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The Bucks drew the 12th pick in the NBA Draft. Any guys that you are interested in? Here are a few guys I sort of like based loosely on if they will be available.

 

1st Round Pick:

-Dion Waiters - SG - Syracuse

-Jeremy Lamb - SG - UConn

-Tyler Zeller - C - North Carolina

-Terrence Ross - SG/SF - Washington

-Terrence Jones - PF - Kentucky

-Royce White - PF - Iowa St.

 

2nd Round Pick:

-Will Barton - SG - Memphis

-Scott Machado - PG - Iona

-Jae Crowder - SF - Marquette

-DJO - SG - Marquette

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I've completely lost interest in the Bucks, I have no faith in the ownership, the management, the coaching staff or the horrible talent they've assembled.

 

I have an ominous feeling the Bucks are going to draft Meyers Leonard or Tyler Zeller, (because they need some size - you know, an Andrew Bogut type) and both of them will be complete stiffs in the NBA. I saw Leonard in person 3 times this past season, and I've never seen someone so disinterested in actually trying on a basketball court.

"I wasted so much time in my life hating Juventus or A.C. Milan that I should have spent hating the Cardinals." ~kalle8

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I agree on Leonard, but I don't think Zeller will be a stiff. I think he's a good rotation guy in the league. I like Perry Jones if used at the 3. I have the ominous feeling that Sullinger drops, and we wind up with Tractor 2.0. Or worse, we trade our pick and a piece to move up and get him. As far as the second round, I like Machado...but could see them staying home again and grabbing one of the Marquette guys after the success with Leuer this year. Let's face it, they need any draw they can get.
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It seems I'm in the same boat as Baldkin. I have refused to spend another dime on the Bucks until Hammond is fired. It's been about 2 years, and I love going to NBA games, so it's not like I'm a casual, fair weather fan.

 

The Bucks had a golden opportunity to tank after Bogut got hurt and they completely blew it. They were right around the 5th worst record when he went down. Potentially adding a top 5 pick plus a healthy Bogut (I know he's a china doll but let me dream) would have been amazing. Or we could have just traded Bogut for a lotto pick this year and had two lotto picks and started to build a young core. Ugh. Between the ownership, front office, and coach I really believe that the Bucks are the most inept professional sports franchise.

 

1st rd guys I like who project to our spot....Lamb, Waiters, Sullinger, Rivers, Ross. HATE....Leonard, Zeller, PJ3

 

2nd rd.... do whatever it takes to get Crowder.

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I don't think Sullinger will flop as badly as Tractor Traylor, but he's a guy I definitely don't want. I think he' soft, whiny and thinks he is great and I don't see any of that becoming NBA success for him.
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I really don't think there is going to be anybody at #12 that could improve the Bucks beyond mediocrity. There isn't anyone out there that is going to get them past the 1st round of the playoffs.

 

That being said I think the priority needs to be SG or SF and of course to keep Ersan.We don't need any more development 4/5s. Udoh, Gooden, Leuer, Sanders, and Ersan are good enough to hold down the 4/5 spots IMO. They need some athletic 2 or 3 that can make a jump shot but also is capable of getting into the lane.

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They need some athletic 2 or 3 that can make a jump shot but also is capable of getting into the lane.

 

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/775498/gyi0062875181.jpg

 

OHREALLY?

 

Sorry, I agree that's what they need. The fact is they traded for Monta to be that guy and that's the exact role he cannot fill.

"I wasted so much time in my life hating Juventus or A.C. Milan that I should have spent hating the Cardinals." ~kalle8

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I'm thinking that Austin Rivers may be the type of 'high ceiling' guy that the Bucks should maybe take a flyer on. He wasn't great at Duke last year, but he may develop into a pure scorer. I have a hunch that he might move up the boards ahead of the Bucks though. I just hope that they don't take yet another 'project big'.
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I don't think Sullinger will flop as badly as Tractor Traylor, but he's a guy I definitely don't want. I think he' soft, whiny and thinks he is great

 

Doesn't that describe about half of the guys on NBA rosters?

 

I miss the days of the old NBA when it wasn't run down the court and jack up 18 foot jumpers with 16 seconds left on the shot clock. When Drew Gooden is starting at center for you that's just sad. He's a good player, but I like my centers to play defense, too.

 

That said, while I'm no avid Bucks fan since I decided to chime in with snark I suppose I should contribute. The Bucks probably could benefit from drafting a big guy, but as has been said there really isn't anyone who would make an immediate impact.

 

I liked what I saw out of Tobias Harris in limited action last year and think he may be able to contribute at the 3. It seems like the Bucks decided they were just going to try and outscore everyone once they traded for Monta, so I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted another shooter type and continued to play small lineups with a bunch of guys who can shoot.

"When a piano falls on Yadier Molina get back to me, four letter." - Me, upon reading a ESPN update referencing the 'injury-plagued Cardinals'
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Agreed on Meyers Leonard. I did not care for what I saw the handful of times I watched him last season. He always seemed fatigued to me too. I like Tyler Zeller more.

 

Concerning Austin Rivers, he's clearly very talented. I'm probably just a little biased against him because of the times that I watched him, I just wasn't impressed - poor shot selection, forcing the action, didn't seem to be very interested in playing off of his teammates and distributing the ball. I also question his scoring ability inside the 3 point line - he seemed a little wild and has a fairly low 2pt FG% and FT%. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean he will be a bad NBA player, but I just didn't like what I saw out of him at Duke. He was just a Freshman though...

 

The more I think of it, the more I lean towards Dion Waiters and Jeremy Lamb. Both could very easily be gone before the Bucks pick though...

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zeller scares the living heck out of me. he reminds of when the bucks took pryzbilla. who has gone on to have a decent NBA career but didn't do much in Milwaukee or really haven't lived up to the hype of a player taken as high as he was.

 

i don't know if sullinger would be around i have seem him taken in the 8th range in some mocks and 14th in others. if he is there i'd take him.

the same thing with henson from NC.

 

A player i love is Lillard, but i don't know if he will be around at 12. he could replace BJ in 2013-14. I also like Lamb, but feel the bucks need to take a PG or big man.

 

in the 2nd round, i am biased but love the 2 marquette guys and feel both would be great fits for the bucks. i can't say i know that much about the players that would be available at 42 at this time though.

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When Drew Gooden is starting at center for you that's just sad. He's a good player

 

I strongly disagree with this. There really is no good attribute on the basketball court that Drew Gooden possesses.

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I'd just as soon go polished college player at #12 than some raw project like they've done the last two drafts with Harris and Saunders. Either that or grab a European player.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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The funny thing is they want to make the playoffs every year, even if they're just the 8th seed so they can get steamrolled but they draft players who aren't ready to contribute right away. It seems if your strategy is to make the playoffs every year no matter what you would want to get a guy on a rookie contract who can contribute.
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I'd just as soon go polished college player at #12 than some raw project like they've done the last two drafts with Harris and Saunders. Either that or grab a European player.

i agree with this, they need to draft someone that can help them. the problem is that skiles doesn't play rookies. my #1 choice is sullinger, he can help the bucks on day 1, even only as a junior. just don't know if he will be around since mocks have him from 8-14

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I just saw that Toronto might be willing to trade their #8 pick. Would Milwaukee be smart to trade a future first rounder (maybe next year's first rounder top 3 protected) and this year's second rounder to Toronto for that pick? I just have this idea that in the deepest draft in years you need to get as many picks as possible. With #8 and #12 you can maybe walk away with a Perry Jones and a Kendall Marshall. Or a Tyler Zeller and an Austin Rivers. That would make Monta Ellis expendable at the deadline next year which could get you your first rounder back.

 

John Hammond seems intent on piecing together a roster of veterans that don't know how to play together. The teams needs to go in a full fledged rebuild mode. I'd even consider trading Jennings if you can get a top 5 pick this year. I think he's made it very clear that he's gone after next season. I just don't understand Hammond's moves. I don't understand why he feels a team that is good enough only for about 7th-10th place in the conference is the way to go.

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Hammonds is the king of the re-tread move. How many times as he signed or traded for a player only to ship them out a year later after realizing he has made a mistake? Maggette, Jackson, Etc.

 

It is hard to be successful without some continuity. The huge amount of turnover for the Bucks is largely because Hammond has made so many mistakes that he feels he has to constantly correct. The Bucks have some solid players; but you get the feeling they will always be mediocre.

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There really is no good attribute on the basketball court that Drew Gooden possesses.

 

"Good" is relative to the current NBA. He'd be eaten alive in olden days, but in this NBA at least he can score on occasion. 12 points and 7.7 rebounds over his career per game isn't awful. He's comparable to Tim Thomas (yeah, I know, not saying much), who the Bucks paid about 40 percent more for the same production. Just trying to turn lemons into lemonade.

"When a piano falls on Yadier Molina get back to me, four letter." - Me, upon reading a ESPN update referencing the 'injury-plagued Cardinals'
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way too early to write off Sanders and Harris. The latter is the youngest in the league and showed that he can score efficiently right now. And Sanders came on towards the end of the year. Both should stick in the league for several years at the very least. Just gotta get rid of Skiles so they actually get minutes.

 

I like marshall but not in the lottery. Sullinger would be a good get at 12 though.

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