When is it Time to Give Ron Roenicke His Due?

[Thurston Fluff]

I think we have the perfect example of how amplified each move gets in people's mind on this page alone. We have one person who still remembers Ron replacing Henderson helping the team win a few games and another person blaming him for costing the team wins. Kind of goes a long way towards explaining why I think it's such a small part of being a successful manager.

[SoupTown]

How much are wins 'worth' in free agency? I hope our managers are worth millions and not costing us millions. RR is much better this year. I really only consider I have seen one assinine decision. But I reiterate I hope RR learned from that. Mind you Kintzler was in yesterday again in a one run game. But that was down by one

 

My point is: be a man and admit mistakes and learn. And overall he is improving

[pacopete4]

Bump!

 

Most seem to have a distaste for him, I sure as heck don't. Keep on winning RR. Congrats on #300 today! Moves him into 5th place on our all time managers wins list behind: 1. Phil Garner (1992-1999: 563-617) 2. Ned Yost (2003-2008: 457-502) 3. Tom Trebelhorn (1986-1991: 422-397) 4. George Bamberger (1978-1980, 1985-1986: 377-351) 5. Ron Roenicke (2011-PRESENT: 300-263)

 

You'd think we'd appreciate him just a tad more than we do.

[gregmag]

I've been very hard on RR, but as I'm finally getting to watch a lot of games, I'm trying to judge him more fairly. He's growing on me. He seems to try to use his players to do what they can do, rather than playing up his own style, which is huge. I am afraid he's going to burn out Smith and Rodriguez, but obviously he's aware of the problem. I just haven't found much to second-guess lately. Also, there's nothing like some exposure to Kirk Gibson to make you appreciate RR on a personal level.

[adambr2]

Yeah, I hate the smallball tactics sometimes, but even that it seems like he is getting more reasonable and less predictable with. (I vaguely recall an AB the other day with Peralta when I thought for sure he would have him sac bunt and he decided to let him swing away).

 

As long as he doesn't pull a Kotsay in CF type move in the NLCS again, I would say he's grown a lot.

[Pugger]

I've been very hard on RR, but as I'm finally getting to watch a lot of games, I'm trying to judge him more fairly. He's growing on me. He seems to try to use his players to do what they can do, rather than playing up his own style, which is huge. I am afraid he's going to burn out Smith and Rodriguez, but obviously he's aware of the problem. I just haven't found much to second-guess lately. Also, there's nothing like some exposure to Kirk Gibson to make you appreciate RR on a personal level.

 

Really! I suppose every manager or head coach in any sport can drive fans crazy at times. RR doesn't get a lot of love but neither does McCarthy in GB.

[EdgarDiazRocks]

I'd like to give RR props for NOT retaliating against the Diamondbacks. Could you imagine the suspensions we'd be suffering if Yost(!) was in charge during that?

 

I'm still bitter about the McClung beaning Pujols incident of 2007.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL200709260.shtml

[adambr2]

I'd like to give RR props for NOT retaliating against the Diamondbacks. Could you imagine the suspensions we'd be suffering if Yost(!) was in charge during that?

 

I'm still bitter about the McClung beaning Pujols incident of 2007.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL200709260.shtml

 

The Pujols beaning incident aside, Yost gets remembered in a lot worse light here than he probably should be.

 

I realize there were some baffling bullpen decisions -- he was here for what, 6 years? That's a 1,000 game stretch. I'd be willing to bet that anyone who manages 9,000+ innings is bound to make a few decisions that look like head scratchers to most folks.

[logan82]

I think a lot of people didn't like Yost's personality. He was more hit tempered than DPR.

[adambr2]

I think a lot of people didn't like Yost's personality. He was more hit tempered than DPR.

 

It made for really entertaining post game pressers, though.

[Baldkin]

I'd like to give RR props for NOT retaliating against the Diamondbacks. Could you imagine the suspensions we'd be suffering if Yost(!) was in charge during that?

 

I'm still bitter about the McClung beaning Pujols incident of 2007.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL200709260.shtml

 

The Pujols beaning incident aside, Yost gets remembered in a lot worse light here than he probably should be.

 

I realize there were some baffling bullpen decisions -- he was here for what, 6 years? That's a 1,000 game stretch. I'd be willing to bet that anyone who manages 9,000+ innings is bound to make a few decisions that look like head scratchers to most folks.

 

http://www.hardballtimes.com/yost-infection/

 

Lets just say, it was more than a few.