2008 Vent Thread (part 6)

[bklynbrewcrew]

Not that it should have come to this but Dale Yost is as clueless as Ned. How many times are we going to have our two worst hitters (Counsell and Kendall) batting in big spots late in games. When you are in the twelth inning and have second and third with no out and the infield in you cannot let Counsell and Kendall hit. These two clowns cant ever hit the ball out of the infield and as usual they both were left in the game to surprise surprise hit weak ground balls that couldnt score the runner. Enough is enough! It is time to fire Melvin and let Jack Z have a shot.

[FidoMcCokefiend]

and the team chokes away a 5.5 game lead in September.

And to do it in the most horrifying, unimaginable, unlikely, and painful ways possible. Just getting beat is one thing, but to have every player go cold for 2 weeks is unfathomable. To lose a 4 run lead with no one on and 2 out in the bottom of the ninth is unreal. The Gagne blow up vs NY. The Torres BS against Cincy in the 9th. Giving up the GW hit to a guy with a broken finger who's season ends right after that, looking like total crap against Philly.

 

This team is a continuous gut punch to their fans.

[naivin]

I guess Sveum's aggressive approach on the bases isn't exactly paying dividends so far. Ridiculous.

[trwi7]

Also, Braun deserves some major criticism for not going hard after Ramirez' "double" in the 9th and Iorg deserves a ton of criticism as well by sending Hardy home with nobody out in the 9th. We would've had second and third with nobody out. Maybe Counsell and Kendall would've actually come through there. Not likely, but maybe the pinch hitter would have.

[Postseason2006]

I am still dumbfounded on why Counsell and Kendall still get at bats in critical spots? They left a village on and people question the manager and GM... It's ones fault for having to crummy hitters and the other not smart enough to get them out late in games. Unreal.

[pebadger]

There is still a 2008 Silver Lining Thread.

[DonMoney4Mgr]

Is kendall going to play every second of every game? Take away his hot start in April, and he's a 220 hitter. Yet he continues to bat in critical situations late in games. Game after game after game. This team deserves to lose. Sveum ol Same ol.

[BadgerFan]

I had a long vent typed up and deleted it. I just don't know what to say anymore. I'm so sick of this franchise it's unreal.

 

I say it every year, if I could snap my fingers and no longer be a Brewers fan I'd do it in HEARTBEAT. I hate being a fan.

[And That]

Today's loss was the Brewers' existence in a microcosm. Look promising, suck for a long period of time, be good but not good enough, suck again, utterly fail in the face of a positive outcome, continue to suck until we're put out of our misery. Repeat.

[JohnBriggs12]

Also, Braun deserves some major criticism for not going hard after Ramirez' "double" in the 9th and Iorg deserves a ton of criticism as well by sending Hardy home with nobody out in the 9th. We would've had second and third with nobody out. Maybe Counsell and Kendall would've actually come through there. Not likely, but maybe the pinch hitter would have.

Iorg was brought in under the Brewer hiring philosophy of if you are a pal of the boss, you are hired.

[sbrylski]

I was trying to think of what to type here, when I realized the sound coming out of my mouth while rubbing my eyes and thinking sums it up pretty good:

 

ggrrreeeerrrrmmmeeeeoooannnn, ect., et al., so on and so forth.

[yoshii8]

I've never been so frustrated over one loss, I don't even know what to say anymore. What a horrible, horrible game.

[danzig6767]

I am still dumbfounded on why Counsell and Kendall still get at bats in critical spots? They left a village on and people question the manager and GM... It's ones fault for having to crummy hitters and the other not smart enough to get them out late in games. Unreal.

My buddy stopped by during extra innings and when we got guys on 2nd/3rd with nobody out and Counsell/Kendall due up, i said i'd bet him 10 bucks that we don't score, he passed. So i said i'd bet him 20 bucks against 10 from him that we wouldn't score, he passed again.

 

I can see batting Counsell in that spot, but Kendall hits so many weak grounders and shallow flies, he litterally was the last guy on the team i wanted at the plate. Why both Ned/Dale refuse to EVER pinch hit for Kendall in critical sports is simply dumbfounding to me.

[naivin]

I can see batting Counsell in that spot, but Kendall hits so many weak grounders and shallow flies, he litterally was the last guy on the team i wanted at the plate. Why both Ned/Dale refuse to EVER pinch hit for Kendall in critical sports is simply dumbfounding to me.

 

Counsell is at least left handed, so I will conceed that one, but as far as Kendall is concerned, there has to be a reason. Ther just has to. Doesn't there?

[naivin]

I just remembered I have tickets for the 25th. How meaningless is that game going to be? Will the Brewers be mathematically eliminated, or just effectively eliminated? I better get someone to drive me, because I can't tell you how much beer I am going to drink before, during and after that thing. Man I am steamed.

[jason21nl]

this one of course made me mad, but like I said in the in the IGT, this is a stunned pain that I have never felt before after a baseball game. Just a killer, just a killer.

[WisconsinSportsRule]

I would love to know how Solomon Torres can't secure a 4 run lead with 2 outs. Seriously, what the hell? This team is in very big trouble and it hurts real bad right now.

[danzig6767]

I can see batting Counsell in that spot, but Kendall hits so many weak grounders and shallow flies, he litterally was the last guy on the team i wanted at the plate. Why both Ned/Dale refuse to EVER pinch hit for Kendall in critical sports is simply dumbfounding to me.

 

Counsell is at least left handed, so I will conceed that one, but as far as Kendall is concerned, there has to be a reason. Ther just has to. Doesn't there?

The baffling thing is i forget the exact game, but we were down a run in the 9th and Ned absolutely shocked me by pinch hitting Nelson for Kendall. Nelson just missed hitting a game tying homer, but still ended up getting a double.

 

Then, in three separate situations after that prior to today, Kendall was left to bat down a run in our last at bat facing a righthanded closer and nobody on base. How could both Ned/Dale see what happened when Kendall was pinch hit for by Nelson and then for whatever reason, choose to not try it again? How?

 

I'm not being unrealistic here. I fully understand that the odds would have been against whoever pinch hit for Kendall, hitting a game tying home run in that last at bat. At least the slight chance is there though and that's all the managers job, give his team it's best chance to win. If you're down a run in your last at bats and there is nobody on base with an out or two already, you pinch hit for Kendall and hope a guy with some power gets served up a meatball. Why is that so hard to see? Where is the downside?

 

Then today, we desperately need a flyball to the outfield. We have three backup catchers on the bench. The last thing we needed was a weakly hit grounder or a shallow popup/flyball, the two things Kendall specializes in. The season is partly on the line. Yet, there comes Kendall to the plate. Big shocker, he hits a weak grounder to third and no run scores.

 

The even more scary thing is i doubt Sveum even considered pinch hitting for Kendall. I desperately want to see the Brewers in the playoffs, but if we miss them, the slight silver lining is not ever having to see Ned or Sveum in a Brewers dugout

[sweepscc]

"I would love to know how Solomon Torres can't secure a 4 run lead with 2 outs. Seriously, what the hell? This team is in very big trouble and it hurts real bad right now."

Because he's yet another washed up retread reliever, the kind we've had to endure for the past five years.

[naivin]

Because he's yet another washed up retread reliever, the kind we've had to endure for the past five years.

 

Five years?!?!?!? Where have you been? Its been a lot longer than that.

[davego]

We are not allowed to PH for position players.

 

I sort of lost in the chat room today. I cracked under the weight of being a Brewer Fan. I'm about ready for a re-eduaction camp and come out a hockey fan.

[danzig6767]

"I would love to know how Solomon Torres can't secure a 4 run lead with 2 outs. Seriously, what the hell? This team is in very big trouble and it hurts real bad right now."

Because he's yet another washed up retread reliever, the kind we've had to endure for the past five years.

In defense of Torres, he's been much better than just some washed up retread except for todays debacle and the one against the Reds.

 

Kerry Wood is the closer for the best team in the NL and he hasn't exactly been a lock down guy. Torres gagged one big time today, that pitch to Soto was beyond ugly, but between the horrendous baserunning by us in the top of the 9th and all the stranded runners, the Cubs should never have had the chance to tie the game on that Soto homer.

[moofnelson]

If I am to be sent to hell when I die, I hope that I don't have to watch today's game for eternity. That would be beyond cruel.

[GAME05]

i had to walk away from the game with the 5-2 lead. I get back tonight and before I read the box score, think "well, lets see how the Brewers blew it today." ugh.

[Teatoe993]

I want to die.