Milwaukee Bucks 2013–2014

[FVBrewerFan]

Again, I agree it would be hard. Which is why it's not likely to happen. But in theory at least, wouldn't be too difficult. Trade the #2 to Philly for 3/10 or Orlando for 4/12. You may have to sweeten that deal a little, but very doable. So now you 2 lottery picks. The 3rd comes by trading any combination of your #31, first round pick next season, or players. Getting to say 13 or 14 could get done.

 

So there you go. In a way, it wouldn't be that tough in theory. Problem is, you need the other parties involved to cooperate. I don't expect them to have 3 lottery picks, but I will be surprised if no move at all is made.

 

If they get 3 lottery picks it needs to not involve next years pick as they will probably be pretty bad next year too.

 

They will be pretty bad, but so will the draft. For example, a #14 pick in this year's draft is probably better than a #3 or 4 in next year's draft.

[HiAndTight]

Again, I agree it would be hard. Which is why it's not likely to happen. But in theory at least, wouldn't be too difficult. Trade the #2 to Philly for 3/10 or Orlando for 4/12. You may have to sweeten that deal a little, but very doable. So now you 2 lottery picks. The 3rd comes by trading any combination of your #31, first round pick next season, or players. Getting to say 13 or 14 could get done.

 

So there you go. In a way, it wouldn't be that tough in theory. Problem is, you need the other parties involved to cooperate. I don't expect them to have 3 lottery picks, but I will be surprised if no move at all is made.

 

If they get 3 lottery picks it needs to not involve next years pick as they will probably be pretty bad next year too.

 

They will be pretty bad, but so will the draft. For example, a #14 pick in this year's draft is probably better than a #3 or 4 in next year's draft.

 

What are we possibly basing that on? There is a lot of talent in this years Freshmen class as well. Not like last years, but guys like Turner, Okafor, Mudiay, Alexander, etc..etc...it's obviously early, but I'd rather have a top 3-4 pick in next years draft than the 14th pick in this years draft any day of the week.

 

Plus, if we're bad next year, even if we're only the 6th or 7th worst team, we've got a shot at a top 3 pick. Not a chance I'd give that up for...who? Lavine from UCLA? McDermott?

 

Mudiay, could be a freak at PG. At 6'5 with incredible quickness and athletic ability, he could be a Russell Westbrook type PG to team with Giannis, Wiggins/Embiid and perhaps a pick in the 20's from this year.

 

 

 

It'd be great to add multiple players from this draft because it is a really good draft, better and deeper than just about any in the past decade plus, but I don't think it's quite as good as you are making it out to believe.

[miggs721]

Is it safe to say Drew will be around for the start of the year?

[trwi7]

Is it safe to say Drew will be around for the start of the year?

 

No

[tigerbrew]

I want Wiggins, really hope the Bucks get him.

[paul253]

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/06/2014_nba_draft_sixers_will_do_whatever_it_takes_to_get_andrew_wiggins_according_to_report.html

 

Saw this article. Basically it states that Philly will do whatever it takes to get Wiggins. If Embiid goes #1 overall the Bucks would be foolish not to make a deal with Philly. #2 for #3 and #10. If Philly says no you take Wiggins and be done with it.

[fondybrewfan]

Oh I definitely agree. If you can get Parker at #3 and pick up Pick #10 it is a no brainer. I don't like Wiggins that much more than Parker to turn that down. Take Gary Harris at #10; they desperately need some shooters.

[RockCoCougars]

I still don't think that the Cavs pass on Wiggins.

[patrickgpe]

I would trade 2 for 3 and 10 if that is a possibility. The Nuggets are looking to trade #11, i wonder if the 31st pick and a player protected 1st round pick would do it. You could be looking at bringing in Parker, and then 2 out of Gordon, Levine, or Harris

[superfly]

What is the infatuation with the 1980's drab green and boring white block letters? When I look at those jerseys all it does is remind me of the past 30 years of almost entirely mediocre teams that Herb Kohl fielded. I would have to think there are others out there that feel the same way. There is nothing inspiring whatsoever looking at those old schemes/designs.

 

I think we need to shift the shade of green to a bit lighter one (one that hasnt been used), and figure out a way to make the letters/numbers "pop." Something to excite people...something that they think "Man, I need one of those jerseys." Are you inspired to buy a 1980s looking drabby jersey?

[patrickgpe]

i think the font should be updated, i do like the piping on the side of the jerseys. I also would hope that the logo of the late 80's isn't considered for more than 2 seconds.

[patrickgpe]

so most fan uniform concepts are pretty lame, but I really do like this. the logo would need some work though.

[Warning Track Power]

This is EXACTLY the color scheme the Bucks should be going with. Those uniforms are quite attractive.

[paul253]

Those uniforms are awesome. I especially like the white ones. I am not a fan of bottom right though.

[superfly]

I really like the Celtic green one, but put the cursive letters on it in black.

[HiAndTight]

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/06/2014_nba_draft_sixers_will_do_whatever_it_takes_to_get_andrew_wiggins_according_to_report.html

 

Saw this article. Basically it states that Philly will do whatever it takes to get Wiggins. If Embiid goes #1 overall the Bucks would be foolish not to make a deal with Philly. #2 for #3 and #10. If Philly says no you take Wiggins and be done with it.

 

 

I'd make that trade as well, but I'm steering clear of Parker at #3. I'd be going for Exum. A 6'6 PG who can do it all(reportedly).

 

Parker is not great at anything. He's safe. The Bucks don't need safe. They need Giannis like upside. They need a guy who could become one of the top 2-3 players at his position in the NBA. I don't see that being Parker. I think Parker is a mixture of Grant Hill and Big Dog. A very good player no doubt, but he's not a good defender, and he isn't anywhere near as athletic as Exum(who's still just 18 years old).

 

And then at #10 I'd come back and grab Payton if we don't go with Exum, and if we did go with Embiid, I'd come back with Hood or James Young. Two BIG athletic shooters who can play the 2.

[HiAndTight]

What about the idea of taking Thanasis with one of the Bucks 2nd round picks just looking down the road to keep Giannis happy.

 

With the type of talent he is, IF he develops, if he somehow reaches his potential, he could be a franchise changing player. A top 5 player in the NBA. Now as close as he is with his family, and the prospect of adding a elite young talent in this draft class who we might have to convince to stay in Milwaukee as well, I would think these could all come together at some point.

 

Thanasis makes it more likely Giannis stays in Milwaukee(not that I think he's the type to bolt, especially if he maxes out and earns a max deal which he would in this perfect scenario) and Dante Exum, Embiid or Wiggins might be more inclined to stay in Milwaukee with a new Arena, an invigorated fan base and a team that's clearly on the path to winning(again, assuming Giannis turns into the 7 footer who can..though likely won't play SG, defend all 5 positions and has the athletic ability to dominate on both ends).

 

 

Don't get me wrong, we need to worry about adding the best player available 1st, but after that, with a 2nd rounder, we could take this into consideration.

 

By the way, lets just dream for a second that everything works out perfectly the next two years for the Bucks.

 

1st-Draft Embiid with the pick this year.

2nd-With Embiid and Giannis being so raw, both 7 footers, this team is going to struggle next year as well. The Bucks will likely end up with a higher lottery pick next year. Hell, they could get lucky like the Cavs and end up in the top 3. But I think Mudiay will be there around pick 4-7.

3rd-CJ Wilcox is a late 1st, early 2nd round pick. He's a great shooter and would be a great fit here. I don't really know what to do with the SG position yet. Maybe it's Knight for the moment, but that's a position we need to get better at. Middleton could start there as well(hell, Giannis played there this year, so I don't know it matters all that much who is the 2 and who is the 3).

4th-See if you can get rid of Mayo, Ersan and Zaza for whatever you can get.

 

 

 

I'm looking at a lineup of;

Emmanuel Mudiay-6'5 PG who is still growing. A mix of Marcus Smart with a physical frame and MCW's. A big, powerful PG.

SG-CJ Wilcox 6'5 SG who can shoot the lights out

Giannis-SF 7' athletic FREAK who can do anything on the court and looks like a star at times(and totally lost at others).

Henson-PF 6'11 Just a very good, solid, hard worker who has exploded for huge games at times. Hopefully can get more consistent.

Embiid-7' who has the potential to be a Hakeem type player. Another BIG time boost or bust type player, but the boom...Jesus that makes it worth while.

The big question here is SG obviously. You could play Knight there, but I like him as a Gordon type scorer off the bench.

A second unit of

Wolters/Knight/Middleton/Sanders/Adrien/Raduljica/Thanasis

 

With whatever you can get for Ersan/Mayo/Zaza and Delfino would be up by then.

 

Let this young group of players just play, go through the rebuilding, hope you hit on them and then start to sprinkle in a 2nd rounder/FA signing in the meantime when this group starts to take off, but make the core of the team Giannis, 2014 1st and 2015 lottery pick and hope they turn into a "big 3," and that Henson, Knight, Middleton, Wolters, Sanders, Adrien can turn into a couple of nice complimentary pieces.

 

 

Yes, this is incredibly convoluted and no, I don't think THIS is how things are going to turn out, but this TYPE of blueprint, the highest ceiling guys and no short term fixes with an eye on another 60 loss season next year so they can REALLY turn this franchise around ala, OKC is the only way we're going to get this franchise on track for a championship in the next 5-6 years.

 

If you like Wiggins and hope we get Turner next year, or Oubre, Alexander next year, fine. Just those types of high ceiling guys. But those guys seem to fit what we need and have the requisite high ceilings we need.

[superfly]

Hammond's trademark has been his ability to draft for upside. Parker doesn't fit the traditional Hammond draft type, but the other three do. If Lasry and Edens don't allow him to select the player it's a moot point.

[rwa12]

Read on ESPN that Chad Ford states that Philly won't give up 3 and 10 to move to 1. They would give up 3 and Thaddeus Young.

[paul253]

I really hope the Bucks find a way to exploit this. There should be no scenario in which they don't take either Embiid or Wiggins at #2, especially with how desperate Philly is to get Wiggins. I want nothing to do with Young, who has the opportunity to leave after this season. But in the past they've been reported to be willing to move PG Michael Carter-Williams. Maybe the #2 and #31 for MCW and #3? Or what about Philly's unprotected first rounder next year? Either way the Bucks have got to leverage Philly's desire to get Wiggins, especially if Cleveland stays put and takes Embiid.

[patrickgpe]

Read on ESPN that Chad Ford states that Philly won't give up 3 and 10 to move to 1. They would give up 3 and Thaddeus Young.

bad trade, draft wiggins or embiid then and worry about neither wanting to be here later.

[fondybrewfan]

Yeah I would rather draft Wiggins at #2 than Parker at #3 and Young. If the Bucks trade out of the #2 spot they absolutely have to pick up one or more additional lottery picks in 2014 and 2015. Don't try the pick for players unless it is a no brainer and Young is certainly not a no brainer.

 

Philly may say that now but if Embiid goes #1 and they know the Bucks are taking Wiggins at #3 they might get desperate. I would take Parker and Harris (#10) over just Wiggins at #2.

[superfly]

I really hope the Bucks find a way to exploit this. There should be no scenario in which they don't take either Embiid or Wiggins at #2, especially with how desperate Philly is to get Wiggins. I want nothing to do with Young, who has the opportunity to leave after this season. But in the past they've been reported to be willing to move PG Michael Carter-Williams. Maybe the #2 and #31 for MCW and #3? Or what about Philly's unprotected first rounder next year? Either way the Bucks have got to leverage Philly's desire to get Wiggins, especially if Cleveland stays put and takes Embiid.

 

#2, #36, and Knight for #3, #10, and Carter-Williams would be a pretty fair trade IMO, and I like MCW's potential more than Knight long term...he's more of a true point guard and has the length we need.

[trwi7]

MCW is no more of a true PG than Knight.

[patrickgpe]

http://aroyalpain.com/2014/06/11/kings-bucks-trade/

 

I'd do knight / sanders for McLemore / #8 / spare parts in a heartbeat.