User Driven Power 50 (June 2012) -> Results are up in post #34

[CheezWizHed]

Ok, its about time to start a new User Driven P50. It seemed to work pretty well last time, so lets keep the format about the same:

 

1) Please list your players 1 to X (stop at 50 or 30 or 1 if you like) with no commentary. I plan on cut-n-paste into Excel to do this, so less work is appreciated!

2) Only submit one list. If you update please update your original list.

3) Please list one player per line.

4) Submissions will close in two weeks-ish. So around June 9th or so.

 

Results will be pretty simple. First place vote gets 50 points, 2nd, 49, etc...

 

Last user P50 is here

[wibadgers23]

1. Tyler Thornburg

2. Jimmy Nelson

3. Wily Peralta

4. Taylor Jungmann

5. Jed Bradley

[nate82]

1. Thornburg

2. Gennett

3. Bradley

4. Jungmann

5. Schafer

6. Peralta

7. Green

8. Lopez

9. Gindl

10. Nelson

11. Manzanillo

12. Arcia

13. K. Davis

14. Ozuna

15. Heckathorn

16. Fiers

17. Bucci

18. Hall

19. Morris

20. Rivera

21. Perez

22. Ramirez

23. Ke. Davis

24. Scarpetta

25. D'Vo

 

My favorite line so far comes from Hunter Morris: 19 doubles! with a line of .298/.352/.478. I know it is just AA but Morris is putting together a nice year so far. Gennett, K. Davis, and Morris look to be having a rather nice year in AA. Speaking of K. Davis he has a nice slash line of .328/.451/.448 in only 25 games! Morris is having a rather surprising good year.

[Kelbysdaddy]

morris will be the brewers best position prospect if he lowers his k:bb rate to 2.5:1. he has good power, hits for a good average and might be a teixeira type 1b.

[trwi7]

1. Tyler Thornburg

2. Wily Peralta

3. Jed Bradley

4. Taylor Jungmann

5. Jimmy Nelson

6. Logan Schafer

7. Caleb Gindl

8. Jorge Lopez

9. Scooter Gennett

10. Kyle Heckathorn

 

I can't get on board with Morris being a legit prospect right now. Just doesn't get on base enough and that's a bad thing for a first baseman, especially when he's not even slugging .500.

[HiAndTight]

1. Tyler Thornburg

2. Wily Peralta

3. Jed Bradley

4. Taylor Jungmann

5. Jimmy Nelson

6. Logan Schafer

7. Caleb Gindl

8. Jorge Lopez

9. Scooter Gennett

10. Kyle Heckathorn

 

I can't get on board with Morris being a legit prospect right now. Just doesn't get on base enough and that's a bad thing for a first baseman, especially when he's not even slugging .500.

 

This is close to mine. And I agree with Morris.

 

Mine goes

 

1-Tyler Thornburg

2-Jimmy Nelson-With TT and Nelson both capable of throwing upper 90's, plus off-speed pitches and developing changes, could form nice 1-2.

3-Jed Bradley-Lefty who was hitting 97 last year. Little concerned he's only throwing 89-90 this year. If he can sit at 92-93 with his other pitches, he could be a #2.

4-Taylor Jungman-Reliable workhorse. Again, if he can work a tick or two higher, could have #2 upside. Expect last 3 to be more 3's, but could be a higher ceiling.

5-Wily Peralta-What the hell? Hope he's healthy. A guy who can throw 98 in the 7th, get GB's and put up the numbers he did last year could be a Tim Hudson type pitcher. But right now he's getting hit like Suppan did. Not sure what the deal is. I fear on July's he could be about 10 spots lower due to injury.

6-Scooter Gennett-Just keeps on chugging and the skeptics have less and less to try and use to diminish him. Everyone knew he wasn't a 16th round talent. Few expected this.

7-Jorge Lopez-Ace upside.

8-Brooks Hall-One of my favorites. Reminds me of Odorizzi.

9-Orlando Arcia-Just 17, so ACL surgery doesn't really concern me.

10-Caleb Gindl-Hitting .200. We all know he's got a lot more than that in him. I believe he can be a .265/.355 hitter with a cannon for an arm in RF.

11-Logan Schafer-Poor mans Steve Finley....though maybe not THAT poor. Will never hit 30 HR's, probably won't hit 30....but could hit 15 with a .285/.340/.400 slash line and play good defense.

12-Nick Bucci-Both he and Scarpetta are still huge questions. Scarpetta moreso as he's got that 94-95 MPH fastball and that big curve.

13-Cody Scarpetta-

14-Cody Garfield-Could be another fantastic catcher.

15-D'vontey Richardson-Huge upside.

16-Yadiel Rivera-Again, has very good upside at shortstop. Not sure if he sticks though.

17-Hunter Morris

18-Kentrail Davis-Though this is the one I can see making the biggest jump in the near future. Still has great tools and all the bat speed needed.

19-Drew Gagnon-Probably about 7-8 spots too low.

20-Shawn Zarraga(though...if he's not a C anymore, not sure where he is)

21-Alan Williams-could also shoot up quickly. Guy like him are going to be huge for us IF we sign Greinke. Could move very quickly as a dominant loogy, or even a 7th inning guy.

22-Mark Rogers-Not ready to give up juuust yet.

23-Rob Wooten-Future is almost certainly as a 4th or 5th guy out of the pen, and probably at best a SU man. Almost definitely makes the big league club, but just doesn't have the arm to dominate.

24-Eric Arnett-No problem bringing him back as he shows signs of life and as a future 1st, I do put some stock into that. If he had the potential to be a 1st rounder a couple years ago, there's still talent there. We'll see how he progresses.

25-Carlos Sosa-Big arm, could be a future closer.

26-Lee Haydel-Not a clue where he fits in, but he's hitting well in AA and has blazing speed. Could easily be a very good utility OF'er.

 

 

I'd do this 10 times and it'd be slightly different 10 times.

 

 

 

Edit-Mike Fiers at #10.

And Heckathorn at 14.

Forgot about him. My list is most definitely skewed towards guys with upside.

[Mass Haas]

9-Orlando Arcia-Just 17, so ACL surgery doesn't really concern me.

 

Just an FYI, but reports were fractured ankle.

[TuesdaysWithRillo]

1. Taylor Jungmann

2. Wily Peralta

3. Tyler Thornburg

4. Scooter Gennett

5. Jimmy Nelson

6. Jed Bradley

7. Logan Schafer

8. Jorge Lopez

9. Caleb Gindl

10. Orlando Arcia

11. Brooks Hall

12. Michael Fiers

13. Kyle Heckathorn

14. Drew Gagnon

15. Nic Bucci

16. Alan Williams

17. D'Vontrey Richardson

18. Khris Davis

19. Santo Manzanillo

20. Yadiel Rivera

21. Cody Scarpetta

22. Austin Ross

23. Max Walla

24. Hunter Morris

25. Kentrail Davis

26. Mark Rogers

27. Eric Arnett

28. Brandon Kintzler

29. Daniel Meadows

30. Lee Haydel

31. Robert Wooten

32. Martin Maldonado

33. Nick Ramirez

34. Jason Rogers

35. Tommy Toledo

36. Matt Miller

37. Tyler Roberts

38. Ruben Ozuna

39. Shawn Zarraga

40. Mike Walker

41. Cameron Garfield

42. Jesus Sanchez

43. Brock Kjeldgaard

44. Josh Stinson

45. Evan Anundsen

46. Eric Farris

47. T.J. Mittelstaedt

48. Cody Hawn

49. Shea Vucinich

50. Mark Williams

[homer]

1. Taylor Jungmann

2. Wily Peralta

3. Tyler Thornburg

4. Scooter Gennett

5. Jimmy Nelson

6. Jed Bradley

7. Logan Schafer

8. Jorge Lopez

9. Caleb Gindl

10. Orlando Arcia

11. Brooks Hall

12. Michael Fiers

13. Kyle Heckathorn

14. Drew Gagnon

15. Nic Bucci

16. Alan Williams

17. D'Vontrey Richardson

18. Khris Davis

19. Santo Manzanillo

20. Yadiel Rivera

21. Cody Scarpetta

22. Austin Ross

23. Max Walla

24. Hunter Morris

25. Kentrail Davis

26. Mark Rogers

27. Eric Arnett

28. Brandon Kintzler

29. Daniel Meadows

30. Lee Haydel

31. Robert Wooten

32. Martin Maldonado

33. Nick Ramirez

34. Jason Rogers

35. Tommy Toledo

36. Matt Miller

37. Tyler Roberts

38. Ruben Ozuna

39. Shawn Zarraga

40. Mike Walker

41. Cameron Garfield

42. Jesus Sanchez

43. Brock Kjeldgaard

44. Josh Stinson

45. Evan Anundsen

46. Eric Farris

47. T.J. Mittelstaedt

48. Cody Hawn

49. Shea Vucinich

50. Mark Williams

 

 

I would swap Vucinich and Williams.

[TuesdaysWithRillo]

I would swap Vucinich and Williams.

 

Haha. It'd be hard for me to fight you there. Getting that low in the rankings is pretty hard to assess.

[DHonks]

1. Thornburg

2. Nelson

3. Jungmann

4. Bradley

5. Gindl

6. Green

7. Peralta

8. Rogers

9. Hall

10. Fiers

11. Gennett

12. Wooten

13. Anundsen

14. Miller

15. Scarpetta

16. Schafer

17. Walla

[CheezWizHed]

HiAndTight, can you please add your edits into the list? I can almost guarantee I'll get it wrong if I have to edit the list.

 

Also, please remember to leave out the commentary on your list. It makes it much harder to parse the list correctly, especially if you name someone else in the commentary of another person's list (Bucci/Scarpetta).

 

Thanks,

CWH

[bkrause2]

1. Tyler Thornburg

2. Taylor Jungmann

3. Scooter Gennett

4. Jimmy Nelson

5. Wily Peralta

6. Jed Bradley

7. Jorge Lopez

8. Logan Schafer

9. Caleb Gindl

10. Kyle Heckathorn

11. Brooks Hall

12. Santo Manzanillo

13. Yadiel Rivera

14. Chris McFarland

15. Khris Davis

16. Hunter Morris

17. Kentrail Davis

18. Cody Scarpetta

19. Michael Fiers

20. Nick Bucci

 

Not sure about my rankings of Bradley and Lopez but they are the two guys on my list that I haven't seen play yet. I'm also very high on McFarland after watching him this spring, I think he could be another Scooter. (High school player, signed away from college, who hits everything) I would have had D'Vo ranked somewhere between 10-15 but I left him off because I have no idea what his status is and if/when he will be returning.

[heresrobin]

1. Tyler Thornburg

2. Jimmy Nelson

3. Scooter Gennett

4. Wily Peralta

5. Jed Bradley

6. Taylor Jungmann

7. Logan Schafer

8. Hunter Morris

9. Yadiel Rivera

10. Caleb Gindl

11. Nick Bucci

12. Orlando Arcia

13. Jorge Lopez

14. Michael Fiers

15. Khris Davis

16. Cody Scarpetta

17. Hiram Burgos

18. Kyle Heckathorn

19. Andy Moye

20. Michael Reed

21. Chris McFarland

22. Evan Anundsen

23. Tommy Toledo

24. Santo Manzanillo

25. D'Vontrey Richardson

26. Gian Rizzo

27. Drew Gagnon

28. Brooks Hall

29. Sthervin Matos

30. Ruben Ozuna

[TheCrew07]

1 Thornburg

2 Nelson

3 Green

4 Peralta

5 Gennett

6 Jungmann

7 Lopez

8 Arcia

9 Bradley

10 Schafer

11 Gindl

12 Heckathorn

13 Ozuna

14 Manzanillo

15 Rivera

16 Bucci

17 Moye

18 Fiers

19 Gagnon

20 Khris Davis

21 Hall

22 Walla

23 Rizzo

24 Rivas

25 Ramirez

26 Perez

27 Morris

28 Kintzler

29 McClendon

30 Kentrail Davis

31 Garfield

32 Reed

33 Meadows

34 Haydel

35 Toledo

36 Farris

37 Roberts

38 Prince

39 Mittelstaedt

40 Mondesi

41 McFarland

42 GoForth

43 Mark Williams

44 R.J. Seidel

45 Barnes

46 Jenkins

47 Strong

48 Keller

49 Peterson

50 Milton Gomez

 

I pulled D'Vo as I don't know if he's ever going to play baseball again.

[monkeyman343434]

Has there been any news as to what's going on with D'Vo?

 

Also, what does Seth Harvey throw? Does he have the "stuff" to possibly make it to the bullpen at some point?

[TheCrew07]

Cripes I can't believe I forgot Harvey

[FVBrewerFan]

1. Thornburg

2. Jungmann

3. Nelson

4. Gennett

5. Schafer

6. Bradley

7. Rivera

8. Lopez

9. Gindl

10. Peralta

[DKM4Boston]

1. Jungmann

2. Thornburg

3. Nelson

4. Bradley

5. Peralta

6. Schafer

7. Fiers

8. Morris

9. Gennett

10. Lopez

11. Rivera

12. Manzanillo

13. Ke. Davis

14. Gindl

15. Arcia

16. Bucci

17. Kh. Davis

18. Green

19. Walla

20. Hall

21. Heckathorn

22. Scarpetta

23. Wooten

24. Arnett

25. Moye

26. M. Rogers

27. Ramirez

28. Gagnon

29. Richardson

30. Garfield

31. Toledo

32. McFarland

33. Zarraga

34. Mondesi

35. Ozuna

36. Al. Williams

37. Roberts

38. Goforth

39. Je. Sanchez

40. Walker

41. Miller

42. Maldonado

43. Reed

44. Ross

45. Haydel

46. Burgos

47. Strong

48. Harvey

49. Meadows

50. Keller

[TheCrew07]

I also forgot Burgos... I shouldn't have worked off of my original list and just went through the rosters like I usually do, Hiram certainly deserved to be mentioned someplace.

[brwrsfan]

Has this replaced the actual Power 50 on this site? That one hasn't been updated in almost a year.....

[CheezWizHed]

I don't think anything could replace what those guys did. Not sure if that is completely gone, but I know some of the moderators that handled that in the past have had some changes and are less able to contribute like they have in the past, so us amateurs try to chip in.

[CheezWizHed]

Cripes I can't believe I forgot Harvey

I also forgot Burgos...

 

Go ahead an modify your original post if you want to. I'm not actually doing anything with the lists until its closed...

[Tedaldtada]

This should probably close today, no? I am building my list right now.

[Tedaldtada]

1 Tyler Thornburg

2 Wily Peralta

3 Jimmy Nelson

4 Taylor Jungmann

5 Jed Bradley

6 Scooter Gennett

7 Hunter Morris

8 Jorge Lopez

9 Logan Schafer

10 Orlando Arcia

11 Caleb Gindl

12 Brooks Hall

13 Drew Gagnon

14 Nic Bucci

15 Cody Scarpetta

16 Ruben Ozuna

17 Chris McFarland

18 Max Walla

19 Yaddy Rivera

20 Michael Reed

21 Nick Ramirez

22 Santo Manzanillo

23 Kyle Heckathorn

24 Sthervin Matos

25 Gian Rizzo

26 Carlos Belonis

27 Joel Dicent

28 Orlando Torrez

29 Raul Mondesi Jr.

30 Milton Gomez

31 Andy Moye

32 Khris Davis

33 David Goforth

34 Chadwin Stang

35 Cam Garfield

36 Dustin Houle

37 T.J. Mittelstaedt

38 Mike Walker

39 Joel Pierce

40 Danny Keller

41 Brandol Perez

42 Yunior Santana

43 Alan Williams

44 Hiram Burgos

45 Mark Rogers

46 Eric Arnett

47 Thomas Keeling

48 Carlos Sosa

49 Renaldo Jenkins

50 Jose Pena

51 Elvis Rubio

52 Shawn Zarraga

53 Juan Ortiz

54 Malcom Dowell

55 Seth Harvey

 

 

I rattled off the top-12 pretty easily. The next tier was from 13-30. Then another tier from 31-55.

 

The guys who just missed:

 

Kentrail Davis

Matt Miller

Tyler Roberts

Mark Williams

Josh Prince

Maverick Lasker

Nick Shaw

Ben McMahan

John Dishon

Sean Halton

Jason Rogers

 

I did not include Richardson and Osmel Perez because they apparently are not baseball players anymore. I also left of Fiers and Green because they will be graduates soon.

 

I am pretty bullish on much of the Latin talent from the DR Academy. I also think Chris McFarland will make a big jump. My toughest omission was probably Ben McMahan.

 

I am sticking with Peralta at #2 because one bad month should never make or break a prospect. His first 3-4 starts were as dominant as any stretch by anyone in the system this season. He is at the highest level and probably has the most projectable stuff in the system this side of Jimmy Nelson. I refuse to knee-jerk!

 

Edit: Forgot Joel Pierce. Added him.