Behold the Talents of Jean Segura

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

Great piece...7 tool player, that's awesome.

 

This kid does something special every night. The energy he brings has to be the highlight of a dreary 2013 (along with the rise of Gomez). He's so easy to root for.

 

My younger daughter has adopted Jean as her new favorite player now that Prince is gone...I quote, "Wow, Daddy, he's fast"

[homer]

Anyone know where his condo/apartment is? I couldn't place it. I assume it's east side, downtown.

[trwi7]

Jean: Hey, speak slow because you speak fast.

 

Rickie: You listen too slow.

 

[chadomac]

I was trying to figure that out too. I was thinking 3rd ward.

[Blancofan1]

I think my favorite part about Segura is the look on his face after making the great play. He smiles like a 12 year old who impresses everyone including himself with his talents.

[Nottso]

Jean: Hey, speak slow because you speak fast.

 

Rickie: You listen too slow.

 

 

I dunno which was better. The above quote or the "7 tool player" bit by Ramirez. Excellent piece.

[fondybrewfan]

There is something wrong with the world if Brandon Crawford starts ahead of Jean Segura in the All Star game.

[narwhalattack]

Well the Giants are more well known than the Brewers. Heck, I bet that there are some people out there who can't figure out which region of the U.S Milwaukee is located in.

[Bombers]

Well the Giants are more well known than the Brewers. Heck, I bet that there are some people out there who can't figure out which region of the U.S Milwaukee is located in.

I can attest to that. When I travel and say I am from Milwaukee, I get the blank stare back at me. So I always follow it up with, "about 2 hours north of Chicago" ... then I get the "ooooohhhhhhhh, ok."

[502 to Right]

Crappy game tonight but Jean Segura provides a bright spot as usual. I had him timed at 3.9 seconds home to first on his infield single in the 9th. He doesn't look it with his thick lower half but the dude can fly.

[502 to Right]

Current OPS:

 

.889 Jean Segura

.585 Starlin Castro

 

Amazing.

[PrinceFielderx1]

Current OPS:

 

.889 Jean Segura

.585 Starlin Castro

 

Amazing.

 

This is just another sign that he needs to get a long term deal asap. His deal is going to surpass Castros deal.

[Baldkin]

2nd Half OPS: Segura: .587, Castro: .596

 

What is wrong with Jean?

 

And "He's just tired" isn't a sufficient answer. He's 23, he shouldn't get tired, ever.

[RWeeksFan23]

I'd say being tired is valid, he almost never got a day off this season it seemed like. It's a long season. Plus just flat out regression.

[TooLiveBrew]

2nd Half OPS: Segura: .587, Castro: .596

 

What is wrong with Jean?

 

And "He's just tired" isn't a sufficient answer. He's 23, he shouldn't get tired, ever.

Yeah, because playing baseball almost every day for 170+ days consecutively doesn't have a cumulative effect...

[Baldkin]

2nd Half OPS: Segura: .587, Castro: .596

 

What is wrong with Jean?

 

And "He's just tired" isn't a sufficient answer. He's 23, he shouldn't get tired, ever.

Yeah, because playing baseball almost every day for 170+ days consecutively doesn't have a cumulative effect...

 

When you're 23? No, it really doesn't. It's baseball. It's not like he's running 12 miles a day, or running into 300 lb defensive lineman. If he isn't taking care of his body and he's tired or injured as a result, that's a problem going forward. It's not like he hasn't gotten days off. He's not-started 7 games already this season -- 5% of the year.

 

So, if he's tired is the excuse, then what does the team do next year? Start him 130 games instead of 150? Stop letting him hang out with Yuni?

[torts]

Stop letting him hang out with Yuni?

 

YES. this is obviously the problem.

[502 to Right]

I saw this coming a mile away. He's played 133 of 137 games. Around the all-star break I suggested that the Brewers give him more time off. They haven't and the results are predictable.

 

Keep in mind that Segura has never played as much baseball as he has in the last year and a half. He played last season up through the end of September and then played Winter Ball. Not much time off. Hopefully this winter he skip winter ball but I doubt he will.

[TooLiveBrew]

2nd Half OPS: Segura: .587, Castro: .596

 

What is wrong with Jean?

 

And "He's just tired" isn't a sufficient answer. He's 23, he shouldn't get tired, ever.

Yeah, because playing baseball almost every day for 170+ days consecutively doesn't have a cumulative effect...

 

When you're 23? No, it really doesn't. It's baseball. It's not like he's running 12 miles a day, or running into 300 lb defensive lineman. If he isn't taking care of his body and he's tired or injured as a result, that's a problem going forward. It's not like he hasn't gotten days off. He's not-started 7 games already this season -- 5% of the year.

 

So, if he's tired is the excuse, then what does the team do next year? Start him 130 games instead of 150? Stop letting him hang out with Yuni?

Mental fatigue can play an even bigger role than any physical fatigue (or lack thereof).

 

If fatigue as a whole played the seemingly minimal role you're implying it has (or should have wrt Segura), every player would be consistent from week to week & month to month.

[JackNicholson1974]

Didnt he play all winter too?

 

But yeah, I hope its just fatigue because his OPS has been brutal.

[joepepsi]

Like Gomez he had started with 3 fantastic months. Then both regressed. Fans and press remember early season performance, so these guys are lucky in that regard.

[dlk9s]

lol at not being allowed to get a bit worn out just because someone's 23.

[TooLiveBrew]

Like Gomez he had started with 3 fantastic months. Then both regressed. Fans and press remember early season performance, so these guys are lucky in that regard.

Frankly, I think it's because early (somewhat sustained) success 'hides' your struggles in the season line. For example, the casual fan will glance & see that Segura's AVG is still over .300, & come to the conclusion that he's hit well all season.

 

When you start out by struggling but then recover & heat up, it can take so long for your season line to reflect the improvement that many/most fans are slower to notice it than in the opposite scenario.

[brewcrewdue80]

Just for comparison sake on these worries.

 

Troy Tulowitzki on June 9th had this season line: .351/.419/.654 in 234PAs 16HRs 51RBI

 

Since: .265/.346/.420 in 182PAs. 6HR 18RBI

 

Yes that's still a decent slash line for a SS but how bout one that calls Coors Field home? Keep in mind Tulo has 0! Triples...How many could Segura have driving balls in to the spacious OF of Coors? Much less Doubles. Or random HRs each month.

 

I'd think Segura's struggles since his early beginning to the season would at least equal the struggles Tulo has been having since his early tear. I'm not worried about Segura one bit.

[Baldkin]

lol at not being allowed to get a bit worn out just because someone's 23.

 

So, only young guys under 25 get worn out from the long season? How come veteran players don't get the excuse "He's just tired"?

 

I guess I was hoping for too much as I've been unable to watch games for 6 weeks, I figured this board might actually supply a bit of insight.