The Kyle Lohse Love/Hate Thread

[splitterpfj]

Adding Lohse makes plenty of sense, for the sake of upgrading the 2013 rotation.

 

BUT

 

I would have kept that pick. Without even thinking of how St Louis gets the pick, even if it was going somewhere else...I would have kept the pick.

[Warning Track Power]

What also is infuriating is the fact that now we have signed a guy to a "multi-year contract" who isn't going to be ready for Opening Day apparently. If we were going to do this, why not do it three weeks ago so he would a part of the rotation from Opening Day?

 

I really hope we all eat our words after winning the Division in October and Lohse goes 15-7 with a 3.5 ERA.

[MVP2110]

Adding Lohse makes plenty of sense, for the sake of upgrading the 2013 rotation.

 

BUT

 

I would have kept that pick. Without even thinking of how St Louis gets the pick, even if it was going somewhere else...I would have kept the pick.

 

Either Way the Cardinals were going to get the 28th pick. that had nothing to do with us

[fondybrewfan]

Well crap

[markedman5]

3 years 11 million per year

 

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/brewers.html

[wisniewski]

Adding Lohse makes plenty of sense, for the sake of upgrading the 2013 rotation.

 

This.

 

As much as I was against Lohse, none of the young guys did much to give anyone hope this spring training. I hate to say it, but I look at Fiers as fools gold, and Rogers is just simply an overrated, bad pitcher.

[chadomac]

wow. i was not expecting this to be for three years. yuck.

[narwhalattack]

3 years 11 million per year

 

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/brewers.html

 

 

Oof! So we're stuck with Lohse until he's 37. How long would it be until the effectiveness wears off?

[brwrsfan]

So nobody wants him, it's almost time for the season to start and the best we can do is 3 years/33 million? Really? What was the asking price two months ago?

 

He's already 34, awesome deal Doug, Awesome. /blue

[Bombers]

The cardinals wont get "our" pick, they get an additional pick after the first round. I may be wrong though.

I am pretty sure they get our pick ... Which is why it is a horrible signing

[fondybrewfan]

3/33 I guess isn't all that bad but why always with the 3rd year? We all know he is going to be a flaming pile of Suppan by that time.

 

I am not as mad as I would have been if the young guys hadn't sucked all spring. We were facing an atricious starting rotation they way those guys were pitching. So at least that part of it makes sense.

 

I don't know that Lohse is really blocking anybody either. There are three spots for everyone not named Gallardo or Lohse so the younger guys should still get ample opportunity unless Narveson, Peralta, etc don't let go of those spots

[MVP2110]

So nobody wants him, it's almost time for the season to start and the best we can do is 3 years/33 million? Really? What was the asking price two months ago?

 

He's already 34, awesome deal Doug, Awesome. /blue

 

I get the feeling this is more Mark A then Doug. just a feeling though

[wisniewski]

The cardinals wont get "our" pick, they get an additional pick after the first round. I may be wrong though.

I am pretty sure they get our pick ... Which is why it is a horrible signing

 

No. The Cardinals do not.

 

The pick the Brewers have simply goes away, and every team moves up one. The Cards pick will come at the end of the round.

[Raw Biz]

The cardinals wont get "our" pick, they get an additional pick after the first round. I may be wrong though.

I am pretty sure they get our pick ... Which is why it is a horrible signing

 

No, it's been pointed out that the new CBA eliminates that. The signing team loses a pick but the other team receives a supplemental pick, not the signing team's pick.

[GamelToe]

If we wanted a legitimate shot to compete this year, you had to make this signing. Our rotation was basically Gallardo and a bunch of #4 starters. That wouldn't get it done.

[MVP2110]

The cardinals wont get "our" pick, they get an additional pick after the first round. I may be wrong though.

I am pretty sure they get our pick ... Which is why it is a horrible signing

 

No the new cba switched this. They only get an additional pick after the first round which in this case is the 28th pick

[MVP2110]

3/33 isnt horrible to me. i like the fact its not for 15 per. I can live with the 3rd year

[burnzy24]

So nobody wants him, it's almost time for the season to start and the best we can do is 3 years/33 million? Really? What was the asking price two months ago?

 

He's already 34, awesome deal Doug, Awesome. /blue

 

For some reason I feel like this signing had more to do with MA than with Doug. I read something a while back that Boras was calling MA directly and giving him his Lohse pitch, but I could be wrong.

 

Sometimes I wish the Brewers were more like the Packers in free agency.

[yoshii8]

3 years 11 million per year

 

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/brewers.html

 

 

Just to be clear, that's what TH is hearing, nothings official yet.

[narwhalattack]

If we wanted a legitimate shot to compete this year, you had to make this signing. Our rotation was basically Gallardo and a bunch of #4 starters. That wouldn't get it done.

 

How much impact would this signing have, really? I don't think going from 79 to 83 wins isn't going to get this team to the playoffs.

[splitterpfj]

Right, I misspoke, it isn't "our pick", but we don't have a pick in round one now, and St Louis gets an extra pick. I said it wrong, but the sentiment is there. I wouldn't have done it, because of the pick.

[Thurston Fluff]

While I'm not a fan of this signing it looks more like a Wolf signing than a Suppan one. He'll likely give a us a couple years of above average to average production and probably totally waste $11 million the third. Not a good signing long term but it should help us this season.

[Warning Track Power]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lohseky01.shtml

 

Most similar through age 28, 29, 30...Jeff Suppan. Unreal. 3 years $33 million...Sometimes it is so hard to root for this team.

[PrinceEatMeat]

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[I Heart Brewers]

Doug, have you learned nothing from Randy Wolf/Jeff Suppan experiments? Starts okay and ends in train wreck.