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2014-04-05 Brewers (Peralta) at Red Sox (Buchholz), 6:10 PM CDT [Brewers win in 11, 7-6]


agreed, but sadly, 9 times out of 10, the umps are going to call him out when the ball beats the runner.

 

To be honest, it was stupid to try and score on that play. How many outs have we given up already this year on the bases?

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Why were 4 of the runs earned? The 3-run homer shouldn't have happened

The 3 runs in the 3rd are unearned but they ruled the "error" on Segura in the 2nd a base hit.

 

The box score says 4 of 5 runs we're earned. To me all the 3rd inning runs should be unearned

Box score I'm looking at says only 2 ER.

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Not challenging a close call like that is reason enough to fire Roenicke immediately.

 

Hyperbole much?

 

 

And he was easily safe. Don't know why it wasn't challenged.

Also, the challenge system is stupid.

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agreed, but sadly, 9 times out of 10, the umps are going to call him out when the ball beats the runner.

 

To be honest, it was stupid to try and score on that play. How many outs have we given up already this year on the bases?

 

It was a really dumb send.

 

You're right about that call normally going to the catcher, and normally I wouldn't complain too much, but it also seems like the perfect time to really test the waters with replay. Put some pressure on the umps to start calling those plays based on the tag instead of a 'ball vs runner' call.

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edit. how the heck did my LR end up in the game thread? *sigh*

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agreed, but sadly, 9 times out of 10, the umps are going to call him out when the ball beats the runner.

 

 

But there is instant replay now, it shouldn't matter if the ball got there before the runner.

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Also, the challenge system is stupid.

 

Only if you don't use it.

 

Not exactly.

 

Rather than explaining my thoughts in my own words, I'll quote from Deadspin, which echos my opinion:

 

Because the Giants had used, and lost, their challenge, they were unable to ask the umpires to review this one. This was an inevitability because of the replay review system's two provisos: that a manger gets one failed challenge, and that umpires can not initiate a review on their own until the seventh inning.

 

These are artificial limitations, and are bound to create windows for blown calls just like the one we saw last night. It needn't be this way. The challenge system exists as a sop to those worried about slowing the game down, but Bruce Bochy's argument on the play at the plate took just as much time as a review would have. If review exists to get the call right as often as possible—and the Diamondbacks would go on to win this game by a single run—do away with challenges altogether and let the umpires decide when to go to replay.

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I guess if we're going commit fielding blunders, just get them all out of the way in one game. I'm also using the theory that the team is allotted a set number of fielding mistakes before the season starts.
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Not challenging a close call like that is reason enough to fire Roenicke immediately.

 

Hyperbole much?

 

 

And he was easily safe. Don't know why it wasn't challenged.

Also, the challenge system is stupid.

 

 

Add this latest blunder to the long list of blunders that fool has made. Roenicke should've been gone a long time ago. There's no justification for not challenging. Imagine if the umpires had overturned the call. Brewers would've had 7 runs. That extra run would have them in the lead instead of tied.

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I agree that the call should've been challenged, but your statement that the lack of a challenge was "reason enough to fire Roenicke immediately" is just silly.

 

Not really. His list of blunders is long enough to stretch from Wisconsin to Michigan. He's without a doubt one of the worst managers this team has ever had. Consistently poor lineup and bullpen decisions, bad at defensive adjustments, bad at substitutions, and low baseball IQ.

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