2012-06-19 Blue Jays (Chavez) at Brewers (Thornburg), 7:10 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 10-9]]

[AZBrewCrew]

I want to make a joke involving Axford and meconium...

 

epic

[Fear The Chorizo]

so why was there so much handwringing again to pull Thornburg after 5IP?? To get to this bullpen?

 

just goes to show that bullpens are the toughest thing to predict year over year. Last year it was a huge strength, this year it's reason #1 why they won't be playoff contenders.

[topper09er]

I want to make a joke involving Axford and meconium...

 

Well I just learned a new fun word, thanks! The pictures on the first page of google are excellent as well

[ninja33]

I want to make a joke involving Axford and meconium...

 

heheheh, awesome.

[razzzorsharp]

Let's get Ax an underdserved win, much like Loe's last night.

[Eye Black]

So glad they didn't give Ax an extension.

 

Yep, extensions to closers is never a good idea. Trade them to people who overvalue closers

 

I don't think any AL teams will be calling.

[rluzinski]

Honestly, I would give K-Rod an opportunity to close. Ax has been that awful.

Wouldn't really matter much what order they pitch in.

[topper09er]

Rickie will 3TO this AB, Ill take a HR but a K would give him the league lead back from Hart

[adambr2]

http://media.jrn.com/images/185*139/closers040312.jpg

 

My ass....

[The stache]

To borrow from Gene Kranz in Apollo 13:

 

"Let's look at this thing from a... um, from a standpoint of status. What do we got on the steam that's good?

[brewmann04]

I agree that the brewers fall out of the Race and Mark realizes this is not their year and time to add some pieces for Pending FA

[dlk9s]

http://media.jrn.com/images/185*139/closers040312.jpg

 

My ass....

It all depends on one's perspective.

[AZBrewCrew]

Rickie will 3TO this AB, Ill take a HR but a K would give him the league lead back from Hart

 

Looks like hes got the lead back

[The stache]

Rickie will 3TO this AB, Ill take a HR but a K would give him the league lead back from Hart

 

Looks like hes got the lead back

 

Good to see the Brewers are #1 in something.

[rluzinski]

Hah! Ransom is our power option off the bench. Right.

[The stache]

Ransom pinch hitting? Why not Green? Seriously?

[AZBrewCrew]

its your time to shine Taylor

[chickinbrickin]

Axford's issue is he can't throw that curve for a strike. When he was dominate he could drop the curve in for a stike at anytime; so that fastball blew hitters away. Now they sit fastball because that is all he can get over. He simply lost the feel for the curve.

 

Green walkoff would be awesome!

[brewmann04]

the Benck and the Pen has doomed this team and weeks batting 167 has not helped.Lets sell and retool for 2013

[topper09er]

Closers are usually bad at holding runners, Ransom should probably look to steal now its 1-2, Im not holding out for a Green HR

[danzig6767]

It's amazing how excruciating it is to follow a team with a dreadful bullpen.

 

Yea, starting pitching is more important, but teams with a bad bullpen rarely ever have a chance at making the playoffs.

[TURBO]

selling will not make us competitive in 2013.

[dacbrewers]

I'll second that. Let K-rod pitch 8th and 9th. If a guy's pitching good....leave him in.

[TheCrew07]

Overall, I'm happy with what we saw from Thornburg tonight. Get him up to AAA, and let him start seeing some competition comparable to MLB talent.

Ummmm AAA talent is normally less than what you would see at AA. AAA is full of AAAA players or veteran MLB players (Suppan, Hall, etc type of players). I would say at AAA it is step down talent wise and there is more MLB talent in AA. I would rather see Thornburg stay in AA where the competition is actually higher than that of what it would be in AAA.

 

False. Top pitching prospects don't spend much time in AAA, that much is true. However it's a decent enough jump for pitchers, AAA is step definitely a step up. It's just more valuable for pitchers than hitters... hitters can get used to facing crafty junkballers, pitchers will have to face many hitters with MLB experienced who are fairly polished with good approaches at the plate. Just take a look around at all of the top prospects struggling in AAA this season... as more MLB teams stash depth in AAA and now even AA the line-ups pitchers face are becoming less prospect laden and more professional hitter filled by the year.

 

The Brewers AA team started the year with guys like Jay Gibbons playing down there, it's just the way it is now.

[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

Sell baby sell.

 

I can't take much more of these "kick to the groin" losses.