players.

[Outlander]

Michael Blazek and Will Smith have not given up a home run in a combined 47 innings of work. K-Rod has only served up one and many were worried about that going into the season.

[pacopete4]

Michael Blazek and Will Smith have not given up a home run in a combined 47 innings of work. K-Rod has only served up one and many were worried about that going into the season.

 

 

I feel as though this will be the scene for many of our players in the upcoming month. (I would've linked the video but did not want to get in trouble )

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDgnQ4eCAAAI4v7.jpg:large

[craigharmann]

The Brewers are on pace to have the first pick in next years' draft!!!

[JohnBriggs12]

Scooter has a 1.099 OPS vs. LHP in Colo. Springs. That is not a misprint. It's not all hitter friendly air in Colorado either. His road OPS is .966 vs. .630 at home. Would expect he'll be back as soon as Smith returns and they can send Goforth back down. A 2013-2014 Scooter makes this team a lot better.

[tmwiese55]

Could the AAA SS Rivera be molded into a 3B at all, kid is 6'3? I'm not too familiar if he's really considered much of a threat to make the bigs as a starter. Segura, Arcia and him around infield.

 

Also, Brewers are now not the worst record in the league. Making a charge for the WC now.

[FVBrewerFan]

Michael Blazek. Credit where credit is due, I didn't think he even deserved to be on the roster to start the season. Proved me wrong, good for you Blaze.

[Ennder]

Not sure it is a good thing but no longer worst record in baseball.

[Thurston Fluff]

Not only are we winning series lately we are doing so against some pretty good teams.

[JohnBriggs12]

Not sure it is a good thing but no longer worst record in baseball.

 

That's what the game has become? Where "fans" want utter failure to enhance draft position? That's what I hate about the NBA. You'd think that in baseball where the draft is still a big crapshoot, and summers watching complete ineptitude are so depressing that fans wouldn't be like that.

 

The Brewers no longer have the worst record in baseball, because news flash, they aren't the worst team in baseball. The longer the season goes, the more a team's record is reflective of a team's strength. It's become fashionable around the game to say "Brewers suck". Just heard Gordon Wittenmeyer of the Chicago Tribune say that on Chicago radio this morning. He's wrong. I've seen a lot of worse Brewer teams in my day. A lot. A lot of people were saying the "Brewers suck" in 1991 too when that team was 43-60 in early August. But they still had a very good roster. They could have easily traded off a lot of talent that year but they held on to it, and finished incredibly strong, winning 40 of their last 59 games and that was followed up by an exciting 1992 season. This team's roster is still decent. Maybe not on the level of the 91 team, but for a variety of reasons, most notably a 2-13 start and a rash of injuries, they haven't played anywhere near the level they are capable of, yet.

[torts]

Not sure it is a good thing but no longer worst record in baseball.

 

That's what the game has become? Where "fans" want utter failure to enhance draft position? That's what I hate about the NBA. You'd think that in baseball where the draft is still a big crapshoot, and summers watching complete ineptitude are so depressing that fans wouldn't be like that.

 

The Brewers no longer have the worst record in baseball, because news flash, they aren't the worst team in baseball. The longer the season goes, the more a team's record is reflective of a team's strength. It's become fashionable around the game to say "Brewers suck". Just heard Gordon Wittenmeyer of the Chicago Tribune say that on Chicago radio this morning. He's wrong. I've seen a lot of worse Brewer teams in my day. A lot. A lot of people were saying the "Brewers suck" in 1991 too when that team was 43-60 in early August. But they still had a very good roster. They could have easily traded off a lot of talent that year but they held on to it, and finished incredibly strong, winning 40 of their last 59 games and that was followed up by an exciting 1992 season. This team's roster is still decent. Maybe not on the level of the 91 team, but for a variety of reasons, most notably a 2-13 start and a rash of injuries, they haven't played anywhere near the level they are capable of, yet.

 

I said pretty much the same thing in another thread but it got shrugged off as "well they're still in last place so they're the worst team". Brewers have been 18 - 21 since May 1st, but because they lost 17 games in April, no one cares about how they've been since then (which is much better than their April record "shows"). If the Brewers end up with a top 10 pick thats still great. I want the team to win games, I dont want them to lay down, and im certainly not going to be upset if we end up getting closer to .500 because they win games.

[pacopete4]

Not sure it is a good thing but no longer worst record in baseball.

 

That's what the game has become? Where "fans" want utter failure to enhance draft position? That's what I hate about the NBA. You'd think that in baseball where the draft is still a big crapshoot, and summers watching complete ineptitude are so depressing that fans wouldn't be like that.

 

The Brewers no longer have the worst record in baseball, because news flash, they aren't the worst team in baseball. The longer the season goes, the more a team's record is reflective of a team's strength. It's become fashionable around the game to say "Brewers suck". Just heard Gordon Wittenmeyer of the Chicago Tribune say that on Chicago radio this morning. He's wrong. I've seen a lot of worse Brewer teams in my day. A lot. A lot of people were saying the "Brewers suck" in 1991 too when that team was 43-60 in early August. But they still had a very good roster. They could have easily traded off a lot of talent that year but they held on to it, and finished incredibly strong, winning 40 of their last 59 games and that was followed up by an exciting 1992 season. This team's roster is still decent. Maybe not on the level of the 91 team, but for a variety of reasons, most notably a 2-13 start and a rash of injuries, they haven't played anywhere near the level they are capable of, yet.

 

I said pretty much the same thing in another thread but it got shrugged off as "well they're still in last place so they're the worst team". Brewers have been 18 - 21 since May 1st, but because they lost 17 games in April, no one cares about how they've been since then (which is much better than their April record "shows"). If the Brewers end up with a top 10 pick thats still great. I want the team to win games, I dont want them to lay down, and im certainly not going to be upset if we end up getting closer to .500 because they win games.

 

 

I want them to win 10-12 games in a row and then continue to win series to get their arses back in this thing. To heck what people think about them. I want them to win and win as much as possible.

[brewmann04]

they are 15 games under 500 in that it's almost mid june with 3 full months of baseball to play.

they will have to go on some streak just to get to 500.

[pacopete4]

they are 15 games under 500 in that it's almost mid june with 3 full months of baseball to play.

they will have to go on some streak just to get to 500.

 

Perfect. Let's do it!

[adambr2]

It's not so much the difference between a top 3 and top 5 pick. It's more about not wanting this team to end up deciding to avoid the inevitable firesale and spending the next few years continuing to tread water.

 

I'm not rooting for us to lose games, but let's say we can go on a nice little run in the second half and win 75-80 games. This helps us how exactly?

[DuWayne Steurer]

Not sure it is a good thing but no longer worst record in baseball.

 

That's what the game has become? Where "fans" want utter failure to enhance draft position? That's what I hate about the NBA. You'd think that in baseball where the draft is still a big crapshoot, and summers watching complete ineptitude are so depressing that fans wouldn't be like that.

 

The Brewers no longer have the worst record in baseball, because news flash, they aren't the worst team in baseball. The longer the season goes, the more a team's record is reflective of a team's strength. It's become fashionable around the game to say "Brewers suck". Just heard Gordon Wittenmeyer of the Chicago Tribune say that on Chicago radio this morning. He's wrong. I've seen a lot of worse Brewer teams in my day. A lot. A lot of people were saying the "Brewers suck" in 1991 too when that team was 43-60 in early August. But they still had a very good roster. They could have easily traded off a lot of talent that year but they held on to it, and finished incredibly strong, winning 40 of their last 59 games and that was followed up by an exciting 1992 season. This team's roster is still decent. Maybe not on the level of the 91 team, but for a variety of reasons, most notably a 2-13 start and a rash of injuries, they haven't played anywhere near the level they are capable of, yet.

 

I said pretty much the same thing in another thread but it got shrugged off as "well they're still in last place so they're the worst team". Brewers have been 18 - 21 since May 1st, .

 

 

18-21 is still below .500, which is not good.

 

I'm not saying the Brewers are the worst team in baseball, but they're at best a .500 caliber ball club as they're currently built.

 

I'd like to see some of the younger talent get a longer look (Jungmann, Cravy, Sardinas, heck, even Arcia) and I'm excited to see some of the pieces we get back in trades for dead weight like Parra, Ramirez and Broxton, but I don't hold any illusions to what this team is.

 

There ARE reasons to watch, and like you, I will never root to lose any individual game, but I'm just not feeling the mojo with this team.

[FVBrewerFan]

I said pretty much the same thing in another thread but it got shrugged off as "well they're still in last place so they're the worst team". Brewers have been 18 - 21 since May 1st, but because they lost 17 games in April, no one cares about how they've been since then (which is much better than their April record "shows").

 

I was the one who "shrugged you off," but I didn't mean to come across like that. Very simply, you can't just say a team had a horrendous start, and under .500 since so they're "not that bad." Yes they are. The record doesn't lie, and there are swings in every season. Could they have a 15-5 streak? Sure. But they're also likely to have another 5-15 streak.

 

And I wouldn't say no one cares how they've been since April. People are still going to the games, still watching them on TV. I still watch most of the games.

 

I don't think very many people WANT them to lose and get the #1 pick overall. But we can't control what they do, so I don't think there's anything wrong with saying there is an upside if they are the worst or 2nd worst team this year. No, I don't watch 150 games a year hoping they lose, that would be pretty depressing.

[adambr2]

I said pretty much the same thing in another thread but it got shrugged off as "well they're still in last place so they're the worst team". Brewers have been 18 - 21 since May 1st, but because they lost 17 games in April, no one cares about how they've been since then (which is much better than their April record "shows").

 

I was the one who "shrugged you off," but I didn't mean to come across like that. Very simply, you can't just say a team had a horrendous start, and under .500 since so they're "not that bad." Yes they are. The record doesn't lie, and there are swings in every season. Could they have a 15-5 streak? Sure. But they're also likely to have another 5-15 streak.

 

And I wouldn't say no one cares how they've been since April. People are still going to the games, still watching them on TV. I still watch most of the games.

 

I don't think very many people WANT them to lose and get the #1 pick overall. But we can't control what they do, so I don't think there's anything wrong with saying there is an upside if they are the worst or 2nd worst team this year. No, I don't watch 150 games a year hoping they lose, that would be pretty depressing.

 

Pretty much reflects my feelings exactly. Just like a really good start was the reason we were in first most of last season, you can't write off a bad start and say it's not indicative of the team. Really good teams have 18-21 stretches, and so do really bad teams. It doesn't mean they're an 18-21 team. They're a 23-38 team, which is indicative of their play this year.

 

There's enough time left that they'll probably go on a good run, and there's enough time left where they'll probably have another 1-10 stretch at some point. All in all, playoff goals this year are no longer realistic. I think we all know they're not going 67-34 the rest of the way, which is what they would roughly need to do. They aren't going to play near-perfect ball for 101 games.

 

I still root for the team every day and prefer they win but I certainly see the benefits in a top 5 pick next year.