Jump to content
Brewer Fanatic

Statistical Comparisons between Joe Morgan & Tim Raines


I thought it might be interesting to compare a player like Morgan who is arguably a little over-rated by stat-heads and a player like Raines who many feel should be in the Hall of Fame.

 

At first glance to the casual fan, Morgan's numbers don't jump off the page at them, a .271 career BA, just 16 HR's a season. But as we know Morgan had a .392 career OBP and a OPS+ of 137 and he stole a LOT of bases. His peak years of '75 & '76 were just outrageous, a .444 OBP with 60 steals and 27 HR's in 1976 ranks as one of the most valuable seasons in MLB history, especially considering a Gold Glove 2B achieved that... and the year before that he had a .466 OBP with 67 steals and 17 HR's. Both were MVP seasons

 

The thing I cannot wrap my head around is Joe Morgan's career .182 BA in the post-season, especially for a guy who was known as a "clutch hitter". This was in 50 games played so not a hugely small sample. He did have a few great post-season series, especially the 1976 World Series where he put up a .333/.412

 

Now I would never argue that Tim Raines was a better defensive player than Morgan (while Raines played some 2B he was mainly an OF) but I think a credible argument could be made that Raines was a More Valuable Offensive Player.

 

Tim Raines was a switch hitter who hit .294 over his career with a .385 OBP. And he was more of a stolen base threat than Morgan with almost as much power (Raines averaged 28 Doubles per 162 games over his career while Morgan averaged 27 doubles per 162). Raines had 5 straight seasons of 70+ Stolen Bases. Raines' caught stealing ratio is off the charts.

 

Morgan's top season of Total Bases was 1976 with 272 plus 60 Steals plus 114 walks for a 446 Total

Raines had a season of Total Bases in 1983 with 264 TB's + 90 Steals plus 97 Walks for a 451 Total

 

Raines had 10 seasons over 200+ Total Bases and in those 10 seasons he stole 592 Bases (an avg of 59.2 SB's)

Morgan had 11 seasons over 200+ Total Bases and in those 11 seasons he stole 514 bases (an avg of 46.7 SB's)

 

Joe Morgan hit .267 with a .381 OBP vs LHP

Joe Morgan hit .274 with a .398 OBP vs RHP

Tim Raines hit .293 with a .381 OBP vs LHP

Tim Raines hit .294 with a .387 OBP vs RHP

 

Again, Morgan had a career .182 post-season BA. Raines had a .270 career post-season BA

 

Morgan averaged 42 SB's per 162 games

Raines averaged 52 SB's per 162 games

 

If you were putting together an All-Time All-Star team, and you didn't need a 2B (say you already had Rogers Hornsby on your team) and what you needed was a table setter, a spark-plug, a lead-off hitter, I'd say Tim Raines might be a better pick than Joe Morgan

The David Stearns era: Controllable Young Talent. Watch the Jedi work his magic!
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Recommended Posts

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

The Twins Daily Caretaker Fund
The Brewer Fanatic Caretaker Fund

You all care about this site. The next step is caring for it. We’re asking you to caretake this site so it can remain the premier Brewers community on the internet. Included with caretaking is ad-free browsing of Brewer Fanatic.

×
×
  • Create New...