2007 Vent Thread, Part 6

[brewmann04]

they have to be close to a record now.

But i never see a team that has so many pitchers that can't get into the 6th

[brewmann04]

Maybe they should swap the Nashville staff now

[HebrewHammer]

My heart is breaking more and more.

[pitchleague]

wasn't a fan of the Linebrink batting event. If our back end of the bullpen is so good, why not PH with a lead and get Turnbow in? And, if he struggles because he pitched yesterday? Bring in Wise or Parra (he is still with the team, right?). Heck, bring in Cordero is Turnbow struggles.

 

But, no, he leaves in Linebrink. Okay, I lived with the decision but man, as the manager you have to realize that a short reliever is starting to get hit hard. And get the pen up.

 

Same goes for that 6th inning (again) when nobody was even warming up (!) when Capuano began letting things slide away. Even after the 2-run homer to make it 1-run game, nobody got up for at least a batter.

 

I'm all for giving our pitchers "chances" to get their confidence up but our manager needs to decide if we are just working on confidence (for next season, presumably?) or actually trying to win games and contend this year.

[Bruce Ciskie]

Same goes for that 6th inning (again) when nobody was even warming up (!) when Capuano began letting things slide away. Even after the 2-run homer to make it 1-run game, nobody got up for at least a batter.

 

This goes back, IMHO, to the mini-argument I had with Ennder in the game thread. If Parra is up too high in innings now, then we need to get him back to the minors and get a body in that bullpen who can actually pitch if needed. We're so pinched in the pen because of, well, all the starters sucking. Parra only being available for an inning or two every 4-5 days, as it seems, is killing them.

[brettac1]

I didn't catch this game at all (thankfully, apparently) since I was at work since 6 this morning. Wow - Ned let Linebrink hit? Are you kidding me?

 

It was stupid enough to trade for the chump, but man, how do you let a reliever hit?

[brewmann04]

Happy Birthday Chris and best of Luck in The PEN

[JohnBriggs12]

Yost put his neck out starting Capuano. Unless Melvin weilds the ax, I'd bet he'll do it again.

[Ennder]

I didn't catch this game at all (thankfully, apparently) since I was at work since 6 this morning. Wow - Ned let Linebrink hit? Are you kidding me?

 

It was stupid enough to trade for the chump, but man, how do you let a reliever hit?

Linebrink came in with the bases loaded and 1out in the 7th and got a double play right away. Next inning Hardy led off with a HR to give the Brewers a lead. Yost then let Linebrink hit for himself and then he came out in the 8th and gave up a few dink and dunk hits and then a solid double. I don't have a huge issue with leaving Linebrink in to hit for himself after getting out of that inning so fast, but he certainly should not have been facing Valentin at that point.

 

Still confused about how we'd go about removing Capuano from the rotation or why we would want to, but most vents confuse me so I guess i'll live with it. Unless you want to bring up some random scrub from AAA to start instead of trying to let Capuano worth through his problems, which just means we get a pitcher who has never been good in the rotation instead of one that has been good at times.

[brewmann04]

well ned has to step up now and do the right thing time for the GM to get involved here

[brettac1]

Yeah, I also have zero idea how they're going to replace Cappy when they have no replacement.

 

There isn't an option on either the MLB or AAA rosters that I can see.

[DuWayne Steurer]

I wouldn't call those "dink and dunk" hits. He walked Dunn, Conine lined a solid single to right, and the next guy drilled a single to left. Each of those balls were hard hit.

 

That aside, it's mind boggling, to the point of ludicrousness, that a team can blow this many 5 run leads in so short a time. It's absolutely appalling that a 5 run lead for this team is nothing but a recipe for disaster.

 

In reality, it's awfully tough to say a season is "over" when you're 1 game back with 38 games left to play, but I can honestly say I don't see how a team can expect to win when you can't count on your pitching staff to give up less than 7 runs a game any more than once a week. Even the 27 Yankees would have a hard time scoring enough runs to win consistently with this awful, awful group of pitchers we're throwing out there right now.

[Ennder]

Yeah its hard to feel good about the pitching right now. Every single pitcher on the team scares me when they come in and thats not a good thing. Linebrink is probably the one I trusted the most lately which is why it didn't bother me that much that he hit for himself. We have a 7.00 ERA for the month before today and a .924 OPS against, that is a complete meltdown. We have given up 32 HR's in the past 17 games now, yuck.

[adambr2]

They could always start Parra, but they may be trying to watch his innings very closely this year, which they should. Especially coming back from injury.

 

Really the only other option is Zach Jackson. I don't know. Does it even really matter at this point? Capuano isn't our only problem. We just stink in general right now. I'm not sure bringing up a 4.00+ ERA pitcher from AAA is going to make much of a difference. Maybe it'll take the other teams a couple games to see him and that might buy us a win or two. I don't know.

[Big Jay of the North]

Can someone please tell me why any manager with a full 8-man bull pen would bat a relief pitcher in a one run game in the bottom of the 7th inning? I know its been covered already, but what was Yost thinking. A releif pitcher who hasn't batted all year is a virtual guarenteed out and of course Gross doubles and if a guy like Counsell or Dillon gets on its another run and you bring in Turnbow for the 8th. I'm not saying a pinch hitter is a lock to get on base but he sure has a better chance to get on then Scott Linebrink. We have seen over the past few weeks what a one run lead means for this team and we have been far from automatic in those situations. Please Ned wake up before its too late!

[brettac1]

It's almost inexplicable, the same way it would be if they had a 1.10 ERA and a .650 OPS against in September. Both things are so on the extremes that it's probably equally difficult to accmplish. I mean, they really aren't this bad, but it is getting increasingly difficult to think that when things do straighten out some that they will be anything better than defense just because of the guys that attempt to catch the ball.

[Bruce Ciskie]

Is Villanueva so far gone now that it's too late to try to get him back this season?

 

I don't know that it would work, but could it really hurt at this point to give Villanueva the next start in Capuano's turn, which wouldn't have to come until Saturday because of the day off Thursday? Shelf him until Saturday, give him a side session like he's a starter. Considering the results of his last 16 starts, it can't go any worse.

[Brewer Fever]

Yeah, I also have zero idea how they're going to replace Cappy when they have no replacement.

 

There isn't an option on either the MLB or AAA rosters that I can see.

 

I was thinking the same thing when the threat was made by Yost. They better have a replacement in mind. The only thing worse than not making a change is making shallow ultimatums without making a change. Yost would have been far better off saying that we just don't have any choice but to keep sending Cappy out there and hope he turns it around.

[And That]

I have completely run out of the expletives needed to describe this team.

[Ennder]

I dunno but if there is one pitcher on the team who has been worse than Capuano recently its Villanueva and the reason would seem to be he's worn down from overuse, so I don't really see the move making much sense.

At this point I think you leave Capuano out there and pray he turns it around, if he's shown one thing in his career its that his month to month stats are all over the place.

[Bruce Ciskie]

I dunno but if there is one pitcher on the team who has been worse than Capuano recently its Villanueva and the reason would seem to be he's worn down from overuse, so I don't really see the move making much sense.

 

Oh, I don't deny how horrible Villy's been. Not at all.

 

But a loss is a loss. And at least we'd be trying something to break the monotony. Capuano starting isn't working. Villanueva doing anything doesn't appear to be working.

 

If this doesn't work, you've given Capuano some time away from the pressure of starting, even if it's only 10-12 days.

[bklynbrewcrew]

We have been an exceptionally unlucky team lately as well. It seems like every ground ball gets through the infield for a single while the Brewers hit many line drives right at players. The frustration is building more and more with each and every day. Hopefully 2008 will be a great year with Bobby Valentine as manager. This team has way way too much talent to fall apart like this.

[Brian the Automator]

I was thinking the same thing when the threat was made by Yost. They better have a replacement in mind. The only thing worse than not making a change is making shallow ultimatums without making a change. Yost would have been far better off saying that we just don't have any choice but to keep sending Cappy out there and hope he turns it around.

If Yost doesn't send Capuano to the pen, or Melvin doesn't option him to AAA, Yost has officially lost any authority he has left, in my book. I'm assuming (hoping) this was discussed with Doug before he came out and said something.

McClung is getting stretched out in AAA. If we don't see him start by Wednesday, it might be a big tip-off. I also wouldn't be shocked to see Villanueva in the rotation. 4 days off between appearances may actually give him his stamina back.

[pebadger]

But a loss is a loss. And at least we'd be trying something to break the monotony.

 

I thought the hiarcuts were supposed to take care of that.http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif

[bklynbrewcrew]

As upset as I am with Capuano he really hasnt been any worse than Suppan. If we should take Cappy out of the rotation Suppan should follow him.