2014-09-17 Brewers (Fiers) at Cardinals (Wainwright), 7:15 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 2-0]

[pacopete4]

Far from over? Losing today makes tomorrow a must win and you probably have to sweep the Pirates. Ain't gonna happen.

 

 

We'll just hang our "We didn't have a losing record banner" and the Cards will plop another NL Central banner and have a shot at something meaningful.

"First place for 150 days" banner?

 

 

Lol exactly. It's just such a joke.

[vegasbrewcrew1993]

braun swings at so much outside junk that it is easy to call those balls against him. i bet if he swung less at outside junk, umpires would be more hesitant to call junk like that. the zones that hitters create for themselves have an influence. braun's bad over-aggressive free swinging rep certainly doesn't help.

[chickinbrickin]

Need to log on and chime in on that Braun AB. I cannot stand arrogant umps who feel like they are bigger than the game. Your job is to shut up and make the right calls. No one cares who you are and you should be shown up if you make a horrible call. Not to mention two horrible calls back to back.

 

Neither of those pitches were even iffy.

[AZBrewCrew]

Far from over? Losing today makes tomorrow a must win and you probably have to sweep the Pirates. Ain't gonna happen.

 

 

We'll just hang our "We didn't have a losing record banner" and the Cards will plop another NL Central banner and have a shot at something meaningful.

"First place for 150 days" banner?

 

 

Lol exactly. It's just such a joke.

We can celebrate it as well for the next 20 years just like 1982..

[adambr2]

I have a hard time blaming Braun for taking a pitch well off the outside corner. That's on blue for being a narcissist who wants to put his mark on a huge game and gets caught up in the emotion of it all.

[folly412]

As usual, Fiers is awesome. As usual, our offense is inept.

[BuckyBrewer61]

Being a Brewers fan sucks.

[treego14]

Why isn't Roenicke out there barking at the umpire for the ridiculous petty calls the home plate umpire called on Braun?

[TooLiveBrew]

Why isn't Roenicke out there barking at the umpire for the ridiculous petty calls the home plate umpire called on Braun?

I thought the exact same thing.

[treego14]

Roenicke has no gumption!

[trwi7]

Despite that awful call, the Brewers throughout the game had some of the most pathetic at bats I've ever seen.

[superfly]

I'm watching the Cards broadcast and they have no shame either...they ate that Braun call right up. Something to the likes of a "HOW ABOUT THAT, EVEN BETTER ON RYAN BRAUN!" They can all burn down there for all I am concerned.

[pacopete4]

Hopefully that ump is graded on that at bat with Bruan. That's awful.

[jerichoholicninja]

Why isn't Roenicke out there barking at the umpire for the ridiculous petty calls the home plate umpire called on Braun?

I thought the exact same thing.

 

The last two Brewer managers have had the same ho hum, don't ruffle any feathers attitude and they continually get shown up by other teams and screwed by umps. I really hope whoever is next isn't the same.

[dlk9s]

braun swings at so much outside junk that it is easy to call those balls against him. i bet if he swung less at outside junk, umpires would be more hesitant to call junk like that. the zones that hitters create for themselves have an influence. braun's bad over-aggressive free swinging rep certainly doesn't help.

No.

[vegasbrewcrew1993]

as the brits would say ''ahh bloody hell, bunch of wankers''!

 

unfortunately at the moment this team resembles a giant steaming turd more than a playoff contender. this season might go down for me as the worst in team history. you know why? because at one point they actually looked like championship contenders. they are not a bad team. they literally tripped, got up, and kept tripping over and over and over. i actually had expectations for this team. i don't care about losing seasons like 2002 and 2013. i knew that those teams sucked. i had literally no expectations last year. this year i did and that's why it's going to end up being an awful year. this collapse i'll remember. 2013 i'll forget. damn shame they wasted such great pitching this year. can't recall the last time the brewers were loaded on pitchers.

[vegasbrewcrew1993]

braun swings at so much outside junk that it is easy to call those balls against him. i bet if he swung less at outside junk, umpires would be more hesitant to call junk like that. the zones that hitters create for themselves have an influence. braun's bad over-aggressive free swinging rep certainly doesn't help.

No.

brilliant response. provided a real solid argument there....

[rickh150]

How RR can leave Clark, arguably our hottest bat on the bench.....

-in a pennant race

-against the 1st place team

- did I mention hottest bat

- when the team cannot hit

- when the team is not hitting for power

 

IS BEYOND ME....

 

By the way, who's pitching tomorrow? Marcum? NLCS Game 6 logic= Playing Overbay at 1B now

 

VENTING HORRIBLY.... Man, play the hot hand! Get a clue!

[TURBO]

Braun had a better angle on that ball, Gomez should have surrendered that play to Braun who had a better angle to come up throwing and was right there.

 

Instead, Gomez makes 2 bad plays on the same play and costs us a run.

 

Darn!

Braun can't feel his thumb and has no accuracy or no power behind his throws

 

So the result of Braun making that play would have been worse than what Gomez did? I stand by my original statement, Braun had the better angle on that play, he should have been the one to throw that ball back into the infield, and maybe we would have had a better chance at the plate.

 

Makes no difference now since we couldn't score one single freaking run...

[MNBrew]

Roenicke has plenty of gumption. Getting ejected would do exactly what in that scenario? It can't make our hitters hit or Adam Wainwright any less of a master out there on the mound!

 

I hate this losing, too, but it gets old how some posters here have such a negative disposition against any & every Brewers manager that we could win the World Series and and people would still say our manager sucks and should be fired . . . and the GM should be fired, too, for making moves that enabled the Brewers to win rather than build for the future . . .

 

Tonight I wondered why they didn't try to go more aggressively small-ball-wise with Gomez twice getting on base. If Wainwright's having "one of those nights," which clearly he was again, I totally understand not wanting to squander the few chances we had. But Wainwright's who he is, and sometimes you have to gamble, which the Brewers clearly didn't tonight. Instead, the Cards got 2 runs and Wainwright pitched mistake-free thereafter (albeit with a few absurdly generous WRONG calls from the HP ump).

 

I truly hate the Cardinals winning, and thus especially I hate losing to them, but Wainwright's having a Cy Young-caliber season, too, by most any standard -- unfortunately for him, it's just not to the same extent Kershaw is this year.

 

Our offense is so anemic right now. That's become by far the biggest problem, as it's been the majority of the 2nd half. The ugly losing skid will have cost us the playoffs. Even though our pitching has come around and we've won 5 out of 7, it's now PITT & StL who control their own fates, and they're doing so most handily right now. It's sure not over yet, but tonight's outcome sure hurt.

[vegasbrewcrew1993]

Roenicke has plenty of gumption. Getting ejected would do exactly what in that scenario? It can't make our hitters hit or Adam Wainwright any less of a master out there on the mound!

 

I hate this losing, too, but it gets old how some posters here have such a negative disposition against any & every Brewers manager that we could win the World Series and and people would still say our manager sucks and should be fired . . . and the GM should be fired, too, for making moves that enabled the Brewers to win rather than build for the future . . .

 

Tonight I wondered why they didn't try to go more aggressively small-ball-wise with Gomez twice getting on base. If Wainwright's having "one of those nights," which clearly he was again, I totally understand not wanting to squander the few chances we had. But Wainwright's who he is, and sometimes you have to gamble, which the Brewers clearly didn't tonight. Instead, the Cards got 2 runs and Wainwright pitched mistake-free thereafter (albeit with a few absurdly generous WRONG calls from the HP ump).

 

I truly hate the Cardinals winning, and thus especially I hate losing to them, but Wainwright's having a Cy Young-caliber season, too, by most any standard -- unfortunately for him, it's just not to the same extent Kershaw is this year.

this is what i don't get. RRR knows Wainwright's history against this team. You could tell a few innings into the game that Wainwright was going to be close to unhittable tonight. Why just sit back and play conservative against him? What does that accomplish? The result is going to be the same that it's always been. Maybe if they had tried something aggressive with Gomez on the bases, then maybe just maybe it could have rattled Wainwright just a bit. You never know. Maybe it could have blown up completely and the Brewers would have lost anyways. Who knows.

[LouisEly]

That was a disgraceful strike 3 call on Braun. Always nice to see an ump who wants to be bigger than the game.

Eric Gregg has apparently proven that you can come back from the dead.

[TURBO]

How RR can leave Clark, arguably our hottest bat on the bench.....

-in a pennant race

-against the 1st place team

- did I mention hottest bat

- when the team cannot hit

- when the team is not hitting for power

 

IS BEYOND ME....

 

By the way, who's pitching tomorrow? Marcum? NLCS Game 6 logic= Playing Overbay at 1B now

 

VENTING HORRIBLY.... Man, play the hot hand! Get a clue!

 

It's the same guy who started Mark Kotsay in CF for a NLCS game...Nothing the guy does or doesn't do ever surprises me anymore. I hope change comes this off season, really BIG change...

[jerichoholicninja]

Roenicke has plenty of gumption. Getting ejected would do exactly what in that scenario? It can't make our hitters hit or Adam Wainwright any less of a master out there on the mound!

 

I hate this losing, too, but it gets old how some posters here have such a negative disposition against any & every Brewers manager that we could win the World Series and and people would still say our manager sucks and should be fired . . . and the GM should be fired, too, for making moves that enabled the Brewers to win rather than build for the future . . .

 

Tonight I wondered why they didn't try to go more aggressively small-ball-wise with Gomez twice getting on base. If Wainwright's having "one of those nights," which clearly he was again, I totally understand not wanting to squander the few chances we had. But Wainwright's who he is, and sometimes you have to gamble, which the Brewers clearly didn't tonight. Instead, the Cards got 2 runs and Wainwright pitched mistake-free thereafter (albeit with a few absurdly generous WRONG calls from the HP ump).

 

I truly hate the Cardinals winning, and thus especially I hate losing to them, but Wainwright's having a Cy Young-caliber season, too, by most any standard -- unfortunately for him, it's just not to the same extent Kershaw is this year.

this is what i don't get. RRR knows Wainwright's history against this team. You could tell a few innings into the game that Wainwright was going to be close to unhittable tonight. Why just sit back and play conservative against him? What does that accomplish? The result is going to be the same that it's always been. Maybe if they had tried something aggressive with Gomez on the bases, then maybe just maybe it could have rattled Wainwright just a bit. You never know. Maybe it could have blown up completely and the Brewers would have lost anyways. Who knows.

 

The only way you "get him rattled" is by getting hits and scoring runs.

[TURBO]

...but it gets old how some posters here have such a negative disposition against any & every Brewers manager that we could win the World Series and and people would still say our manager sucks and should be fired . . .

 

For every poster who wants RRR fired, there is also another poster who wants to forgive RRR for every stupid thing he does. It feels like there are as many posters here making excuses for the ineptness of our manager as there are posters who want him gone...