2014 Nashville Line Up/Roster

[Mr Southpaw]

After looking at the major league roster possibilities, I saw quite a few players going to AAA. I put together a possible line up/roster for Nashville. It looks like Nashvillve could win some games this year! Feel free to adjust and post your ideas.

 

LINEUP

 

SS Herrera

LF Gindl

3B Green

1B Morris

RF Kentral Davis

CF Prince

2B Parker, N Shaw

C Zarraga

DH Halton

 

SP - Nelson, Hellweg, Burgos, Jungmann, Pena, and Fiers

RP - Shackelford, Blazek Figaro, Heckelthorn, Olmsted, De La Torre, Hand, Seidel, Manzanillo

[JohnBriggs12]

I disagree with quite a few of your projections.

 

Gindl will make the Brewer roster. He's going to see a lot of time in LF to take pressure off Khris Davis.

 

At Nashville, Rogers will be in LF. Halton will be in RF. Davis will be platooned in CF with Prince and also play the corners. Irving Falu is the most likely guy at 2B. The starting catcher at Nashville is almost certain to be Robinzon Diaz. Matt Pagnozzi is likely backup. Eugenio Velez will be DH/utility guy.

 

The pitching staff is close though the bullpen is not. Either Blazek or Figaro is going to make the Brewer roster. Wooten is not. He will be in Nashville as will Goforth.

[Mr Southpaw]

I would love for Gindl to be in Milwaukee, but I think the platoon at 2b and/or 1b leave us with four outfielders.

[JohnBriggs12]

I would love for Gindl to be in Milwaukee, but I think the platoon at 2b and/or 1b leave us with four outfielders.

 

They won't go into the season with 4 outfielders and 7 infielders. That's completely unworkable. You PH Schafer and then you have no backup OF. None. If one of the backup infielders could also play OF, then yes. Bianchi could play out there in a pinch, but then who's your backup at SS? I'm on record as saying Weeks isn't on the team opening day. I'll stick with it but on the off chance he is, it will be at Gennett's expense not Gindl's. Part of the reason I've been insistent that there isn't a place for Weeks on the bench is precisely his lack of versatility, the need for all the lefty bats they can fit, and the need to carry 5 outfielders with one (Davis) being untested over time.

 

Posters on here are all over the need for Gennett to have a safety net/platoon partner. Davis needs one just as much. In fact I think you'll see a soft platoon in LF because this team badly needs more balance in the lineup and Gindl provides that. Schafer does too, but he's the lone backup CF.

[SoupTown]

Gindl will not be on the MLB roster unless Gennett is in AAA or some injury happens

 

Am I right that Herrera (is that spellt right) plays outfield too. He could be a threat to Bianchi

 

And Rogers, Morris, Halton will give us a trifecta of first baseman playing full time to see if we have a guy for Milwaukee in 2015

 

Thanks for this thread. I have been waiting weeks for it

[TheCrew07]

If Jason Rogers sees significant playing time in LF I will be pissed, he's not athletic enough to be anything more than a spot starter. Why put him in a position to be a defensive liability simply because we can't manage the 40 man roster effectively?

 

I wouldn't mind Rogers repeating AA at 1B because of the logjam in front of him. Let Ramirez and Rogers DH/1B in Huntsville. Cody Hawn is going to be 25 years old and hasn't put up an OPS over .700 in 2 seasons, let Cooper play 1B in BC and have Hawn stick around as depth for a 3rd season in BC or release him.

 

There is no reason to have 3 1B only types on any minor league roster, and yes I'm aware that Halton and Rogers have experience at other positions, but it doesn't mean they could play competently in MLB at those positions.

[DHonks]

Gindl will be in Milwaukee. His power, obp, defense, and left-handedness help.

 

You forgot Thornburg in the rotation. Don't forget Brock K in OF/1b/DH. I could see Scooter in AAA to allow the Brewers to see what they have in Weeks.

[CheeseheadInQC]

If Jason Rogers sees significant playing time in LF I will be pissed, he's not athletic enough to be anything more than a spot starter. Why put him in a position to be a defensive liability simply because we can't manage the 40 man roster effectively?

 

I wouldn't mind Rogers repeating AA at 1B because of the logjam in front of him. Let Ramirez and Rogers DH/1B in Huntsville. Cody Hawn is going to be 25 years old and hasn't put up an OPS over .700 in 2 seasons, let Cooper play 1B in BC and have Hawn stick around as depth for a 3rd season in BC or release him.

 

There is no reason to have 3 1B only types on any minor league roster, and yes I'm aware that Halton and Rogers have experience at other positions, but it doesn't mean they could play competently in MLB at those positions.

 

Is this really that big of a deal? To me this would only be a significant issue if one of two things were true: 1) Rogers is shaky at first and needs to be playing there to iron out defensive issues or 2) he is taking playing time from an actual outfield prospect.

 

I'll admit I haven't seen Rogers enough (just a couple of games when he was with the Rattlers) to be able to gauge his defense at first nor have I read much about his play there. If that is an issue, fine. The second really isn't, though. If Gindl makes the opening day roster, the other outfield options at Nashville will be Kentrail Davis, three utility guys who could also see time in the infield and three minor league free agents. If Haniger and Richardson force their way up to AAA during the season, then it might become an issue. Otherwise, no.

 

I doubt the Brewers would have added Rogers to the 40-man roster if they didn't think there was a decent chance he'd end up a better option than Morris and Halton. If that's what they believe, I think they should let them fight it out in Nashville. It wouldn't shock me at all if Rogers ended up being the best of the bunch.

[CheeseheadInQC]

It's going to be interesting to see how the pitching staff shakes out. I really have a feeling Thornburg starts the year in the AAA rotation, which would likely make it Thornburg, Nelson, Hellweg, Burgos and Fiers in the rotation, Jungmann in AA and Pena moving to the pen. In the bullpen, you'll have the losers of the fight for the last two Brewer bullpen spots (I'm guessing Blazek and Figaro beat out Wooten and de la Torre), Pena, Goforth, Shackleford, Hand and Heckathorn. That leaves Seidel, Mills, Molleken, Leach, Lowe, Marzec, Olmsted, Holle and Medlen fighting for one spot, with a few of them inevitably ending up in the AA pen. Injuries could change this, and there's always a chance they move Goforth into the AA rotation, but the depth is interesting.

[nate82]

It's going to be interesting to see how the pitching staff shakes out. I really have a feeling Thornburg starts the year in the AAA rotation, which would likely make it Thornburg, Nelson, Hellweg, Burgos and Fiers in the rotation, Jungmann in AA and Pena moving to the pen. In the bullpen, you'll have the losers of the fight for the last two Brewer bullpen spots (I'm guessing Blazek and Figaro beat out Wooten and de la Torre), Pena, Goforth, Shackleford, Hand and Heckathorn. That leaves Seidel, Mills, Molleken, Leach, Lowe, Marzec, Olmsted, Holle and Medlen fighting for one spot, with a few of them inevitably ending up in the AA pen. Injuries could change this, and there's always a chance they move Goforth into the AA rotation, but the depth is interesting.

 

I would rather see Hellweg in the pen before Pena. Hellweg has absolutely no control as a starter while Pena has some. Plus I believe Pena is going to become the starter and not Hellweg as a lot of people pegged it to be Hellweg as a starter and Pena as a reliever.

[DHonks]

If Hellweg is successful as a starter in the majors, it'll be by taking the Wainwright/Lowe route of going to the pen for a few years to refine mechanics and have success before converting to the rotation.

[Mr Southpaw]

Then Hellweg should be the closer at Nashville? I could live with that. We seem to have quite a few good arms getting prepared for Milwaukee.

[JohnBriggs12]

I think they'll find a way to get Rogers AB's and the most likely place with Morris around is LF. I'm sure he'll also see time at 1B.

 

I've heard all the arguments, but in my mind, no Gindl on the major league roster puts a bit too much pressure on Davis. I'd have Gindl make a couple starts a week in Milwaukee in LF. Yeah Herrera could make the roster over Bianchi and give them that extra OF which would allow Schafer to do the same job. But I think they like Bianchi's defense enough to keep him since he's out of options.

[Mr Southpaw]

If they keep five outfielders, they most likely only keep six infielder....

 

Must keep

1.Segura SS

2.ARam 3B

 

Likely Keep

3. Weeks 2B

4. Reynolds 1B

 

That leaves 2 bench positions

 

5. Bianchi/Herrara need a backup SS

6. One other player

a. Scooter to platoon 2B. Backup for first would be Bianchi/Herrara. Maybe Maldanado in a pinch.

b. Winner of JFran/Overbay. JFran/Reynolds back up 3B.

c. Taylor Green. Can platoon Weeks, Play 3B and 1B. Longshot.

 

The best option of the number six in my mind would be Green. He covers the infield and every position except SS and he can do that in a pinch. The second best is b. The winner of JFran and Overbay. First bas is platooned and looks respectable and a SS does not play first base in a pinch. The option the Brewers look like they will pick is a. Scooter. If they pick this option, they will need another infielder leaving Gindl the odd man out. One of the infielders (Bianchi, Herrara) will have to be the fifth outfielder.

[igor67]

I haven't looked at the schedule, but are there enough off days to go a pitcher short to begin with in April? Green might work at SS in a pinch, but a plan that gives Segura no option for an offday doesn't seem like much of a plan. On injury alone I like going in with a bigger bench for a couple of weeks to see if something happens on our end that requires a reshuffling of the deck, or hopefully second base sorts itself out clearly.

[Mass Haas]

Adam McCalvy tidbit from big league camp:

 

Ron Roenicke said non-roster catcher Robinzon Diaz was game-ready. He has been brought along slowly after breaking a hand in the Dominican Winter League.

[Mr Southpaw]

There are almost no days off in April.. They are going to need there pitchers early in the season.

[brewmann04]

I will be disappointed if Jungmann is back in 2A.I can understand Bradley why he will be in Huntsville but nit Jungmann.

[djoctagone]

SP - Nelson, Hellweg, Burgos, Jungmann, Pena, and Fiers

RP - Shackelford, Blazek, Figaro, Heckelthorn, Olmsted, De La Torre, Hand, Seidel, Manzanillo

that's 15 pitchers. and it doesn't include dustin molleken, nor does it include zach duke (likely has an opt-out clause if he doesn't make the major league club, but that hasn't been confirmed).

[Mr Southpaw]

Mr Southpaw said:

SP - Nelson, Hellweg, Burgos, Jungmann, Pena, and Fiers

RP - Shackelford, Blazek, Figaro, Heckelthorn, Olmsted, De La Torre, Hand, Seidel, Manzanillo

 

that's 15 pitchers. and it doesn't include dustin molleken, nor does it include zach duke (likely has an opt-out clause if he doesn't make the major league club, but that hasn't been confirmed).

 

I am just saying there are more than enough quality arms. No one can decide who will make the big league team at this point, much less the AAA team.

[DHonks]

Green needs to prove himself in AAA. He also needs to solidify himself at 3b. We should not keep two 2b unless one can play elsewhere.

[Mr Southpaw]

Post subject: Re: 2014 Nashville Line Up/Roster

Posted: March 08, 2014, 6:35 PM Post

Green needs to prove himself in AAA. He also needs to solidify himself at 3b. We should not keep two 2b unless one can play elsewhere.

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If you are referring to my comment on Taylor Green, I dd say long shot.

[djoctagone]

olmsted released. still a lot of pitchers who probably won't make the brewers 25-man roster vying for a spot on nashville's pitching staff. of course, injuries can change things pretty quickly.

[Mr Southpaw]

From what I am seeing on the MLB stat page, Gindl has no AB with the big club. Is he hurt or have they already made up ther minds on him?

[Roderick]

From what I am seeing on the MLB stat page, Gindl has no AB with the big club. Is he hurt or have they already made up ther minds on him?

 

Gindl has 36 at bats this spring with a .194 ave., 600ops.

 

http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp?c_id=mil#game_type=%27S%27&playerType=ALL&elem=[object+Object]&tab_level=child&click_text=Sortable+Player+hitting&season=2014&season_type=ANY&league_code=%27MLB%27&sectionType=sp&statType=hitting