BA Brewers top 10 prospect list

[miggs721]

From JP on BO forums

 

 

MILWAUKEE BREWERS

1. TYRONE TAYLOR, OF

2. ORLANDO ARCIA, SS/2B

3. CLINT COULTER, C/OF

4. MONTE HARRISON, OF

5. GILBERT LARA, SS

6. WEI-CHUNG WANG, LHP

7. TAYLOR WILLIAMS, RHP

8. DEVIN WILLIAMS, RHP

9. TYLER WAGNER, RHP

10. TAYLOR JUNGMANN, RHP

 

BEST TOOLS

Best Hitter For Average – Tyrone Taylor

Best Power Hitter – Clint Coulter

Best Strike-Zone Discipline – Jason Rogers

Fastest Baserunner – Johnny Davis

Best Athlete – Tyrone Taylor

Best Fastball – Damien Magnifico

Best Curveball – Jorge Lopez

Best Slider – Kodi Medeiros

Best Changeup – Brooks Hall

Best Control – Taylor Williams

Best Defensive Catcher – Adam Weisenburger

Best Defensive Infielder – Yadiel Rivera

Best Infield Arm – Orlando Arcia

Best Defensive Outfielder – Tyrone Taylor

Best Outfield Arm – Monte Harrison

 

2018 LINEUP –

Catcher – Jonathan Lucroy

First Base – Ryan Bruan

Second Base – Scooter Gennett

Third Base – Jean Segura

Shortstop – Orlando Arcia

Left Field – Clint Coulter

Centerfield – Tyrone Taylor

Right Field – Carlos Gomez

No. 1 Starter – Yovani Gallardo

No. 2 Starter – Wily Peralta

No. 3 Starter – Jimmy Nelson

No. 4 Starter – Taylor Williams

No. 5 Starter – Devin Williams

Closer – David Goforth

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[SRB]

Wei-Chung Wang at #6, very interesting. These lists are always preposterous and a waste of time, of course, but interesting nonetheless.

[pete]

I'm surprised Wang didn't lose prospect eligibility. The tools are interesting for those of us less familiar with some of the players.

[Outlander]

I'm glad that BA can differentiate between rookie status and prospect status. Still surprised Wang is #6 though.

[miggs721]

They obviously loved what they saw of Wang as a starter in the AFL and like his potential in that role. Still very young, looking forward to seeing how he does in Brevard or wherever it may be to start the season

[igor67]

Kind of interesting that Harrison and Lara placed so high on potential and tools, but our other 2 first rounders this year didn't make the top 10.

[miggs721]

shows that our system is finally having some depth, thats what i attribute it to, if you look at STL's top 10, that is nothing to write home about...

[sheetskout]

Are they really saying that Tyrone Taylor who as quoted in the full scouting report as "not a burner" is going to push an all-world CF like Gomez over to RF? I don't see that happening.

 

They must not think a ton of Medeiros, either.

[TheCrew07]

Are they really saying that Tyrone Taylor who as quoted in the full scouting report as "not a burner" is going to push an all-world CF like Gomez over to RF? I don't see that happening.

 

They must not think a ton of Medeiros, either.

 

Gomez is going to price himself out of Milwaukee, Taylor and Gomez will not be in the same outfield together. Regardless in 2018 Gomez will be 32 and it's highly unlikely he'll be running even as well as he does now.

[miggs721]

Give Kodi time, he looked great at times right out of high school, once again, BA is putting more established guys like Taylor Williams and Jungmann in the Top 10, one good season by Kodi and Devin, they both may be top 5 material...Once again, i like the looks of the system in general, and another solid pick come June it will be even better. I also think Harrison will be in the Top 3 come next year, he has special written all over him

[SRB]

I don't understand the logic whereby Lara is #5 and Medeiros is not in the top 10. Are you going based on pure stuff/upside or not?

 

Oh well, doesn't Tom H basically write these or something?

[TheCrew07]

I said what I had to say about Medeiros during the draft discussions and I'm not going to continually beat that drum like I did with Jungmann, it's not worth the effort.

 

TH gets a list from the Brewers and then BA tweaks the list, but Tom does the chat.

 

All of the lists are referencing scouting reports from this past season, instructs, and the AFL. Kodi didn't exactly set the world on fire out of the gate or in instructs, neither did the other 1st rounder Gatewood and he's not in this top 10 list either, Sickels had Gatewood all the way down at #18. As far as Gatewood goes, I made my thoughts quite clear on him prior to the draft as well.

 

Lara was apparently very impressive during instructs as was previously noted around here, I believe MH linked tweets about him being stateside but I don't remember when as I typically read that stuff at work. Unfortunately all social media is blocked when I do so.

[umphrey]

I'm surprised at some of those pitchers. I would have expected Kodi or Lopez over Williams/Williams/Wang.

 

I have high expectations for Lara and Gatewood looks like Roache 2.0

[pete]

I'm surprised at some of those pitchers. I would have expected Kodi or Lopez over Williams/Williams/Wang.

 

I don't remember anything specific from BA about Medeiros, but remember to many he is a future reliever and one with strong splits no less.

 

The BA person assigned to the Brewers is on their podcast (free) regularly. He usually bubbles excitement and looooooves Joey Gallo and this or that player. He saw Lopez once and his voice was kind of monotone and he was eh, nothing special, two pitches... future reliever.

 

I'm not sure how different it is from other systems, but it seems like every top prospect list for the Brewers is significantly different. I interpret that as a lot of volatility.

[Jenkins5]

I'm surprised at some of those pitchers. I would have expected Kodi or Lopez over Williams/Williams/Wang.

 

I have high expectations for Lara and Gatewood looks like Roache 2.0

 

Gatewood is a young kid who could catch fire if he makes more contact. I saw that he has gone from 185 to 203 this offseason and is working very hard. What you have with him is a strictly boom or bust prospect. Either he will learn to see the ball, make contact, and be a major impact bat or he will be an all or nothing swinger who never lives up to the kid who has talented enough to be consider as a top pick.

 

Lara came to Miller Park and took BP there and lit it up. Went to instructional ball and he tore it up. I forgot where I saw all the posts of how he was doing (twitter maybe). He most likely will be in Arizona to start year unless they feel he is not ready for the transition to America yet.

 

Kodi wasn't impressive and was widely considered a reach by most. Not surprising he didn't crack it. If he comes out and preforms this year he will climb up.

[Jenkins5]

I'm surprised at some of those pitchers. I would have expected Kodi or Lopez over Williams/Williams/Wang.

 

I don't remember anything specific from BA about Medeiros, but remember to many he is a future reliever and one with strong splits no less.

 

The BA person assigned to the Brewers is on their podcast (free) regularly. He usually bubbles excitement and looooooves Joey Gallo and this or that player. He saw Lopez once and his voice was kind of monotone and he was eh, nothing special, two pitches... future reliever.

I'm not sure how different it is from other systems, but it seems like every top prospect list for the Brewers is significantly different. I interpret that as a lot of volatility.

 

There are games where a pitcher just has it that night and you leave the stadium in love. Other times that pitcher may not have great stuff and you leave with a bad impression. Lopez has taken strides and continues to fill out to his projected body and arm. He was a young/ raw Puerto Rican star Volleyball player who was drafted based on his future projection. His arm is topping out at 94-95 now I believe. He still has a chance. AA this season will give us a lot better look at him and some of those other guys (Reed Taylor Roache, Arcia, Rivera unless bumped to AAA? and the rest of the group.

[bork]

How do they come up with the 2018 lineup? Segura at 3B and Gallardo still with the team (and #1 SP)? No and No.

[brewcrewdue80]

All I know, is that you can look at the Splits of the hitters. And the man I'm drooling about Arcia had a .290Avg vs RHP and I think like .282 vs LHP. You look down his monthly numbers and it reads very nicely as well. Consistency with a flash of upside in June with 3HRs slg over .500.

 

I cannot believe he's still not cracking top 100 lists in all of Baseball. Arcia is far and away the Brewers best prospect not only in today's talent, but to help the Brewers Major League team the soonest. Jungmann may help the team in 2015 but not with the impact Arcia will provide.

 

Coulter had nice splits vs LHP, and vs RHP honestly. You look at triple the ABs and he's hitting triple the 2bs triple the HRs just some less Singles. Strong sign for his bat.

 

I'm not impressed with Devin Williams at this point. Just 66IP last season in Rookie ball. It'll be 2020 at that rate graduating levels before he makes the ML squad, which makes him 25, 26 like so many Brewer Prospects to make a ML team. Jungmann will be 25, Wagner turns 24 moving to AA, Taylor William will be 23...All these pitching prospects are going to be 25 when they make the ML team. One holds hope the Medeiros, gains more control of his nasty stuff and catapults up the system when that happens to see ML action before the age of 23.

 

Taylor shouldn't be at the top of this list especially ahead of Arcia, or Coulter for that matter. His bat won't meet expectations, and at best will be a Jean Segura clone. His ranking has to clearly be on his Defensive prowess, with hopes that being young he finds ways to hit 10more HRs in a season.

 

The impact talent is still lacking and thats why a guy like Gilbert Lara cracks #5 and Wang is at #6. Lara to me got some of that ranking because Milw paid 3mil for him. That's more money than any other Brewer prospect on this list. Wang has the velocity, and showed the Control which has seemingly been what holds Brewer pitching prospects back. That's why I see him ahead of the others. Wagner and T. Williams are nice and all but again, they're looking to graduate best case age 25 season. Rookie struggles result in age 26 season they begin to catch on so it'd be age 27 they begin doing at least ML Avg stuff. It'd be different if Wagner or Williams were doing CJ Edwards type numbers: 237IP-140hits-91BBs-294Ks! by age 22. That's the kind of numbers to get excited about. Medeiros I believe can become that type of pitcher.

 

Medeiros imo should be on the list instead of Devin Williams who should be outside the top 10 at the moment. Devin Williams and Gatewood could make the list truly exciting in 2015 if they make better progress when paired with Lara, Arcia, Medieros, Harrison, and Wang. That would give the team 7 strong prospects, young who show very nice impact potential.

[igor67]

I think this tends to show-up more with Brewer pitchers, but the manner in which they go about coaching them at the lowest level makes them look worse than they are. They tend to shelve pitches to focus on command of the fastball and bring back the strikeout pitches later on. So I don't think there is a lot of predictive value in using Rookie ball numbers to project how fast he will advance, the Brewers are definitely more conservative at moving guys up then sentiment on the board often hopes for, but they have certainly shown that they will move guys a couple levels a year when they think they are ready.

[SoupTown]

Re the coaching style of concentrating on 4 seam down in the zone - for our pitchers... it means we need to wait until aa and aaa to see what our guys might be. I would thnk this year will be a watershed year. Did this stategy work and yield MLB ready performers

 

I don't agree with it. Would let pitchers with great curves and sliders use them to get giddy A ball numbers and show great potential. Now we have a bunch of guys that our coaches say they kept them in wraps. 2015 is the year of unwrapping. Maybe it heralds a great new Brewer dynasty

[Eye Black]

Baseball America 2015 Revised Top 10 Prospects (for each team)

 

Updated Brewers list slots Luis Sardinas at #3. I didn't think he was eligible, so it is a somewhat surprising addition.

[dacbrewers]

Baseball America didn't even have Wang ranked in the top 20 in 2013 for the Pirates and now he is #6 or 7 for the Brewers. Doesn't make any sense and these rankings never do.

[pete]

I think Wang looked pretty good in the Arizona Fall League.

[trwi7]

Baseball America didn't even have Wang ranked in the top 20 in 2013 for the Pirates and now he is #6 or 7 for the Brewers. Doesn't make any sense and these rankings never do.

 

Uhh, sure it does. The Pirates farm system is much better than ours.