Ryan Braun to Mets? (SNY.tv blogger's idea) -- Latest: Braun is an absolute bargain

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http://metsblog.com/metsblog/brewers-more-likely-to-trade-ryan-braun-than-norichika-aoki/

 

If this were to happen for this reason and this return, we may as well just give up being fans of this baseball team until new ownership and management come to Milwaukee.

[fondybrewfan]

Not a chance in bloody hell that this deal would ever happen. Even suggesting such a trade seems irresponsible. Not in a million years would be we trade Ryan Braun and cash for Ike freaking Davis. Take off the NY glasses dude.

[pogokat]

I would say that this is crap, but terrible things happen to the teams I root for all the time.

 

I mean, the only thing worse than Braun being suspended for 65 games would be the Brewers dumping him AND all their money for Ike Davis.

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Furthermore, if the Mets want to get real about a Braun deal, even with the baggage of his suspension, then some combination Syndergaard, Wheeler, D'Arnaud plus I. Davis is the starting point. If not, I am hanging up the phone.

[TooLiveBrew]

Braun is guaranteed $113 million over the next seven seasons, and buzz from Milwaukee suggests they’ll pay a good chunk of it to force a change of scenery.

This is pure speculation from this blogger, & based on absolutely nothing. "Buzz from Milwaukee suggests..." is about the most vague 'claim' one can make.

[logan82]

I would trade Braun and some money, but only for good young players. Several young players. More than we got in return for Greinke.

[trwi7]

If you read comments on MLBTR Mets fans absolutely hate this Cerrone guy. Just pulls crap out of his ass like this all the time.

[JohnBriggs12]

If you read comments on MLBTR Mets fans absolutely hate this Cerrone guy. Just pulls crap out of his ass like this all the time.

 

Some fans are taking it seriously even suggesting the Brewers pay part of Braun's salary. What planet are they on? I do question why Melvin would even be talking with the Mets. They are as hard up for a 1B as the Brewers.

 

Now if Detroit wanted to pay half of Fielder's salary, that might be a fair swap for Braun, but Ike Davis?

[sheetskout]

Oh man. Other sources seem to be picking this up. Ludicrous in my mind less we got Zack Wheeler in return.

 

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/11/ryan-braun-milwaukee-brewers-mets-ike-davis-trade/

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Even with the lingering PED fallout, I still hold firm to my belief that for the Brewers to trade Ryan Braun, who I believe is still the player he always has been, the conversation needs to start with Wheeler, Syndergaard AND I. Davis. Period. Sorry if I am overreaching, but a player of Braun's ability, personality flaws included, are once in a generation for any franchise.

 

There is no way I entertain any type of Ryan Braun trade that does not include multiple elite pitching prospects, especially given his relatively team-friendly contract. If I don't receive that offer, fine. I will play 2014, 2015, 2016, etc...with a .300/30/100 Braun in the #3 hole.

[paul253]

Can someone explain to me why we would even want Ike Davis? He has power and.....that's all. He hit .205 with a .326 OBP last year and struck out once every three at bats. If all you are looking for is power then they might as well let Hunter Morris play first base. He hit 24 HRs in Nashville last year. To suggest that the Brewers would not only give them Ryan Braun for but to also add money is absurd. It'd be like us suggesting we trade Rickie Weeks for Miguel Cabrera.

[Lee16]

After thinking about it, I wouldn't be terribly upset if we did trade Braun. I also think we may be severely overestimating what we could get for him simply because I believe (and I very well could be wrong) that he is basically 1 PED "strike" away from being banned for life now isn't he? Sure he can look Melvin in the eyes and swear up and down it will never happen again, but after his vehement denials that turned out to be untrue, would you or any other GM believe him?

[brewmann04]

This guy must be realted to the NFL network Ian Rappaport.

The one on one deal is stupis and mornic.

this is going to be a long offseason.

[brewcrewdue80]

Even with the lingering PED fallout, I still hold firm to my belief that for the Brewers to trade Ryan Braun, who I believe is still the player he always has been, the conversation needs to start with Wheeler, Syndergaard AND I. Davis. Period. Sorry if I am overreaching, but a player of Braun's ability, personality flaws included, are once in a generation for any franchise.

 

There is no way I entertain any type of Ryan Braun trade that does not include multiple elite pitching prospects, especially given his relatively team-friendly contract. If I don't receive that offer, fine. I will play 2014, 2015, 2016, etc...with a .300/30/100 Braun in the #3 hole.

 

My sentiments exactly. Though I'd probably look for Syndergaard, Wilmer Flores for 3b duties, and then Davis....Though I'd rather just pass on Davis as 33%+ K guys just don't sit well with me to improve much.

 

Let's get really crazy here. Braun and Aram for David Wright and Noah Syndergaard?

 

Edit Add: I'd probably also ask for Davis in that crazy trade or honestly Jeurys Familia as a guy who could potentially be an 8th/9th inning guy for multiple successful seasons.

[owbc]

I would want prospects and the idea of trading Braun for prospects means finally going ahead with that rebuild that many at BF.net have been talking about for the past few years.

 

Braun has already been essentially erased from the Brewers, so now would be a good time to let him go.

 

That being said, this isn't going to happen.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Oh man. Other sources seem to be picking this up. Ludicrous in my mind less we got Zack Wheeler in return.

 

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/11/ryan-braun-milwaukee-brewers-mets-ike-davis-trade/

 

All they're doing is quoting that same blogger. That doesn't really make it multiple sources.

[Invader3K]

Mark Attanasio has already gone on record as saying Braun won't be traded, so I'm not sure why it's even remotely being talked about. Just lazy speculation building on that writer's part.

[BrewCrewForever]

Even with the lingering PED fallout, I still hold firm to my belief that for the Brewers to trade Ryan Braun, who I believe is still the player he always has been, the conversation needs to start with Wheeler, Syndergaard AND I. Davis. Period. Sorry if I am overreaching, but a player of Braun's ability, personality flaws included, are once in a generation for any franchise.

 

There is no way I entertain any type of Ryan Braun trade that does not include multiple elite pitching prospects, especially given his relatively team-friendly contract. If I don't receive that offer, fine. I will play 2014, 2015, 2016, etc...with a .300/30/100 Braun in the #3 hole.

 

Agreed, if a package for Braun didn't START with those three players I would be very upset. I do not want Braun traded, but if they did for anything less than those three players plus, I would probably ask for a re-fund on my 20 pack as I would have lost all faith in this organization.

[fondybrewfan]

I still believe Braun will be the same player he has always been. You don't trade away that type of player with a fairly manageable long term contract for anything less than a player or players that would significantly increase the odds of long term success. You don't trade players like that for stop gap first baseman.

 

If Braun were ever to be traded it probably would be this offseason though. If he comes back and hits like crazy in 2014 DM certainly would have no interest at all. If he sucks in 2014 they won't be able to trade him.

 

I really don't think Melvin could ever get fair value back for him so there are probably 50:1 odds that he gets traded. I don't think any team would give up enough to take on Braun and all his issues.

 

If Braun does get that 3rd strike its not like the Brewers have to keep paying the guy. It will be just like letting Fielder walk in FA with basically no compensation. You just move on.

[JohnBriggs12]

I was in the trade Braun camp after the truth came out but honestly if Ike Davis is all you'd get for him then no. Davis is supposed to provide power, but Yuni outslugged him in 2013.

 

I believe Braun will perform up to his past. The venom he'll get directed at him will gradually fade too. It's happened with Michael Vick.

[TURBO]

If Davis is all we can get, it would be a stupid move to trade him.

 

Brewers fans will warm up to him again if he stays clean and performs... A lot of people think that keeping him is a bad PR move, but the market will not give us anything even close to what we know his value is.

 

Time heals all wounds, so does performance.

 

Unless there is stellar pitching involved in a deal for Braun, he needs to stay.

[BradWI]

Melvin says nothing to rumors:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/232832861.html

[torts]

After thinking about it, I wouldn't be terribly upset if we did trade Braun. I also think we may be severely overestimating what we could get for him simply because I believe (and I very well could be wrong) that he is basically 1 PED "strike" away from being banned for life now isn't he? Sure he can look Melvin in the eyes and swear up and down it will never happen again, but after his vehement denials that turned out to be untrue, would you or any other GM believe him?

 

not even close. he's not even 2 strikes away. his suspension was outside of the PED penalty structure, so if he tests and fails again, and he lost in arbitration, he'd be a 1st time offender in terms of penalty, not a 2nd, because he wasnt suspended for failing the test in 2011. the MLBPA will not allow MLB to overstep the penalty structure defined in the CBA/JDA.

[trwi7]

He posts another blog today on the reaction to the first blog and the fans are just tearing him apart in the comments.

 

http://metsblog.com/metsblog/yesterdays-ryan-braun-rumors-and-internet-reaction/

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Man that follow-up article makes Cerrone come across as pompous. Essentially, fans interpreted the article the exact way it was written and it is our fault for trusting his journalistic integrity. What jerks we are!