2014-05-26 Orioles (Tillman) at Brewers (Lohse), 1:10 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 7-6, 10 innings]

[brewcrewdue80]

This is crap. If you have run on contact on then why do you remove Lucroy? You can't tell me Lucroy running on contact vs Herrera running on contact there's going to be any amount of difference for the throw to the plate.

 

Krod blew it but this was all on the lack of clutch hitting by the Brewer hitters vs Baltimore's hitters getting it done.

8th inning: 1out double, infield single so runners on 1st/3rd 1out, walk bases loaded 1out...Strikeout/Groundout inning over.

9th inning:1out single, sacrifice+error allows runners on 2nd/3rd just 1out! Double play lineout!

10th inning: 1out single, walk runners on 1st/2nd 1out. Ground in to Double play!

 

It's comical that with runners on either 2nd or 3rd with 1out the team goes 0 for 4 making 6outs. Couldn't even lift a ball in to the outfield in B2b 3rd base and 1out situations for a simple sac fly?

Someone said this is the worst loss on the season, but I still can't get over that Atlanta loss and that 7th inning blow up.

The good news is ARam returns in under a week. As well as being a day closer to the day we call up Morris and/or make a trade for our bench.

[vegasbrewcrew1993]

elian herrera=moron

 

No he isn't.....he did what the manager told him to do.....

 

at least be mad at the right guy

 

an mlb shouldn't have to depend on the manager telling him what to do. an average mlb player should be smart enough to make the right call on the field of play. elian herrera is so terrible it's not even fun. he must be blackmailing melvin or RRR because that's the only way I can explain him being on the roster. he does nothing right. he's an even worse and more useless version of rickie weeks.

[Baldkin]

elian herrera=moron

 

No he isn't.....he did what the manager told him to do.....

 

at least be mad at the right guy

 

an mlb shouldn't have to depend on the manager telling him what to do. an average mlb player should be smart enough to make the right call on the field of play.

 

No. This is not true. Either it's the "Going on contact" play, or it's the "freeze and see what happens like you should be doing" play.

 

There is no, "If it's a line drive, freeze, if it's a ground ball at an infielder break late and hope you beat the throw" play.

[brewcrewdue80]

Reynolds on the season had put 36 balls on the ground. 38 times hit a Fly Ball. And 19times hit Line Drives. Why do you bother putting the Run at Contact play on for a player who's not a Groundball hitter?

 

Players like Jean Segura who has 93 GBs/20FlyBs/33Line Drives then it makes sense.

 

I don't want to spend the time going through every single player in the lineup, but Reynolds' Ground ball to all out % just may make him the WORST batter to have the run at contact play on for the entire team! It's not all on Roenicke as there has to be at least one other bench coach in that dugout who has stats and situational details about each batter to go to Roenicke and suggest Reynolds isn't the type of batter to use the run on contact. Now if these other coaches in the dugout don't help Roenicke this way throughout a game because Roenicke simply makes the decision on his own, then Roenicke needs to go yesterday. And that may just explain why he's constantly making these gaffes. He's the only one making the decisions and not getting or using the added insight from his bench coaches.

[TURBO]

In the end, our lack of ability to run the bases has to fall on the manager. This never gets better, it is the same nonsense year after year. I understand the aggressive nature that RRR wants to employ, but the constant base running mistakes that never seem to improve are just killing this team. If bad base running costs us 4 or 5 games a season (that number is low in my opinion, I think there can be a case made that says 10 games per season are lost due to little league style base running) and we finish 3 or 4 games out of the playoffs, eventually, this has to fall on the manager's shoulders.

 

Our manager is inept at so many things (bull pen management, base running, general situational baseball), at some point, the minuses start to outweigh the pluses... RRR has reached that point.

 

It is time to start to explore the Milwaukee Brewers without RRR at the helm. As soon as MA and DM realize this the better...

[TooLiveBrew]

In the end, our lack of ability to run the bases has to fall on the manager. This never gets better, it is the same nonsense year after year. I understand the aggressive nature that RRR wants to employ, but the constant base running mistakes that never seem to improve are just killing this team. If bad base running costs us 4 or 5 games a season (that number is low in my opinion, I think there can be a case made that says 10 games per season are lost due to little league style base running) and we finish 3 or 4 games out of the playoffs, eventually, this has to fall on the manager's shoulders.

 

Our manager is inept at so many things (bull pen management, base running, general situational baseball), at some point, the minuses start to outweigh the pluses... RRR has reached that point.

 

It is time to start to explore the Milwaukee Brewers without RRR at the helm. As soon as MA and DM realize this the better...

And there would certainly be games where good, aggressive baserunning will 'win' the games for us. So 'what would the net be?' is the real question.

[TURBO]

True... I am all for SMART aggressive base running, I believe we do a lot of DUMB aggressive base running, which is the problem I have with RRR's style.

[brewmann04]

The Runner should know that on a line drive stay put no excuse. RR teams has been the worst Base running teams in baseball. But the lack of Clutch Hitting is also inexcuseable.I am not sure the return of AR will help he struggled mightly until he hit the Home Run that Saturday nigh Game aganist the Yankees.

[TheCrew07]

K-Rod is just one of those guys who isn't ever as good as he appears when he's "hot", he's the same guy pretty much all the time. He depends on swings and misses at his very good off speed stuff out of the zone because he's not going to blow anything by anyone these days and he doesn't locate well at all, look at where the catcher sets up and where the ball actually goes...

 

He's been getting hit hard all year when batters make contact, they've just tended to be "loud outs". K-Rod doesn't look any different to me than he has the past 3 years, most days I wonder how he does so well being effectively wild.

 

Wooten leaving the ball up by hanging whatever off speed pitch he was trying to throw to 3 straight hitters stunk but the most disappointing thing to me was the contact play with 2nd and 3rd and 1 out. They must have studied the contact play as an organization because they use it across all levels but I think whatever math they used is flawed, because there is no way the T-Rats break even on it and it doesn't seem to work out well at the MLB level either.

 

Over the past 3 seasons I've grown to despise the contact play, to me it's as risky as having runners steal bases on first movement.... teach them how to read the play, don't over simplify the strategies to the point of absurdity to try and make it "easy" for the players.

[brewmann04]

The contact play is ok if the runner waits on a Line Drive .