NEW - BF.net Fan Community Top 25 Prospects Project V. 2.0 - August 2014

[reillymcshane]

The trade deadline has passed and it's time to update the our community prospect list. Please post your top 25 prospects, in order. IMPORTANT: Do not post less than 25, or your list won't be included in the final tally. Submissions are due by Tuesday, August 19. Once the totals are in, I'll post results within a few days. Just post your list in this thread, or message me.

 

Here are some updates, news and resources to consider as you make your list:

 

1. Mitch Hanigar (#6 on our last list) and Anthony Banda (unranked) have been traded. So don't vote for them.

 

2. Jimmy Nelson is technically a rookie at this time, but let's NOT include him in our prospect list. He'll likely exceed rookie status in the next few weeks - maybe before this list is actually published.

 

3. I'm making Wei-Chung Wang eligible for our prospect list. I know he technically isn't a prospect in the eyes of MLB, but for our purposes, he's a prospect. So let's treat him as one in our listing.

 

4. Player Notes:

 

- Hunter Morris (#11) is out for the rest of the season with a broken arm

- Nick Delmonico (#13) was suspended for 50 games

- Tyler Cravy (#15) has been on the DL since late June

- Hiram Burgos (#33) is out for the season after shoulder sugery

- Johnny Hellweg (#27) is out for the season after TJ surgery

 

5. Newcomers to consider on this list:

 

- Franly Mallen and Nicolas Pierre, last year's big International signings, both are playing in the Dominican Summer League

- Top picks in 2014 draft, including Kodi Medeiros, Jake Gatewood and Monte Harrison

- International bonus baby Gilbert Lara (signed for $3+ million). Lara won't play until 2015.

 

6. Resources - if you're interested at looking at other prospect lists, here's some quick links:

 

BrewerFan Top 20 List - From May 2014 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=31355

 

MLB Top 20 (recently updated) - http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2014/#list=mil

 

John Sickels (Pre season list) - http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/1/30/5363560/milwaukee-brewers-top-20-prospects-for-2014

 

Discples of Uecker Top 30 (pre season) - http://disciplesofuecker.com/dou-2013-top-30-prospects-1-10/8478

 

Miller Park Prospects top 25 (from May) - http://millerparkprospects.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/milwaukee-brewers-top-25-prospect-rankings-5/

 

7. Stats - Here are direct links to all the Brewer organizational players by position and club:

 

Hitters: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2014-organization-batting.shtml?redir

Pitchers: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2014-organization-pitching.shtml?redir

 

Or, if you prefer, here are links to each of the Brewer minor league affiliates:

 

Nashville (AAA) - http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=556&stn=true&sid=t556

 

Huntsville (AA) - http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=559&stn=true&sid=t559

 

Brevard County (A+) - http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=559&stn=true&sid=t559

 

Wisconsin (A) - http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=572&stn=true&sid=t572

 

Helena (Rookie) - http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=433&stn=true&sid=t433

 

Maryvale - (AZL Rookie) - http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=t_ibp&cid=406

 

DSL - (Dominican Summer League Rookie) - http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=607

[igor67]

1. Tyrone Taylor

2. Orlando Arcia

3. Clint Coulter

4. Kodi Medeiros

5. Monte Harrison

6. Devin Williams

7. Jake Gatewood

8. Gilbert Lara

9. Taylor Williams

10. Tyler Wagner

11. David Denson

12. Jorge Lopez

13. Chris Macfarland

14. Brandon Diaz

15. Taylor Jungman

16. Jed Bradley

17. Jason Rogers

18. Victor Roache

19. Tyler Cravy

20. Micheal Reed

21. Wei-Chung Wang

22. David Goforth

23. Shawn Zarraga

24. Hobbs Johnson

25. Micheal Ratteree

 

Next 5 in no particular order would be Matos, Magnifico, Neuhaus, Demuth, and the DSL guys. Given the extreme youth this far down the list there is a lot of sleeper potential and just a lot of room for these guys to move up. I'd definitely say the top 14 are pretty interesting to follow with good ceilings and most of them have started to produce at some meaningful level. I tend to value guys who have made the jumps to higher levels, but that is hard with the current system especially when a lot of the guys in AA or AAA who are producing seem to have leveled off at their ceilings.

[Manty Brewer Fan]

The following is my version. I'm much more excited about this system than I was before the season. Even if Nelson would have been eligible, Arcia still would have been my #1, think the kid will be a star and overall I'm very excited about our top 3.

 

1. Orlando Arcia

2. Tyrone Taylor

3. Monte Harrison

4. Kodi Meideros

5. Clint Coulter

6. Jacob Gatewood

7. Gilbert Lara

8. Taylor Williams

9. Jorge Lopez

10. Devin Williams

11. Brandon Diaz

12. Tyler Wagner

13. Chris McFarland

14. Taylor Jungman

15. Jed Bradley

16. Troy Stokes

17. David Denson

18. Tucker Neuhaus

19. Jason Rogers

20. Wei-Chung Wang

21. Victor Roache

22. Tanner Poppe

23. Michael Ratteree

24. Michael Reed

25. Dustin Demuth

26. Chad Thompson

27. David Burkhalter

28. Franly Mallen

29. David Goforth

30. Cy Sneed

 

Next five

Sthervin Matos

Damien Magnifico

Miguel Diaz

Nicolas Pierre

Hobbs Johnson

 

**** Edit - Missed/Forgot Neuhaus.

[WV Brew]

1. Orlando Arcia (SS>CF)

2. Tyrone Taylor

3. Clint Coulter

4. Tyler Wagner (has to be rewarded for incredible season)

5. Taylor Williams

6. Taylor Jungmann

7. Monte Harrsion

8. Kodi Medeiros

9. Devin Williams

10. Tyler Cravy

11. Jed Bradley

12. Gilbert Lara

13. Jorge Lopez

14. Chris McFarland

15. David Denson

16. Jake Gatewood

17. Wei-Chung Wang

18. Hunter Morris

19. Jason Rogers

20. Michael Reed

21. Yadiel Rivera

22. Nicolas Pierre

23. Angel Ortega

24. Francisco Castillo

25. Nathan Orf (I'm the only one who will vote for him but leading the FSL in BA and OBP?)

[guylanderfridancies]

1. Tyrone Taylor

2. Orlando Arcia

3. Clint Coulter

4. Tyler Wagner

5. Tyler Cravy

6. Taylor Williams

7. Taylor Jungmann

8. Devin Williams

9. Jed bradley

10. Jason Rogers

11. David Denson

12. Jorge Lopez

13. Hunter Morris

14. Nick Ramirez

15. Michael Ratteree

16. Brandon Diaz

17. Chris Macfarland

18. Michael Reed

19. Dustin Demuth

20. Wei-Chung Wang

21. Victor Roache

22. Shawn Zarraga

23. Gilbert Lara

24. David Goforth

25. Drew Gagnon

[torts]

OP, a quick way to see organizational stats in the minors on one page is on baseball reference, incase you want to update and add these links instead of individual team.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2014-organization-pitching.shtml?redir

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2014-organization-batting.shtml?redir

[fondybrewfan]

1. Tyrone Taylor

2. Clint Coulter

3. Orlando Arcia

4. Monte Harrison

5. Taylor Williams

6. Jacob Gatewood

7. Kodi Medeiros

8. Jorge Lopez

9. Tyler Wagner

10. Tyler Cravy

11. Devin Williams

12. David Denson

13. Brandon Diaz

14. Gilbert Lara (Have a hard time ranking him harder with no experience at all)

15. Tucker Neuhas

16. Jason Rogers

17. Jed Bradley

18. Taylor Jungmann

19. Shawn Zarraga

20. Michael Reed

21. Dustin Demuth

22. Wi Chung Wang

23. Victor Roache

24. Nick Ramirez

25. Chris McFarland

[Scooter102783]

1. Tyrone Taylor

2. Orlando Arcia

3. Clint Coulter

4. Monte Harrison

5. Taylor Williams

6. Devin Williams

7. Kodi Medeiros

8. Tyler Wagner

9. Gilbert Lara

10. Jorge Lopez

11. David Denson

12. Jed Bradley

13. Jacob Gatewood

14. Wei-Chung Wang

15. Chris McFarland

16. Michael Reed

17. Tyler Cravy

18. Tucker Neuhaus

19. Brandon Diaz

20. Victor Roache

21. Jason Rogers

22. Taylor Jungmann

23. Shawn Zarraga

24. Hobbs Johnson

25. Michael Ratteree

[dacbrewers]

1. Tyrone Taylor

2. Orlando Arcia

3. Clint Coulter

4. Tyler Cravy

5. Tyler Wagner

6. Taylor Williams

7. Taylor Jungmann

8. David Goforth

9. Jed bradley

10. Jason Rogers

11. David Denson

12. Jorge Lopez

13. Hunter Morris

14. Nick Ramirez

15. Michael Ratteree

16. Brandon Diaz

17. Chris Macfarland

18. Michael Reed

19. Dustin Demuth

20. Wei-Chung Wang

21. Victor Roache

22. Shawn Zarraga

23. Gilbert Lara

24. Devin Williams

25. Drew Gagnon

[reillymcshane]

OP, a quick way to see organizational stats in the minors on one page is on baseball reference, incase you want to update and add these links instead of individual team.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2014-organization-pitching.shtml?redir

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2014-organization-batting.shtml?redir

Torts, thanks. This is a great addition. I added the links to the intro post under stats.

[FVBrewerFan]

1. Clint Coulter (Power over tools)

2. Tyrone Taylor

3. Orlando Arcia

4. Taylor Williams

5. Tyler Wagner

6. Jason Rogers (This high mostly because he will be in MLB at least)

7. David Denson (Young and not over-matched at low A)

8. Jorge Lopez

9. Devin Williams

10. Victor Roache (Starting to hit a little for avg...finally)

11. Brandon Diaz

12. Tyler Cravy

13. Shawn Zarraga

14. Nick Ramirez (Kris Davis track? Not a huge prospect, but may surprise?)

15. Taylor Jungmann

16. Wei-Chung Wang

17. Monte Harrison

18. Jake Gatewood

19. Kodi Medeiros

20. Gilbert Lara

21. Michael Ratteree (Power, and a pretty good RF)

22. Shervin Matos

23. Ariel Pena (Still shows signs of being a #5 SP)

24. Johnny Davis (Speed and defense, can hit some)

25. Taylor Brennan (Plays a great 3B, takes walks, lots of potential here)

 

Just don't feel good about ranking the 2014 guys higher yet. Not big on Reed or McFarland. Hard to keep saying with a straight face Jed Bradley is a top 20 prospect. Really tough right now, there are even more guys who could/should be in the Top 20- just not enough to go on yet.

[gregmag]

1. Tyrone Taylor

2. Orlando Arcia

3. Clint Coulter

4. Brandon Diaz

5. Monte Harrison

6. Taylor Williams

7. Tyler Wagner

8. David Denson

9. Jorge Lopez

10. Michael Reed

11. Kodi Medeiros

12. Jacob Gatewood

13. Taylor Jungmann

14. Devin Williams

15. Gilbert Lara

16. Chris McFarland

17. Sthervin Matos

18. Victor Roache

19. Ariel Pena

20. Nick Delmonico

21. Jed Bradley

22. Tyler Cravy

23. Tucker Neuhaus

24. Elvis Rubio

25. Luis Aviles

 

 

26. Wei-Chung Wang

27. Nicolas Pierre

28. Franly Mallen

29. Loantgel Segovia

30. Hobbs Johnson

31. Yadiel Rivera

32. Taylor Brennan

33. Omar Garcia

34. Brent Suter

35. Jason Rogers

36. Drew Gagnon

37. Michael Blazek

38. Shawn Zarraga

39. Johnny Hellweg

40. Brooks Hall

 

 

Edit: I didn't look at other posters' lists until I finished mine. The one change I made after seeing what others did and reviewing the numbers was replacing Wang with Cravy in the top 25. Cravy's season this year has benefited from a ridiculous BABIP of .223; I don't believe he's quite the guy we're seeing. But he has a couple of years of good pitching under his belt, and he's reached AAA.

 

Obviously I went more for potential over polish, though most of the younger guys I've listed have produced at least modestly well. My list doesn't have any full-time relievers; unless a guy is just an overpowering specialist, I don't see much hope for minor league relievers (I'm thinking of Goforth).

 

The system has some exciting prospects. Doing this exercise confirms my sense that we're on the right track.

[SRB]

1. Kodi Medeiros, LHP (18) - Poor debut so far, but his stuff is so nasty the control issues don't have to disappear entirely for him to be totally unhittable (e.g. young Randy Johnson). 11.6 K/9. The upside is tantalizing. Nobody in the system has a higher upside, in my opinion.

2. Orlando Arcia, SS (19) - Not sure how you can rank him behind Taylor; better defender, younger, offense not really that far behind.

3. Monte Harrison, CF (18) - Personally, I love physical tools until a guy shows he's never going to be able to tap into them (e.g. D'Vontrey Richardson). Harrison's pro debut not super exciting, but solid. Giving him the slight edge over Taylor.

4. Tyrone Taylor, CF (20) - Some more athleticism and upside. I guess I don't like him quite as much as others (though I still like him), because I don't see the evidence of an All Star ceiling quite yet.

5. Gilbert Lara, SS/3B (16?) - We really don't know anything about him, but the Brewers quadrupling their previous international signing record means something.

6. Jacob Gatewood, SS (18) - Early rookie league numbers mean almost nothing, but it would be nice to see him not struggle so much in his first taste of pro baseball. Ranking him this low because of that and because of questions about his position long-term. Still love the upside though. Thrilled that somebody like Gatewood is ranked this low in the current Brewers system.

7. Clint Coulter, C/DH (20) - Can't ignore a first-round pick putting up big numbers, but the fact remains that Coulter has played nearly half his games at DH (does not bode well for his chances of sticking at C). He's hopefully learning that when he shows patience (63 BB to 84 K this year) success follows. Happy he didn't end up getting traded.

8. Brandon Diaz, CF (19) - I'm not ranking him #1, but I trust that where there's smoke (PECOTA/agent39), there's fire. A touch less power so far, but he's basically replicating his 2013 numbers at the next higher level in 2014.

9. Taylor Williams, RHP (22) - He's not young for A-ball, but his results are impressive. I read that he got something of a late start in playing regular baseball in college, so if this is him finally taking off, watch out.

10. Taylor Jungmann, RHP (24) - He's not Eric Arnett. I still believe that Jungmann can be a useful MLB pitcher. No longer dreaming of an ace, but I could see him eating some innings as a #4/5 in the not-so-distant future.

11. Devin Williams, RHP (19)

12. Wei-Chung Wang, LHP (22) - He wasn't really a top prospect with the Pirates, but what does it mean that the Brewers went to such an unprecedented length to get him in the system? Will be fascinating to follow his career.

13. Tyler Wagner, RHP (23)

14. Jed Bradley, LHP (24)

15. Nicolas Pierre, CF (17)

16. Jorge Lopez, LHP (21)

17. Victor Roache, LF (22)

18. Michael Reed, RF (21)

19. Johnny Hellweg, RHP (25)

20. David Denson, 1B (19) - On-base percentage has taken a step back this season, but he's young for A-ball. Still intrigued about him combining his apparent power potential with his OBP skills.

21. Elvis Rubio, OF (20)

22. Yadiel Rivera, SS (22)

23. Dustin DeMuth, 3B (23)

24. Ariel Pena, RHP (25)

25. Joantgel Segovia, OF (17)

[Jenkins5]

1) Tyrone Taylor

2) Orlando Arcia

3) Clint Coulter

4) Gilbert Lara

5) Devin Williams

6) Monte Harrison

7) Jorge Lopez

8) Kodi Medeiros

9) David Denson

10) Taylor Williams

11) Jacob Gatewood

12) Tyler Wagner

13) Hunter Morris

14) Jed Bradley

15) Victor Roache

16) Michael Reed

17) Taylor Jungmann

18) Nick Ramirez

19) Chris McFarland

20) Tucker Neuhaus

21) Yadier Rivera

22) Sthervin Matos

23) Carlos Benlonis

24) Cameron Garfield

25) Nick Delmonico

[TheCrew07]

Please remember it's a top 25, not top 20, we've had 2 posters drop in top 20 lists now.

[FVBrewerFan]

Good reminder, I updated mine yesterday to bring it up to 25. Which is great, because I was able to add Ratterree and Brennan.

[docduany]

1. Tyrone Taylor

2. Orlando Arcia

3. Clint Coulter

4. Monte Harrison

5. Kodi Mediros

6. Taylor Jungmann

7. Jorge Lopez

8. Tyler Wagner

9. Jake Gatewood

10.Devin Williams

11. Wei-Chung Wang

12. Chris McFarland

13. Sthervin Matos

14. Jed Bradley

15. David Denson

16. Jason Rogers

17. Brandon Diaz

18. Carlos Belonis

19. Damien Magnifico

20. Taylor Williams

21. Dustin Demuth

22. Tyler Cravy

23. Shawn Zarraga

24. Tucker Neuhaus

25. David Goforth

 

26. Drew Gagon

27. Gilbert Lara

28.Michael Reed

29. Joantgel Segovia

30.Cameron Garfield

31.Nichols Pierre

32. Franly Malen

33. D'Vo

34. Victor Roache

35. Hunter Morris

36. Ariel Pena

37. Taylor Brennan

38. Yadiel Rivera

39. Jose Pena

40. Jacob Barnes

[Bombers]

[pre]# Name____ AVG/ERA OBP/WHIP_SLG OPS Level Age POS Selected

1 Clint Coulter 0.268 0.408 0.503 0.911 L-A 20 C 2012 - 1st round

2 Tyrone Taylor 0.284 0.333 0.423 0.756 A 20 CF 2012 - 2nd Round

3 Orlando Arcia 0.274 0.328 0.379 0.707 H-A 19 SS Int'l FA out of VE

4 Tyler Wagner 1.54 1.065 A+ 23 RHP 2012 - 4th round

5 Tyler Cravy 1.76 0.887 AAA 24 RHP 2009 - 17th round

6 Taylor Jungmann 4.00 1.358 AA-AAA 24 RHP 2011 - 1st round

7 Taylor Williams 2.36 0.944 A 22 RHP 2013 - 4th round

8 Kodi Medeiros 5.00 2.333 ROK 18 LHP 2014 - 1st round

9 Jake Gatewood 0.211 0.257 0.281 0.538 ROK 18 SS 2014 - 1st round

10 Gilbert Lara DSL SS 2014 - Int'l

11 Monte Harrison 0.248 0.390 0.325 0.715 ROK 18 RF 2014 - 2nd round

12 Shawn Zarraga 0.341 0.441 0.439 0.880 AAA 25 C 2007 - 44th round

13 Jason Rogers 0.283 0.350 0.443 0.793 AAA 26 3B 2010 - 32nd round

14 Jorge Lopez 4.03 1.290 A+ 21 RHP 2011 - 2nd round

15 Devin Williams 5.28 1.556 ROK 19 P 2013 - 2nd round

16 Brandon Diaz 0.281 0.374 0.419 0.793 RK 19 CF 2013 - 8th round

17 Victor Roache 0.220 0.288 0.383 0.671 A 22 OF 2012 - 1st round

18 Wei-Chung Wang 3.00 0.824 RK 22 LHP 2013 - Rule 5 draft

19 Joantgel Segovia 0.360 0.431 0.425 0.856 DSL 17 OF Int'l FA our of VE

20 Joshua Torres 2.27 1.150 RK 20 RHP Int'l FA out of PR

21 Chris Mcfarland 0.298 0.348 0.421 0.769 A 21 RHP 2011 - 18th round

22 Johel Atencio 0.311 0.354 0.378 0.732 DSL 17 C 2013 - International

23 Nicholas Pierre 0.267 0.319 0.405 0.724 DSL 17 CF 2013 - International

24 Nathan Orf 0.305 0.401 0.416 0.817 A+ 24 RF Undrafted

25 Jed Bradley 3.780 1.326 A-AA 24 LHP 2011 - 1st round[/pre]

[jjgott]

1. Orlando Arcia

2. Clint Coulter

3. Tyrone Taylor

4. Monte Harrison

5. Jorge Lopez

6. Kodi Medeiros

7. Devin Williams

8. Tyler Wagner

9. Jacob Gatewood

10. Michael Reed

11. Taylor Williams

12. Taylor Jungmann

13. Gilbert Lara

14. Chris McFarland

15. Victor Roache

16. Sthervin Matos

17. Brandon Diaz

18. David Denson

19. Wei-Chung Wang

20. Tucker Neuhaus

21. Jed Bradley

22. Nick Delmonico

23. Ariel Pena

24. Joantgel Segovia

25. Nicolas Pierre

[Mr Southpaw]

1. Coulter

2. Arcia

3. Taylor

4. Cravy

5. Denson

6. Wagner

7. Lopez

8. Jungman

9. T Williams

10 D Williams

11 Segovia

12 Lara

13 Delmonico

14 Zarraga

15 Harrison

16 Medeiros

17 Reed

18 Matos

19 B Diaz

20 Goforth

21 Demuth

22 Gagnon

23 Bradley

24 Gatewood

25 H Johnson

[IndyCrew]

1-Coulter

2-T Taylor

3-Arcia

4-Medeiros

5-D Williams

6-Gatewood

7-Harrison

8-Denson

9-Jungman

10-Lopez

11-Lara

12-Reed

13-Roach

14-T Wagner

15-J Bradley

16-T Williams

17-Mcfarland

18-B Diaz

19-T Cravy

20-Delmonico

21-Hellweg

22-Y Rivera

23-J Rogers

24-H Morris

25-Demuth

 

Next five: Pena, Neuhaus, Magnifico, Ratteree, Goforth

[reillymcshane]

Reminder, one more week to get your lists in! Keep them coming, everyone.

[heresrobin]

1. Orlando Arcia

2. Kodi Medeiros

3. Clint Coulter

4. Tyrone Taylor

5. Tyler Wagner

6. Jorge Lopez

7. Gilbert Lara

8. Devin Williams

9. David Denson

10. Monte Harrison

11. Jacob Gatewood

12. Hobbs Johnson

13. Ariel Pena

14. Taylor Jungmann

15. Taylor Williams

16. Michael Reed

17. Brandon Diaz

18. Chris McFarland

19. Jed Bradley

20. Wei-Chung Wang

21. Tyler Cravy

22. Nathan Orf

23. Joantgel Segovia

24. Brent Suter

25. Taylor Smith-Brennan

[hyerbro1]

1. Orlando Arcia

2. Clint Coulter

3. Tyrone Taylor

4. Jorge Lopez

5. Kodi Medeiros

6. Monte Harrison

7. Gilbert Yara

8. Jacob Gatewood

9. Devin Williams

10. Ariel Pena

11. Jason Rogers

12. Tyler Wagner

13. Jed Bradley

14. Brandon Diaz

15. Victor Roache

16. Taylor Williams

17. Wei-Chung Wang

18. Chris Mcfarland

19. David Denson

20. Sthervin Matos

21. David Goforth

22. Drew Gagnon

23. Hobbs Johnson

24. Taylor Jungman

25. Tucker Neuhaus

[Outlander]

1. O. Arcia

2. T. Taylor

3. M. Reed

4. C. Coulter

5. J. Rogers

6. B. Diaz

7. D. Denson

8. J. Lopez

9. T. Williams

10. T. Jungman

11. J. Gatewood

12. N. Pierre

13. G. Lara

14. D. Williams

15. T. Wagner

16. K. Medeiros

17. S. Matos

18. W. Wang

19. M. Harrison

20. A. Pena

21. T. Cravy

22. H. Gomez

23. N. Orf

24. M. Blazek

25. N. Delmonico