2007 Vent Thread, Part 6

[bklynbrewcrew]

The defense is what killed Cappy most last night. We all love Braun but the guy is probably the worst defensive third baseman in the game today. As for Weeks he cant even throw out a pitcher on a routine ground ball. The defense is the biggest weakness on a team full of holes.

[Fatter than Joey]

And he certainly has been very unlucky, too. I'm not denying that. But this is a pennant race. You can't afford inaction right now. While Suppan has shown signs of life at times, Cappy has been crappy pretty much since May.

 

Look, I am all for beating up Ned Yost, but I think any sort of finesse pitcher is going to struggle for the Brewers, regardless of whether they are pitching out of the rotation or in the BP.

 

Vargas has been struggling just as much, has less of a track record and generally has more problems going deeper into games.

 

The same can be said for Bush as well.

[RightFieldCoder]

Weeks he cant even throw out a pitcher on a routine ground ball.

 

Weeks had to range pretty far up the hole to get to it and went to set his feet so he wouldn't make an off-balance throw that would go into the stands. He was just surprised to see a pitcher actually hustle down the line. I thought pitchers and catchers weren't supposed to run?

 

I'm getting upset with the bandwagon fans. They wanted Cappy out of the game right away, even though Parra was obviously not loose yet. They clapped when Yost came to get Cappy. Then they cursed Yost when Parra gave up some walks and hits. Well who did you think was going to come into the game? And this is the same Parra that you want to start the game instead of Cappy? Let alone when they boo Weeks for taking pitches. We make Wells throw 26 pitches in the first inning and do a good job of being patient. Then he only uses 33 to get through the next 3 innings. If we had continued to be patient and make him pitch, the Cards would have had to pull their pitcher early also. That is the difference I see in the Brewers offense and other teams.

[brewcrew00]

I think Cappy's lack of ability to attack hitters is what killed him last night and since last July for that matter. Furthermore, I don't want to extend another dime to Sheets til he pitches a full season. Call it bad luck or not, he's making enough money to rehab right now.

[RyDogg66]

Yeah, I think we should wait until Sheets puts together a full season of dominant starts before we consider extending him.

 

The reality is this. If you think that the injuries Sheets has had in the past 3 years are an indication that he will have MORE injuries over the next 5 years, then maybe your argument holds water. However, his injuries are not of the reoccurring type. Sign him NOW to an extension while we can afford him. Waiting until he puts together another year like 2004 is just assuring that we wont be able to retain him.

[RightFieldCoder]

Unfortunatly Sheets reminds me of Jenkins. Always getting an injury, none of which are reoccuring and none of which have anything to do with the other. But by the time the bad luck of getting hurt goes away, the production falls off because of age.

[Invader3K]

I am not opposed to extending Sheets, but I do question why some are so eager for it. I know he's an amazing pitcher when he's "on", but he hasn't exactly been stellar for almost three seasons now, due to various injuries. Everyone is pining for him to be the pitcher he was back in '04. How do we know that is ever going to happen at this point?

[Ennder]

I am not opposed to extending Sheets, but I do question why some are so eager for it. I know he's an amazing pitcher when he's "on", but he hasn't exactly been stellar for almost three seasons now, due to various injuries. Everyone is pining for him to be the pitcher he was back in '04. How do we know that is ever going to happen at this point?

 

His stats over the last 3 seasons would probably put him in the top 10 pitchers in baseball if you extrapolated them over full seasons. I guess I fail to see what you are getting at?

[Yaz]

Hmmm - went to the game last night and left in the 7th inning. Now that I have had a chance to sleep on it I am glad I didn't post last night. I would have said some VERY CHOICE things about one Chris Capuano. But he needs to be either skipped a few times or just sent to the bullpen and take over the long relief role. This is the 2nd year in a row where he has started strong and just FADED AWAY. Unfortunately for the Brewers he started his fade a lot earlier this year. And it doesn't help this team is in a pennant race.

 

Rickie Weeks & Billy Hall I didn't forget about the two of you either. Rickie will you EVER get another hit in MLB? Bill Hall quit spitting and acting like your God's gift to man! I want the Bill Hall back before he got his big contract. The one that played with passion and hit in the clutch. Now we are stuck with a .255 - .265 hitter with little or no power.

 

Just a little tidbit I caught listening to radio last night - Our 1 to 3 starters over the last 6 weeks have not registered a win. Too bad Mark A. & Doug M. think we are ok down the stretch. Time to start looking around and finding some players before Sept 1st.

[Invader3K]

My point was that maybe we have to quit talking about "extrapolating" and "potential" with Sheets, and weigh whether he should get an extension based on what he's done and can be reasonably expected to do in the future. Can you logically say Sheets will bounce back and have a 15+ win season next year, at this point? Don't get me wrong, I hope he does, but it doesn't seem like a reasoned assumption at this point.

[adambr2]

It's amazing to see how close the Cardinals are to us with how much more healthy talent we have on our team than they do.

 

Right now, we look like a scared, young team, in an unfamiliar position, whereas the Cardinals look like a confident, veteran team that just know what needs to be done. Amazing how that works.

[endaround]

Right now Sheets is 32nd in VORP among pitchers even though he's missed time. It isn't potential when you're doing it

[SeriesFinale]

Right now these guys can't even inspire a good vent. Talk about slouching into the home stretch.

[adambr2]

Is there anything more fun than watching this team right now? The only things I can think of are getting your teeth pulled, eating cockroaches, drinking paint, walking across tacks, and sitting on blocks of ice.

[Ennder]

My point was that maybe we have to quit talking about "extrapolating" and "potential" with Sheets, and weigh whether he should get an extension based on what he's done and can be reasonably expected to do in the future. Can you logically say Sheets will bounce back and have a 15+ win season next year, at this point? Don't get me wrong, I hope he does, but it doesn't seem like a reasoned assumption at this point.

 

Yeah I think he probably does. His shoulder has been fine and he had a finger injury that can happen to any pitcher. He's thrown the ball extremely well even with the injuries which is why i didn't really get your point about him not doing well the last 3 years when he was playing.

[moofnelson]

My point was that maybe we have to quit talking about "extrapolating" and "potential" with Sheets, and weigh whether he should get an extension based on what he's done and can be reasonably expected to do in the future. Can you logically say Sheets will bounce back and have a 15+ win season next year, at this point? Don't get me wrong, I hope he does, but it doesn't seem like a reasoned assumption at this point.

Yeah I think he probably does. His shoulder has been fine and he had a finger injury that can happen to any pitcher. He's thrown the ball extremely well even with the injuries which is why i didn't really get your point about him not doing well the last 3 years when he was playing.

 

I'm all for signing Sheets. At what cost, though?

[twobrewers]

ARGGG!!!

 

Vent! Vent! Vent!

 

I can't take this anymore.

 

I am almost dreading having tickets for two games this weekend.

[adambr2]

It's almost hard to even enjoy the game anymore. Seems that they're usually out of it by the 5th inning. They're getting beat down by a less talented, but smarter, veteran, better managed team that knows how to win.

[burniebrewer]

Is there anything more fun than watching this team right now? The only things I can think of are getting your teeth pulled, eating cockroaches, drinking paint, walking across tacks, and sitting on blocks of ice.

How about pissing razors?

Boo!

 

[PrinceFielder28]

Yaz you made it until the 7th last night..i went home in the 5th and knew then the game was over...another stellar performance again tonight

[PrinceFielder28]

Fire Yost!

[moofnelson]

I have a feeling that this is how most of the Milwaukee Brewer's teams in the last 25 years have played in the middle of August. Twenty games out of first, and just running out the string until the end of September. Getting pounded night after night by teams fighting for a pennant. Sadly, it looks like this year won't be much different. Crappy pitching, lousy hitting and shoddy defense. I've seen this story before.

 

So, I'm through venting. I've used up my allocated vents for this year. Early on, it looked like I would be able to cruise into late September with a handful of vents intact. Alas, it wasn't meant to be. It's been a fun season though. Well, at least is was until the Ramirez home run. Everything seemed to change after that. It's been a meat grinder since. I think this team is worn out. I'm worn out. Tonight was the first time all year I didn't want to turn the game on.

[twobrewers]

I know MANY people are on the Fire Ned bandwagon as of late...

 

Am I the only one who wants to fire him and go with Kremblas the rest of the season just to light a fire under the kids butts. I don't honestly think Ned is at fault, but firing him would let EVERYONE in the clubhouse blame him and move on.

 

I want to scapegoat Ned publically to take the blame off of the players and let them start over.

[markedman5]

I've gotten to the point where it really doesn't even get to me that much anymore. I've come to the conclusion that we just aren't a very good team.

 

Our defense is bad. Our starting pitching is bad. Our offense is almost totally built around hitting home runs.

 

When we do get a decent starting performace and build a lead our bullpen has blown it far too often in the last few months.

 

The only way we win the division is by default since someone has to win it.

 

ps. Is anyone else sick of Schroeder reminding us that "we are still in first place" after each game that we lose?

[PeaveyFury]

We should have traded our entire farm system for a few more arms. Our current ones kinda blow.