Fake Brewer Fans

[splitterpfj]

Hey now, DJN, there's no need to start dropping Z-bombs. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[mothershipconnection]

The only ones I have a huge problem with are the dorks who now wear a bunch of Brewers apparel and will talk about how they're die-hard fans but then you talk about players from the 90's and early 00's and they're clueless. Don't tall me you're a huge lifetime fan when you don't remember Jeff D'Amico. Just say you've finally gotten around to appreciating the Crew and I'll congratulate you and tell you it's great that you've finally come to your senses.

 

When I was an undergrad, I was pretty much "the guy in the Brewers hat" at most places I went to in Eau Claire. People at bars always made comments about it. Now, it'd be more descriptive to say "the guy who isn't wearing a Brewers hat". There's nothing wrong with that, other than when those people claim to not be recent converts.

[1992casey]

As it's 'directly' circumventing the cuss filter, there's an issue with "s--t", too. The only circumventing Brewerfan allows is when a word contains "apple.t" (as in "Apple.ton); that's an ezBoard bug.

 

Let me suggest re-reading the Three Strikes sticky at the top of this forum.

 

I do agree that Zambrano is not a nice word.

[1992casey]

mothership, I think I actually do better with 80s players than 90s players. We had quite a crowd coming through during the 90s.

 

I remember D'Amico for more than just his injuries and subsequent quest for the ERA title. On day of the final game of the 1999 season, he single-handedly moved a line of autograph seekers out of the rain?something the ushers should have done in the first place.

[Crewin06]

I don't mind anyone that doesn't know who the ex-brewers are.

 

Who cares.

 

But like "And That" said, I hate the "you suck" and the booing of our own players. Especially the players that have done so much for us in the past.

 

It's just a classless act.

 

I can kind of understand the booing of Carlos Lee but even that frustrates me quite a bit.

 

All I know is quite a few of my relatives that never really cared about the brewers before are now watching alot of games. That is good for the Brewers.

 

I could care less if they don't know who Gorman Thomas is.

[PeaveyFury]

I don't mind anyone that doesn't know who the ex-brewers are.

 

I generally agree, as long as they're not claiming/championing themselves to be 'life-long Brewer fans,' as mentioned earlier. If you're a long time Brewer fan and you have no clue who Ted Higuera or Pat Listach or Gorman Thomas is, that's crap.

 

The problem I have are the people who have no clue who the current Brewers are, while decked out in their Brewer regalia. As someone else mentioned in another thread, the people who wonder if Victor Santos is still on the team, and wonder since when has Richie Sexson not played in Milwaukee.

[Crewin06]

PeaveyFury

 

I say who cares about any of that stuff. They paid for the shirt and the merchandise. At least there is interest. Hopefully they are also buying tickets and going to games.

 

I guess that I have not come accross these people that much. Most people that I talk to with Brewers Merchandise on, know quite a bit about the team. If they don't. I guess their wouldn't be that long of a conversation.

 

As long as they are not being obnoxious at games, I have no beef with them.

[reillymcshane]

I don't care if they don't know who Gorman or anyone is. They could have moved to Milwaukee 10 years ago and not have heard about him. Not a big deal.

 

The key is to make them fans now - and hopefully, in 20 years, they'll still be fans.

[uecker9]

I'm reminded of those lifelong Bulls fans of the 90's who couldn't stand that guy who coaches the Jazz. Where'd they go?

[zachjack13]

I didn't know much of the '82 team because I wasn't born yet and don't know many Brewers from '89 to the turn of the century either because I didn't watch the Brewers or my lousy memory skills have gotten me. I do know however, that fans of all types know something about their team. Even bringing up people like Jeff D' Amico or Victor Santos means that they pay attention a little bit. As for the boo birds, I did that when Aquino gave up the GS to Biggio, so I see what fans do when it comes to performance standards, otherwise it is unacceptable.

[JumpinMacFlash]

I didn't know much about the history of the Brewers when I first became a fan. I started following the team when I was about 7 (1993, I've never followed a winning season), but I've been really interested in the Brewers ever since and I've studied up on them to learn the history. If people are naive about the players of the last decade or even some of the people on the current roster, I get over it.

 

My girlfriend used to never like baseball. I got her interested in the Brewers and I'm excited that she can now recognize players only by sight or jersey number.

 

My little sister used to be a Cubs fan from around 1996-2001. She then was kind of disinterested in baseball for whatever reason. Then came her epiphany. Moments of great realization can be sparked by the most random and crazy things. The oddest thing caused my sister to become a Brewers fan. I was watching a game with her in 2002 and I was not a Wes Helms fan at all. Helms was up to bat and my sister was antagonizing me saying, "yeah, he's gonna hit a home run" in a sarcastic voice. In that at-bat, Helms homered. My sister became intrigued with him and started following the Brewers instead of the Cubs. I even went so far as to do away with my life's guideline and actually sought out a Wes Helms autograph at a game in order to keep my sister's interest on the Brewers and away from the Cubs. It's worked very very well and she even will lurk on this sight and has some knowledge of the minor leagues. I'm so proud.

 

Out of naivety comes understanding.

[Nearsighted Views]

This whole conversation is kind of funny to me and reading the posts, I don't know where I fit in. I followed them closely growing up (mid 80's through mid 90's).

 

I moved out of state in the mid 90's and totally lost touch, partially because of the strike. I moved back to Milwaukee in 2000 and started going to a few games. Every year, the number of games I went to increased.

 

I remember D'Amico. I remember thinking Kolb was THE MAN. I love Junior Spivey and I remember the first at bat of Corey Hart (a long foul ball to left, right?)

 

Anyways, I was aggrivated at first because I was used to sitting where I wanted when I wanted and now I'm crowded out by people who love "Cecil Fielder" But butts in the seats are good. Not everyone can be a die hard.

[tommyboy42609]

When I was an undergrad, I was pretty much "the guy in the Brewers hat" at most places I went to in Eau Claire. People at bars always made comments about it. Now, it'd be more descriptive to say "the guy who isn't wearing a Brewers hat". There's nothing wrong with that, other than when those people claim to not be recent converts.

 

I've been pretty much the same guy as you, living in twins territory i get alot of **** and ive gotten into ALOT of arguments with twins fans over the last 1-2 years here (only been in college 2 years) but everytime i've defended the brewers til' no end like over the winter i said just wait til next year (typical cubs line i know) but ever since we've been doing good i really havent gotten into any arguments ever since, people actually respect the brewers now.

[Thurston Fluff]

I started following the Brewers in 82 so guess I must have started out as a bandwagoner. I remember asking a lot of stupid questions from the guy who I worked next to who was an avid fan. He was great. Gave me little stories about old Brewers and managers ect. He never got tired of talking Brewers or answering my stupid questions or even acting like he was somehow more of a fan than I was because I was new to it. He was just happy to talk Brewers. I mention this because now any time I meet someone who is a casual fan I try to be informative so they might become Brewer addicts like myself. In a way it's my tribute to the man who got me hooked.

[1992casey]

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i get alot of ****

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Woah, tommy? there are two posts right in this thread about cuss filter circumvention. It would have paid to read through all the messages before posting.

[FVBrewerFan]

I really don't see how this is any different than the masses of people who become "fans" of any team that becomes popular. The same thing happened with the Packers in the mid 90s. Ditto for the Indians back when they turned it around.

 

Yes, it can get frustrating. Just let them buy tickets and merchandise and don't look back.

[T B0NE 10]

I'm 16 and the first year I was a real fan was 2001. I know alot of history of the Brewers too. I think I proved myself a Brewer fan sticking through the 2002 season.

[jazzytrav]

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I really don't see how this is any different than the masses of people who become "fans" of any team that becomes popular. The same thing happened with the Packers in the mid 90s.

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And we unfortunately saw the result of all those fans that jumped on the Packers bandwagon in the mid-90's. The Packers have a 4-12 season, and suddenly they don't want to associate themselves with the Packers and especially not the "old man" Brett Favre. Fortunately for the Packers, they're sold out until the year 7,000 A.D. so it's not like they have to worry about getting fans in the stands.

 

I guess I just have a problem with fans like this who jump in and throw their weight around in sports discussions. They want results NOW. If Favre throws an interception, dump him. If Cappy gives up a home run, dump him. When a fan's perception is based solely on winning, they don't understand the concept of a single loss. If a fan suffers through the losing seasons and has patience and continues to support the team no matter what, they better understand the value of each win and realize that each loss is not the end of the world.

[MBHA]

I was at the game on Sunday, and a guy 2 rows behind me was berating Yost for putting in such a feable lineup on a Sunday when there were 42,000 in the stands. He went on and on about it, noting that he knows there are big crowds on weekends so why is Hardy sitting. You know I had never heard of that rule whereby the lineup strength is directly related to the anticipated attendance. I also learned that Gross should be in AAA. Graffanino (who won the game the night before) is pathetic, Counsell is washed up, Suppan is a bust, and Damian Miller should be playing every day by virtue of the fact he was hitting over .300.

 

He is either a fake fan or one who judges baseball teams with a football outlook.

[T B0NE 10]

nothing disgusts me more than a fellow packer fan cutting down favre

[BrewCrewRising]

What gets me the most about the bandwagon poser fans is that they are probably the ones doing most of the booing. Adam McCalvey was asked about this in his latest mailbag article, and I was appaled that Milwaukee could be mentioned in the same breath with Philadelphia and Chicago.

 

That's what upsets me the most. No matter what happens to our players in the future, if/when they leave Milwaukee, I want them to think, "Man, those were great years in Milwaukee." But I'm naive and corny. Sue me.

[bennettbrewer]

guy that lived down the hall from me freshman year was a "die-hard" cubs fan...i saw him a few weeks ago wearing a retro brewers hat and a "F*** Em' Bernie" shirt...i threw up a little in my mouth

[wisconsinfan47]

I had one of the bandwagon geniuses behind me at the game today. After Turnbow entered in the 8th, he "guaranteed" a walk followed by a two-run homer. When the walk happened, he made sure to rail on about how Turnbow stunk, has no control, and should've been traded.

 

I wanted to turn around and point out to this clown the nearly 3:1 K/BB ratio and sub-3.50 ERA D-Bow has, but instead I just made sure to give him an extra long standing O after he retired the side with 2 K's.

[FVBrewerFan]

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He is either a fake fan or one who judges baseball teams with a football outlook.

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I don't think these people are "fake" fans. They are just misinformed fans. Some of this comes from talk radio, where many of the hosts are almost as clueless as the general Brewers fan. That's why so many fans to this day think Yost is insane for not starting TGJ as the lead -off man every day.

 

But you can cut it however you like. The bottom line is there wouldn't ne MLB in Milwaukee without a ton of casual fans. Ever been to a Monday night game in the middle of April? Every game would be like that without casual fans.