Impressions of Roenicke 2012

[dlk9s]

Love the squeeze play. Love it. Obviously, like has been said above, there are several factors that must be considered before using it, but generally, as long as the batter doesn't miss or pop it up, it will work. Well, that is unless the other team is TOTALLY expecting it, like what happened last season.

[thebruce44]

Maybe by some fans who only care about results, but I think this is a false generalization for this board.

Are you talking about the fans behind me on Sunday? They were loudly wondering why "worthless stats" like OBP, OPS, and WHIP were on the scoreboard.

 

Yes, and I doubt they post here, but you never know.

[RobDeer 45]

What's OBP? (in blue)

[xisxisxis]

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[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

My Roenicke impression- He's still a stubborn ass.

 

There's no excuse for not walking Uggla in the 8th. None. If he's on first, two runs score anyway on a single. Why play the infield in and open up more gaps? It's just his idiotic reluctance to intentionally walk anyone, let alone their 5 hitter. Moron.

[Oldcity]

I don't disagree, but K-Rod was all over the place, so he was probably worried about walking in a run.

 

I was more annoyed with bunting Kottaras.

[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

I don't disagree, but K-Rod was all over the place, so he was probably worried about walking in a run.

 

I was more annoyed with bunting Kottaras.

 

Yeah, wasn't crazy about that either. Or the delayed steal with Randy Wolf. Would love to know if that was called, or if it was Randy's decision.

[TooLiveBrew]

No, no, no way was that a called steal with Wolf. Roenicke is many things & you might disagree with him often, but he's nowhere close to being a "moron"

[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

No, no, no way was that a called steal with Wolf. Roenicke is many things & you might disagree with him often, but he's nowhere close to being a "moron"

 

You're right, he's not a moron. I had to use that one because a lot of the other words I'd use right now would get me banned.

 

Re: the Wolf steal, I certainly hope you're right.

[TooLiveBrew]

Hah -- fair play on the use of "moron", and I appreciate the explanation

[Hammer]

I'm hoping that RRR kicks Doug Melvin's dog or something on the next homestand...maybe that, instead of his terrible managing, will get him fired.

[RWeeksFan23]

Not walking Uggla was pretty dumb. You could make a case for pitching to him, but me personally, i'd put him on and make Diaz beat me, and hope for a double play.

[3and2Fastball]

Not walking Uggla was pretty dumb. You could make a case for pitching to him, but me personally, i'd put him on and make Diaz beat me, and hope for a double play.

 

Thousands of Little League managers would be able to figure that stategy out. I like Roenicke, but stuff like that just perplexes me. My wife is not a sports genius, and even she was saying "why didn't they walk him?"

[RWeeksFan23]

Idk, I don't like the guy at all. And why was Loe pitching in the 7th, when 3/4 batters he faced were lefties? I guess there's only so many options since we don't have a lefty specialist in the pen, and I know they didn't score that inning so it didn't matter, but still. I just can't stand Roenicke one bit.

[TooLiveBrew]

I like that he doesn't issue IBBs. Uggla's hit was weak, & lucky to find a hole. The problem tonight was Wolf getting tagged for six runs in one inning, not RRR pitching or not pitching to Uggla.

[dlk9s]

Not walking Uggla was pretty dumb. You could make a case for pitching to him, but me personally, i'd put him on and make Diaz beat me, and hope for a double play.

 

Thousands of Little League managers would be able to figure that stategy out. I like Roenicke, but stuff like that just perplexes me. My wife is not a sports genius, and even she was saying "why didn't they walk him?"

 

I know I sure wouldn't want the bases loaded with K-Rod on the mound. I was happy taking a chance with Uggla, who is not known as the most disciplined of hitters and has the tendency to strikeout, especially since it was righty-on-righty.

 

I thought RR did a good job last night. Yeah Loe against lefties, whatever. It's not like there were better options.

[fondybrewfan]

RR just doesn't like walking people; it is just not part of his managing ideals. I can't fault him for pitching to Uggla because he is sticking with what he believes in and Krod is a hell of a lot better at striking people out than he is getting a ground ball. I probably would have walked him; but RR has shown over and over again that he doesn't like doing that. It is what it is

 

Obviously it didn't work out the best; but for the 2nd consecutive day a broken bat single turned out to be real important. Krod made a good pitch.

[GormanHarvey]

Yeah I can't really fault him. It was a tough spot. KRod destroyed Uggla's bat...unfortunately his weak groundball snuck its way through the drawn in infield.

[logan82]

Yeah I can't really fault him. It was a tough spot. KRod destroyed Uggla's bat...unfortunately his weak groundball snuck its way through the drawn in infield.

I wouldn't fault him for not using a IBB. I would however fault him for drawing the infield in.

[jason21nl]

If you're OK with him not walking the guy, then you should be OK with the infield in because they have to cut down the runner at the plate. Walking the guy and setting up the double play is the correct move IMO. Managers need to be able to adjust to game situations. If a IBB is called for, then our manager needs to do it.

[logan82]

If you're OK with him not walking the guy, then you should be OK with the infield in because they have to cut down the runner at the plate. Walking the guy and setting up the double play is the correct move IMO.

Not really. I hate the infield playing in in almost every situation. Even with the infield in you have to pray the ball is hit right to a guy and he makes a good throw and the catcher doesn't get plowed over and drop the ball. Way to many things have to go right to cut down that run at the plate while opening up yourself to multiple runs if they don't.

[Baldkin]

It was the bottom of the 8th with the best closer in the league last year warming up.

If they score, it's 98% chance of it being ball game. You've got to try to cut the run down at the plate there.

[jason21nl]

Typically I agree, but being so late in the game I think you either walk the guy or draw in the infield and do what you can to cut down that run. I walk the guy and try to get a ground ball or a K. If it was earlier in the game, I concede the run and play normal depth and pitch to the batter.

[PrinceEatMeat]

I can't say I have any issues with how Roenicke played that. You can't load the bases with K-Rod on the mound, especially with how he was looking last night. And it did turn out that he walked the next batter. I agree with the infield being in there, because as people said before we faced the prospect of going against Kimbrel with a deficit and that usually equals a loss. Roenicke clearly didn't want any runs in there. However, not sure they had to be all the way in. Could've played medium depth and possibly still been able to cut down the run at the plate. Gonzalez and Weeks both have strong arms. I can't really complain with how he played it though. There's an argument for both sides, but it's hard to criticize his decision.

[Ennder]

I'm not a big fan of IBB Uggla either. You have a guy who strikes out a ton and generally hits for low average against a power pitcher with control problems. Seems like a bad time to IBB a guy.