2012-2013 College Basketball thread

[homer]

Honestly, it looked like Bruiser tried to foul Hardaway at the end of regulation as he got screened, and he just completely whiffed hitting his arms or the ball.

 

Although I'm not sure he was trying to foul. I saw an interview where he said he was going for the ball. And Bo seemed really confused in the post game interview when Dakich confronted him about not fouling. Seemed like he changed his tune in the post game same way he did last year when he talked about not having Berggren in there against Syracuse at the end of the game. Makes me wonder if Bo is getting old and forgetful.

[TooLiveBrew]

Although I agree with him about fouling in that situation, Dakich has to be the worst college hoops analyst. I probably had the game muted almost as much as I had the sound on. He nearly ruined that game for me.

[DHonks]

the worst analyst? Come on, Walton is still allowed infront of a microphone. I'm still waiting for the tv option that selectively only mutes Chris Collinsworth, Joe Buck, Bill Walton, and Phil Simms, while letting us hear their broadcast partners

[TooLiveBrew]

the worst analyst? Come on, Walton is still allowed infront of a microphone. I'm still waiting for the tv option that selectively only mutes Chris Collinsworth, Joe Buck, Bill Walton, and Phil Simms, while letting us hear their broadcast partners

"worst college hoops analyst"

[DHonks]

yeah, Walton does college hoops. He's absolutely horrible.

[bani1717]

Bo made it sound like Bruesewitz was trying to foul, but in any case you can't fault the Badgers' D there at the end of regulation. Hardaway made a very difficult fall-away three with Bruesewitz's hand in his face. It also sounded like Michigan was trying to foul us on the ensuing inbounds but just couldn't get it done.

 

Looking at OT, I also question the decision making in putting in Evans (though there was some confusion about whether or not we were shooting on that foul or the next one... inexcusable either way IMO though). We should have fouled with three to give at the end of OT, but it worked out. In any case, great win. That's now two teams the Badgers have beaten this year who have been ranked #1 at some point this season.

[TooLiveBrew]

yeah, Walton does college hoops. He's absolutely horrible.

Huh. For some reason I thought he was NBA-only. And I agree that Walton sucks, but honestly Dakich has grown to be my most-hated.

[sdcheezhd]

Evans in at the end was clearly a screwup - you can see the team lining up to shoot the 1&1 so they were just confused. I have to think if Bo knew it was #6 and not 7 he would have subbed Evans out. Not giving the fouls late was fine - Hardaway was way out and guarded - who says they don't set up a better look on an inbounds play. Like he said to Dakich they weren't attacking.

[fondybrewfan]

UW is up to about a 5-6 seed right now. Amazingly they have the potential to be a Top 4 when it is all said and done.

 

Definitely not something I ever would have guessed after they couldn't beat anybody good in the non conference schedule. That Virginia loss is still going to bite them come seeding time.

 

If UW somehow can win in Minnesota and beat OSU at home this week; then there title chances suddenly look really good on paper. 4 out of there last 5 are against really weak teams; the schedules for MSU, Michigan, and Indiana are a lot tougher. MSU and Michigan still have to play each other twice; Indiana still has games at MSU, Michigan, and Minnesota.

[homer]

Evans in at the end was clearly a screwup - you can see the team lining up to shoot the 1&1 so they were just confused. I have to think if Bo knew it was #6 and not 7 he would have subbed Evans out. Not giving the fouls late was fine - Hardaway was way out and guarded - who says they don't set up a better look on an inbounds play. Like he said to Dakich they weren't attacking.

 

Right but then in the post-game he pretended like he wasn't even trying to get Dekker in there (he was and the refs wouldn't let him in because it wasn't a shooting foul). He said he didn't want to mess with Evans' head or something. Again, it's obvious he was lying....maybe to build up Evans or whatever.

[sdcheezhd]

[Right but then in the post-game he pretended like he wasn't even trying to get Dekker in there (he was and the refs wouldn't let him in because it wasn't a shooting foul).

 

It doesn't have to be a shooting foul - after the foul the ball is dead and the clock is stopped and that's all you need (except after a made basket in the last minute). So he must be right that he wasn't trying to get Dekker in there but I agree it wasn't because of not messing with Ryan's head etc.; I think he thought Berggren would be shooting.

[bani1717]

Dekker had just come out of the game when Evans went in (following the 6th foul), so by rule he could not re-enter until after the clock started after the inbounds. Anyone on the bench except Dekker could've replaced Evans in that exchange, but Dekker could not since he had just left the game.

 

There's a follow-up story here:

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/190720831.html

[brwrsfan]

So Dekker wasn't eligible to come back in...that's fine. But wouldn't ANYONE on the bench have been better? How about Kaminsky? Pretty much anyone....or have Evans inbound the ball if you want him on the court. Just makes no sense. But it didn't matter.

 

Be nice to sweep MN tonight, as they've been sliding lately. I'm not sure how well we matchup with their size, but we'll see. It's been long enough that they shouldn't have a letdown from Saturday. The schedule is getting easier at this point...if they could split the next two games, they could really have a chance at the Big Ten. Might not quite win it, but they could easily be top 4 again, which I think many found nearly impossible with this team. Would also ensure a top 6 seed come the tournament - most pundits have them as a 4-5 right now as it is.

 

Even if they lose tonight, to OSU and to MSU and win the rest of the games (they'll be favored in all of those), they'd wind up at 12-6 in the best conference in college basketball.

[TooLiveBrew]

UWBadgers.com has a nice little feature on the '13 recruiting class, including highlight videos for Vitto Brown, Riley Dearing, & Bronson Koenig.

 

Link

[brwrsfan]

Hard not to watch those videos and not get excited. Obviously those are designed to make them look good, but still. Brown looks to be very athletic, though it didn't show much other than layups and dunks. Herring is a big, big guard with a very pure and smooth shooting motion. And Koening, well we all knew he could pass and has been said to have amazing court vision. That sure showed that. Throw Dekker into that mix and they might be on to something. Based on the amount of seniors being lost, there certainly will be minutes next year, we'll see if any of these guys can get consistent playing time.

[trwi7]

[fondybrewfan]

You would think that Bo would give Marshall a shot towards the end of the game considering how awful Jackson was playing. Jackson is shooting far below 40% for the year and his Assist to Turnover ratio sucks. This team desperately needs Gasser back next year.

 

Oh and the seniors continue to suck up the joint. The team is probably still over achieving though; they have mediocre PG at best and can't make FT and yet they are still near the Top of the B10.

[brwrsfan]

Jackson played absolutely terrible. Despite that, this was a game they basically had won. I believe zero points in the last six minutes. Any points at all it's probably a win. Bruiser gets the charge with 22 seconds left, then up two, runs the baseline and turns it over - inexcusable, especially from a senior. This makes up for the MI game I guess, because they had this one more or less won and blew it.

 

You just simply can't win games when you just stop scoring for 9 minutes, 5 minutes, 6 minutes, etc. And they do it every game seemingly. Oh, and Evans simply should never be on the floor in the last 10 min of a close game. He simply can't make a FT to save his life. Not only that...in his last 8 games, Evans is a combined 26-87 from the floor (29.8%). He's also taken MORE shots than every other player during that stretch. The guy is shooting 29% and is taking the most shots on the team. Really? His defense is fine, so is is rebounding, but his offense is just killing the Badgers. Both from the line and from the floor.

[TooLiveBrew]

This one came down to FT shooting & a startling instance of poor clock/time management by Bo, imo. Really disappointing loss -- like brwrsfan said, they simply shouldn't have been able to find a way to lose this game. Even with all the missed good looks (esp. from 3), they were in a position to win.

 

Oh, and to trwi7's excellent screengrab... it's absolutely true. Defensively, I think Evans is a plus. But not to the extent that he's a better net impact than Dekker at this point. Ryan's insistance on Evans over Dekker was a big contributing factor to this loss, and it will continue to hold the team back imo going forward. What the team lacks is a knockout scorer, and Dekker is clearly that guy imo, even if he's still 'in the making'... limiting his minutes only hampers his development & weakens the team overall.

[RobDeer 45]

Absolutely gave that one away last night to MN. Not very happy about that.

[brwrsfan]

Nice win for Marquette yesterday. If they shoot the ball from the outside that well come the tournament, they are going to be exceptionally hard to beat. They're a team that could be trouble regardless, the way they play and the athletes they have will make them a tough opponent to prepare for in a short amount of time. I've really been stunned at just how much better Vander Blue has gotten.

 

Hopefully WI can do the same thing today...take care of a ranked team at home. They don't matchup all that well with Ohio St unfortunately, but they are amazingly 4 point favorites. Hopefully they can win so I can forget about the MN debacle.

[TooLiveBrew]

Badgers have probably played about as well as they're capable of so far. Hope they can sustain this margin until halftime, and keep OSU from going on any major run in the second half.

[pitchleague]

wow. Start to finish win for Bucky over the Buckeyes. And the only 5-, 6-, or 7-minute stretch without a field goal belonged to the opposition for once.

 

Nice win!

[TooLiveBrew]

It's always fun to put the hurt on OSU like that. What a great win.

[trwi7]

wow. Start to finish win for Bucky over the Buckeyes. And the only 5-, 6-, or 7-minute stretch without a field goal belonged to the opposition for once.

 

Nice win!

 

Technically not start to finish since Ohio State led 2-0.