2014 - Pre-Season (and subsequently updated postseason) Brewer Organizational Player Rankings -- Latest: John Sickels

[Mass Haas]

Starting a new thread which will be a compilation of current Brewer rankings from around the interwebs:

 

Bullpen Banter: Milwaukee Brewers Top 10 Prospects for 2014

 

Nelson - Haniger - D. Williams - Taylor - Delmonico - Roache - Coulter - Jungmann - Hellweg - Neuhaus

[Mass Haas]

Fangraphs - 2014 Top 10 Prospects: Milwaukee Brewers

 

Taylor - Nelson - Roache - Hellweg - Haniger - Jungmann - Goforth - Coulter - D. Williams - Arcia

[Mass Haas]

Goodness, I thought I'd swear off Bleacher Report forever just because of the stupid slideshows. I still do for the most part, but now that they're under the CNN banner and don't accept nearly as many random user entries, here you go.

 

Taylor - Nelson - Haniger - Hellweg - D. Williams - Arcia - Jungmann - Roache - Goforth - Delmonico

[SoupTown]

Thanks for the links Mass. Mind you, it is a depressing read.

 

I am tempted to try to find if there are ANY high, high upside guys in the system. Aside from D Williams, we have NIL, it seems. And I worried where in the Williams discussion it says he has some inconsistencies in the delivery, but he is athletic, so good coaching will fix that. I always worry about the development staff of the Brewers - because their results have been so, so awful.

[Mass Haas]

John Sickels is seeking input within his Brewers organizational discussion -- chime in there!

[Eye Black]

Baseball Prospectus released their Brewers Top Ten List:

 

1. CF Tyrone Taylor

2. RHP Jimmy Nelson

3. CF Mitch Haniger

4. SS Orlando Arcia

5. RHP Johnny Hellweg

6. OF Victor Roache

7. RHP Devin Williams

8. RHP Taylor Jungmann

9. RHP David Goforth

10. SS Yadiel Rivera

[brewmann04]

well at least there's some pitchers -- maybe not a true #1, but some solid 2-3s

[Mass Haas]

Grading on the Curve's Top 15 (Fansided)

 

Good effort...

[Mass Haas]

John Sickels -- Milwaukee Brewers farm system preliminary grade breakdown

 

Short and sweet, and the actual names to be listed later this week; the comments are off to a decent discussion start, at least as of this posting time here.

[sveumrules]

Will be curious to see who Sickels has as the B grade, Nelson or Taylor. Nelson is obviously closer to the majors with a higher likelihood of hitting his lower ceiling as compared to Taylor who clearly has the higher upside but is farther away from the majors with a higher variance in potential outcomes.

 

Also just want to note that Sickels is probably my favorite "prospect expert" to follow. Lots of great stuff on his site all year long.

[Mass Haas]

Will be curious to see who Sickels has as the B grade, Nelson or Taylor.

 

In that short posting, John writes:

 

"Yes, Jimmy Nelson is the Grade B"

[TooLiveBrew]

Will be curious to see who Sickels has as the B grade, Nelson or Taylor. Nelson is obviously closer to the majors with a higher likelihood of hitting his lower ceiling as compared to Taylor who clearly has the higher upside but is farther away from the majors with a higher variance in potential outcomes.

 

Also just want to note that Sickels is probably my favorite "prospect expert" to follow. Lots of great stuff on his site all year long.

I agree -- he's consistently very informed & good.

[sveumrules]

Thanks, Mass. I scrolled down to the comments so fast to see what kind of trash BackToCali was going to talk that I completely missed that sentence. Will be interested to read the player comments once the full list is posted.

[Mass Haas]

John Sickels again proving he's among the best at this --

 

Milwaukee Brewers Top 20 Prospects for 2014

[molitor fan]

Wow, actual depth to analysis and insight instead of mindless blurbs.....Sickels is no more optimistic that KLAW unfortunately and states bluntly that something needs to change, which I agree with.

[reillymcshane]

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/1/30/5363560/milwaukee-brewers-top-20-prospects-for-2014

 

Nothing shocking here. Nelson, Roache, Taylor at the top of the list.

 

He reiterates what everyone says about the system: Any impact talent is at the low levels. How things go depends on guys like Arcia, Taylor, Roache, Williams and Coulter. Those are the guys with upside who could elevate the system in the next couple of years.

 

Hurts to see Jungmann and Bradley flounder. I had high hopes for Jungmann last year.

 

We are in competition for the worst minor league system. Perhaps not the worst - but certainly in the mix.

[ClosetBrewerFan]

Jason Rogers is higher than Morris. Can't argue his logic (pick the better performer) since they are basically the same age and have similar skills. Still surprising to see.

[dacbrewers]

These so called experts mostly rank prospects according to draft status and hear-say which is a joke. Based on actual numbers and what I have seen...Jason Rogers should be ranked higher and D'vontrey Richardson should be on there. Delmonico should definitely be off...horrible D and not much at the plate. I would like to see Delmonico prove me wrong this year.

[TooLiveBrew]

These so called experts mostly rank prospects according to draft status and hear-say which is a joke. Based on actual numbers and what I have seen...Jason Rogers should be ranked higher and D'vontrey Richardson should be on there. Delmonico should definitely be off...horrible D and not much at the plate. I would like to see Delmonico prove me wrong this year.

While I agree with the notion that 'prospecting' is an inexact science, the good 'prospectors' also largely base their insights on physical tools & scouting. If you went by just stats, there's no way anyone would've seen the season Carlos Gomez had in 2013 as possible... but he's a guy who has always had the physical tools to produce the way he wound up doing. Scouting is very important.

[Mass Haas]

Headed up by our Link Report staff member Brad, a variety of Brewers bloggers helped create this top 25 list at Miller Park Prospects.

 

Give MPP a follow on Twitter, Brad indicates nice things for their recently revamped site in 2014.

[Mass Haas]

Headed up by our Link Report staff member Brad, a variety of Brewers bloggers helped create this top 25 list at Miller Park Prospects.

 

Give MPP a follow on Twitter, Brad indicates nice things for their recently revamped site in 2014.

 

The guys have posted a roundtable discussion on their selections.

[Mass Haas]

Miller Park Prospects -- Mailbag

[And That]

BA's top 31 as per their book I just received, apologies if this has already been posted:

 

1. Jimmy Nelson

2. Tyrone Taylor

3. Mitch Haniger

4. Johnny Hellweg

5. Victor Roache

6. Taylor Jungmann

7. Orlando Arcia

8. David Goforth

9. Devin Williams

10. Hunter Morris

11. Clint Coulter

12. Nick Delmonico

13. Yadiel Rivera

14. Tucker Neuhaus

15. Ariel Pena

16. Tyler Wagner

17. Michael Blazek

18. Jed Bradley

19. Taylor Williams

20. Jason Rogers

21. Kevin Shackelford

22. Barret Astin

23. Damien Magnifico

24. Jorge Lopez

25. Drew Gagnon

26. Omar Garcia

27. Anthony Banda

28. Michael Ratterree

29. Tyler Cravy

30. D'Vontrey Richardson

31. Brooks Hall

[reillymcshane]

Fangraphs top 100 prospects:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2014-top-100-prospects/

 

Nelson checks in at #91

[TheCrew07]

Considering that Nelson is the only Brewer to show up on any top 100 list so far, this quote from the forward of the fangraphs list is extremely discouraging:

 

This year’s Top 100 Prospects list comes with a warning: This might be the thinest compilation of the top 100 players, in terms of future ceilings, since I’ve been writing about prospects (approximately 10 years).