2013 Brewers Pitching Staff

[brosto1]

I don't really trust a lot of the free agent options enough to warrant spending the money they will receive. I like Sanchez the most, and if he actually settles for a 5/75-80 deal I think it would be a good signing, but Sanchez signing with the Brewers is highly unlikely. Other than Sanchez, I would just go with what they have right now. The only other way I would want to sign any of the others is if it is on a one year deal.

 

I would prefer to see the season begin with a rotation of:

Gallardo

Estrada

Rogers

Fiers

Peralta

 

Use Narveson as a long man or loogy. Sign a vet to a minor league deal with an opt-out clause if not called up by the end of May, by that time the team would know more about what they have with Nelson, Jungmann, Hellweg, Pena, and Thornburg(although I would just use him as a reliever from the beginning of the season).

[gobrew23]

Use Narveson as a long man or loogy. Sign a vet to a minor league deal with an opt-out clause if not called up by the end of May, by that time the team would know more about what they have with Nelson, Jungmann, Hellweg, Pena, and Thornburg(although I would just use him as a reliever from the beginning of the season).

Thornburg got all messed up when they moved him to the pen last year. I very highly doubt the Brewers will use him in that role to start the season.

[PrinceFielderx1]

If Wily Peralta isn't in the starting rotation to begin next season, Then I'm going to be extremely disappointed.

[brosto1]

I just don't think Thornburg is likely to remain in the rotation short or long term. I think he would have a lot of value as a two inning guy in the pen, much like how the Giants used Lincecum in the fall. With the depth that the Brewers have in starting pitching prospects I think it makes sense to use him now in the pen. If he excels like I believe he would that kind of reliever provides a lot of value.

[Roderick]

Use Narveson as a long man or loogy. Sign a vet to a minor league deal with an opt-out clause if not called up by the end of May, by that time the team would know more about what they have with Nelson, Jungmann, Hellweg, Pena, and Thornburg(although I would just use him as a reliever from the beginning of the season).

Thornburg got all messed up when they moved him to the pen last year. I very highly doubt the Brewers will use him in that role to start the season.

Plus assuming Thornburg isn't in the starting rotation out of spring ball, he would probably be more ready than anyone else in the minors, so they should keep him stretched out to replace the inevitable injury or Hendricksonitis.

[SRB]

We just might be going with a young rotation this year... Boston is serious talks with Dempster.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/red-sox-in-serious-talks-with-ryan-dempster.html

That's just going to make Melvin overpay for Kyle Lohse (at which point I stop rooting for baseball and become a hermit)

[Oxy]

We just might be going with a young rotation this year... Boston is serious talks with Dempster.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/red-sox-in-serious-talks-with-ryan-dempster.html

 

Outside of Dempster, Jackson, and maybe Sanchez I don't think there are any FAs out there who would even be an improvement over the young arms for actual on field production. When you factor in paying them 10 to 20 times more than a pre-arby player it becomes ridiculous to try to sign somebody else. We have 6-10 starters to try out this year. If a couple of them work out early and we have a good chance at making a playoff run come July perhaps we trade for a veteran arm. If a couple of them fall on their face early, then we just cycle in the other arms to see what we have for the future.

[DR28]

We just might be going with a young rotation this year... Boston is serious talks with Dempster.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/red-sox-in-serious-talks-with-ryan-dempster.html

That's just going to make Melvin overpay for Kyle Lohse (at which point I stop rooting for baseball and become a hermit)

 

That won't happen because some team is gonna give him a 3-4 yr deal.

[pogokat]

apparently, Marcum has said he's open to returning

[paul253]

Marcum wouldn't be bad on a one year deal but I'm sure KC will offer him at least 2 years.

[Ennder]

Marcum is a great fit if it is for 1 year or 2 years at a low rate + incentives.

[DR28]

There is an Brewers article on JSOnline.com about Marcum... Doug said he's not talking with him and once Dempster signs in Boston, he doesn't plan on pursuing any other FA SPs.

 

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/183356521.html

[yoshii8]

I'd like to see the Brewers pursue Tom Gorzelanny and Tim Stauffer, both have had success as a reliever and proven capable as a starter. I think both could play big roles on this team.

 

I'm ok w/ them not giving big money to any free agent pitchers this season, especially w/ the overpaying that's been happening.. I really like our starter options in Gallardo, Estrada, Fiers, Peralta, Rogers, Narveson, Thornburg and Burgos.

[PrinceEatMeat]

If we're going with a rotation of all young guys, we need to aggressively start shopping Hart and possibly others as well. Because we'll have no chance to compete.

[DR28]

If we're going with a rotation of all young guys, we need to aggressively start shopping Hart and possibly others as well. Because we'll have no chance to compete.

 

Exactly!! I can't believe Doug is content on going with 3 young Starters... Such a shame... Good luck winning 70 games this year!

[thebruce44]

If we're going with a rotation of all young guys, we need to aggressively start shopping Hart and possibly others as well. Because we'll have no chance to compete.

 

Except of course for last year, when we eventually went with a rotation of all young guys and competed.

[PrinceEatMeat]

If we're going with a rotation of all young guys, we need to aggressively start shopping Hart and possibly others as well. Because we'll have no chance to compete.

 

Except of course for last year, when we eventually went with a rotation of all young guys and competed.

 

Last time I checked that wasn't for a full season. And we also had Marcum for part of that run. I'm talking about a full 6 months with a young rotation. It's highly unlikely. Not impossible, but not likely. You can bring up the A's from last year, but they also had a bullpen that performed. Right now our bullpen is looking weak too. That's also just one example. I'm sure they can all pitch to the level of a solid 4 or 5 starter, but I'm skeptical about them all holding up for a full season and pitching well enough to keep us competitive. The Cardinals and Reds are both better right now within the division alone.

[wisniewski]

Last time I checked that wasn't for a full season. And we also had Marcum for part of that run. I'm talking about a full 6 months with a young rotation. It's highly unlikely. Not impossible, but not likely. You can bring up the A's from last year, but they also had a bullpen that performed. Right now our bullpen is looking weak too. That's also just one example. I'm sure they can all pitch to the level of a solid 4 or 5 starter, but I'm skeptical about them all holding up for a full season and pitching well enough to keep us competitive. The Cardinals and Reds are both better right now within the division alone.

 

I totally agree with this. I'm skeptical that the plan to go with such an inexperienced staff - starters and pen - is going to turn out very well.

 

EDIT: And if that is indeed the plan, then I also agree with the sentiment that they should start blowing out pieces in exchange for prospects.

[wisniewski]

And I just posted this in the Dempster thread in the Trade Proposal forum, but it warrants consideration here too...

 

Melvin's comments were that once Dempster signed in BOS, the Brewers were done exploring SP. So...it was Dempster or bust the whole time? That's an awful FA plan.

[RobDeer 45]

I'm all for a young staff but I agree, I'm hesitant to go in this young for fear of overworking guys. Selfishly, I'd rather watch our young guys, with potential, go out and throw rather than some old crusty vet with no upside...but sometimes you need that guy as an inning eater.

[TURBO]

And I just posted this in the Dempster thread in the Trade Proposal forum, but it warrants consideration here too...

 

Melvin's comments were that once Dempster signed in BOS, the Brewers were done exploring SP. So...it was Dempster or bust the whole time? That's an awful FA plan.

 

Which actually means, he has another SP in mind...

[TooLiveBrew]

And I just posted this in the Dempster thread in the Trade Proposal forum, but it warrants consideration here too...

 

Melvin's comments were that once Dempster signed in BOS, the Brewers were done exploring SP. So...it was Dempster or bust the whole time? That's an awful FA plan.

 

Which actually means, he has another SP in mind...

 

[Melvin] said there was "some intrigue" to Edwin Jackson and he had talked with his agent, Greg Genske, but it sounded like that went nowhere.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/183356521.html

 

Naively getting my hopes up.

[DR28]

And I just posted this in the Dempster thread in the Trade Proposal forum, but it warrants consideration here too...

 

Melvin's comments were that once Dempster signed in BOS, the Brewers were done exploring SP. So...it was Dempster or bust the whole time? That's an awful FA plan.

 

Which actually means, he has another SP in mind...

 

[Melvin] said there was "some intrigue" to Edwin Jackson and he had talked with his agent, Greg Genske, but it sounded like that went nowhere.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/183356521.html

 

Naively getting my hopes up.

 

Don't count on it... Were gonna enter 2013 with the young Rotation.

[TooLiveBrew]

Yeah, because Melvin always publicly tips his hand

[SRB]

Making the playoffs on the backs of such a young rotation is just going to be all the more fun. Brewers are always the underdogs anyways, can't wait for Fiers v. Greinke in the NLCS!!!