Milwaukee Bucks 2013–2014

[paul253]

This team needs scoring, someone that can make an impact now. To me, that's Wiggins, though from what I can read, the Bucks don't seem to be too high on him.

The Bucks need a lot more than scoring. They were tied for 23rd in opponents points per game, 28th in defensive rebounds per game, 21st in total rebounding, and 26th in shooting percentage. Embiid could help all of that even if he doesn't develop his offensive game right away. If he is healthy I'd be thrilled to get him. I'd also like Wiggins because he has scoring potential is also considered a tough defender. I am less and less excited about Parker.

[patrickgpe]

Paul, i agree with you. I think Parker will have the best rookie season out of the 3, but has the least potential, plus i don't know where you play him in Milwaukee. I guess if Embiid is the pick, i won't be as disappointed as i thought i'd be last week.

[TooLiveBrew]

Saw it go by on the ticker during tonight's Brewers game that the new owners (Wes Edens, Marc Lasry) will be at McGillycuddy's tomorrow night at 7p to watch NBA playoffs action & give some kind of talk about their plans for the franchise &/or do a fan meet-&-greet.

[FVBrewerFan]

As long as that plan includes putting a shovel in the ground for a new arena ASAP.

[brwrsfan]

This team needs scoring, someone that can make an impact now. To me, that's Wiggins, though from what I can read, the Bucks don't seem to be too high on him.

The Bucks need a lot more than scoring. They were tied for 23rd in opponents points per game, 28th in defensive rebounds per game, 21st in total rebounding, and 26th in shooting percentage. Embiid could help all of that even if he doesn't develop his offensive game right away. If he is healthy I'd be thrilled to get him. I'd also like Wiggins because he has scoring potential is also considered a tough defender. I am less and less excited about Parker.

 

True. They suck all around. But they were also missing their best post presence in Sanders for most of the season. He would have almost certainly improved their defensive and rebounding numbers. I can throw out horrible offensive stats too:

 

95.5 PPG - 28th overall

43.8% FG% - 26th overall

35.3% 3PT% - 20th overall

 

IMO, we are a better defensive team than last year assuming Sander is healthy. Problem is, he doesn't help much on the offensive end. I'm not saying Embiid can't be good or won't help, I just think Wiggins or Parker would be much better options.

[patrickgpe]

Bucks will play a home game in London against the knicks on January 15th

[Baldkin]

This team needs scoring, someone that can make an impact now. To me, that's Wiggins, though from what I can read, the Bucks don't seem to be too high on him.

The Bucks need a lot more than scoring. They were tied for 23rd in opponents points per game, 28th in defensive rebounds per game, 21st in total rebounding, and 26th in shooting percentage. Embiid could help all of that even if he doesn't develop his offensive game right away. If he is healthy I'd be thrilled to get him. I'd also like Wiggins because he has scoring potential is also considered a tough defender. I am less and less excited about Parker.

 

True. They suck all around. But they were also missing their best post presence in Sanders for most of the season. He would have almost certainly improved their defensive and rebounding numbers. I can throw out horrible offensive stats too:

 

95.5 PPG - 28th overall

43.8% FG% - 26th overall

35.3% 3PT% - 20th overall

 

IMO, we are a better defensive team than last year assuming Sander is healthy. Problem is, he doesn't help much on the offensive end. I'm not saying Embiid can't be good or won't help, I just think Wiggins or Parker would be much better options.

 

 

In a team as talentless as the Bucks, you draft whomever the best player is at #2, and then fit the roster around them. You don't draft a lesser player based on need.

 

Drafting on need is how you draft Joe Alexander instead of Lopez.

[brwrsfan]

I agree. The Bucks have many holes. I guess we're just disagreeing on who that best player is. There's really no wrong pick here, it's just a fun debate.

[fondybrewfan]

Well if Embiid is the first pick I think everyone should universally want Wiggins #2. The problem is clearly coming when Wiggins gets picked #1 and the Bucks have to decide between Parker and Embiid. Parker has a lower ceiling and a higher floor than Embiid. Embiid could turn out to be great but his injury history scares me and he is definitely a project. Parker could step in and play right away. Fitting Embiid into the rotation would be pretty simple. Fitting Parker in could be an issue with Giannis, Ersan, Middleton, and Henson.

 

Its too bad that there isn't an elite PG or SG prospect that the Bucks could take here. Wiggins and Parker are both better suited for a SF spot and Embiid is a throwback C. Exum is a PG but no one should really be considering him at #2; at least I hope.

[RobDeer 45]

I don't like the risk associated with Embiid. I also think that being a C brings more risk for staying healthy. I would stay far away from him, even if his ceiling is so high. His floor is basement deep and we do not need that.

[rwa12]

The more I read about Exum, the more intrigued I am. The talking heads seem to be souring on Wiggins, as they say he has the highest bust potential. I agree with most on Parker, he has a very high floor, but I'm not sure about his ceiling. I don't think Embiid wants to come to Milwaukee, and I'd rather not deal with a Steve Francis situation. As I said earlier, this draft is loaded with starters/rotation guys. Highly unlikely, but would love it if the Bucks could end up with 2 first rounders. I think there is talent still in the late lottery-20s area.

[davego]

If Parker really equals Paul Pierce, I'm rethinking him as the #2. Hard to pass on that.

[fondybrewfan]

I guess Kohl wasn't kidding when he said he wanted to keep the Bucks in MIL.

 

He got offered $650 Million from Ballmer who would have moved the team to Seattle. That is $100 Million more than the purchase price plus Kohl wouldn't have committed the $100 Million to build a new arena either.

 

I guess at Kohls age what is the difference between being $450 Million rich or $650 Million rich. Its all about legacy.

 

I wonder how much Kohl is going to be paying in capital gains taxes; it has got to be a ton; $100 Million + probably.

[brwrsfan]

Yeah. Say what you want about Herb Kohl as the acting owner or as a senator, but you have to give the man credit for this. Maybe it was for his own benefit from a legacy perspective - but the Bucks are staying in this state purely because of him. He could have sold the team several times - Jordan wanted to buy it at one point too - but he refused unless they kept the team here.

 

Yeah, at his age and with his wealth, 200M likely wouldn't have made that much difference, but it's still pretty incredible that he would do that.

[adamb100]

New owners said they want to be quick with the new arena. They hope to be breaking ground next summer. I don't think they know what they're in for if they expect only a year to get approved.

[paul253]

New owners said they want to be quick with the new arena. They hope to be breaking ground next summer. I don't think they know what they're in for if they expect only a year to get approved.

 

Welcome to Milwaukee politics. You have certain alderman who I'm sure won't agree to any tax money being uses unless additional money for public transit is approved. You have the head of the Wisconsin Center District who won't agree to tear down aging and unnecessary buildings to make room for development because he feels he will lose power with two less buildings to be in charge of. You have a local businessman who won't allow any more desperately needed hotels to be developed because they might take away business from him. And you have taxpayers who think paying a 0.1% tax to get this done is going to bankrupt them. Unless new owners build the thing themselves I'm still of the belief it won't get done.

[homer]

New owners said they want to be quick with the new arena. They hope to be breaking ground next summer. I don't think they know what they're in for if they expect only a year to get approved.

 

From what I've read/heard the new owners are 100% they can get an arena deal done. These guys didn't just fall off the turnip truck so I find reason to be optimistic.

[patrickgpe]

huge news from marc and wesley over the last few days:

 

-bucks looks at changing logo and color scheme

-bucks looking at bringing in 5-10 local investors

-bucks looking to hire a team president

 

i really have a good feeling about these owners. seem to be doing all of the right things, i actually think they will be able to pull off getting this new arena.

[paul253]

I'm curious about the new color scheme, if they are going to have a minor switch like when they went from green and purple to green and red or if they are going to completely blow it up. I hope they keep green as the main color.

 

One other thing they mentioned was the lack of Bucks apparel stores around the city. That's something I've noticed too. I hope that IF the Bucks get a new arena and IF the whole area is redeveloped like it should be at least one sports apparel shop opens. I walked around Pittsburgh a few years ago and there was sports shop after sports shop after sports shop. Just one sports shop here would be nice. And one with decent prices. No $17 t-shirts.

[trwi7]

Hopefully red or blue aren't main colors. I really like green and black together, so I hope they go with a hunter green, lime green and black color scheme. That could look awesome if done right.

[RockCoCougars]

Based on rumors I've seen elsewhere, it sounds like a housecleaning in the front office is coming soon and additionally Drew is gone. My guess is that this will probably be timed similar to the Grunfield/Karl purge back in the day (after the draft). As for the colors, I'm kind of hoping that the two tone green style from the 80's is what they go with. I will never be accused of being stylish, but it seems that the brighter green color is 'in' these days. As for the draft pick, it's going to be a difficult decision regardless of who Cleveland picks.

[RobDeer 45]

No $17 t-shirts.

 

Isn't that cheap for a licensed T-shirt?

[rwa12]

This would be my last choice, however, given the location of the team, the mascot, and the demographic. Doesn't it make sense for them to keep green, and use a woodlands camo type coloring. I hate camoflage (ex-military, wore it for work, don't see the appeal), but given the amount of love for Cabela-esque fashion. Wouldn't they have to consider it for at least an alternate uni? Tell me honestly, you couldn't see people at WalMart buying Bucks jerseys in a hunting camo pattern?

[Warning Track Power]

I'm curious about the new color scheme, if they are going to have a minor switch like when they went from green and purple to green and red or if they are going to completely blow it up. I hope they keep green as the main color.

I read somewhere that they were contemplating red and black as the main colors...COME ON!! We aren't the Bulls, Heat, Blazers, Raptors or one of the many other teams that wear red and black.

 

Stick to the green and bring in the lighter green and white to compliment it. It doesn't have to be the Bucks uniforms of the 1980s seen below, but at least use it as the base for the color scheme, as I think that is what most of the fans identify them with.

 

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/teamsites/images/legacy/bucks/pressey_640_0.jpg

[RobDeer 45]

This would be my last choice, however, given the location of the team, the mascot, and the demographic. Doesn't it make sense for them to keep green, and use a woodlands camo type coloring. I hate camoflage (ex-military, wore it for work, don't see the appeal), but given the amount of love for Cabela-esque fashion. Wouldn't they have to consider it for at least an alternate uni? Tell me honestly, you couldn't see people at WalMart buying Bucks jerseys in a hunting camo pattern?

 

Throw in some blaze orange too! Haha. I really could see this working. They already sell a bunch of sports stuff in a camo version, mind as well go next level. In an era where the more ridiculous the uniform, the better, lets go with it. Have a bar at the new stadium looking down towards the court and call it the Tree Stand too!