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2012-04-28 Brewers (Estrada) at Cardinals (Lohse), 12:05 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 7-3]

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Schlitz001 First Round Pick

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The bullpen is thin, but there are still viable options. You have Loe, K-Rod and Ax who haven't pitched since Tuesday. If you pinch hit for Estrada, you just about double your chance of scoring with the bases loaded. It just seems like an easy decision.

 

Plenty of time left to comeback here.

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This isn't one of our studs Yo/Greinke/Marcum on the mound that you can push some innings out of with confidence. Estrada is an average pitcher at best and to let him hit in one of the few scoring chances of the game is crazy, especially when you are looking at 1 more inning out of him, 2 MAX.
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Again, honestly, what middle relievers can you have confidence in?

 

Any are as good or better than a tiring Estrada.

 

Yep, especially when you have a chance to get a 2-run lead. Risk vs. reward.

This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.
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Any of them just as much as Estrada, but that's not the point. Getting runs right there has much more value than stretching out 1 more inning out of your 6th starter who probably just started taking actual BP a week or so ago on his first start. If you have arms in the pen you need to use them, the 'who do you have confidence in?' line isn't even applicable, they are in our pen for a reason - do you have confidence in Estrada? B/c I have just as much confidence in them as I do in him going into the 6th inning.
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Again, honestly, what middle relievers can you have confidence in?

 

It doesn't matter how much confidence anyone has in any middle reliever. What matters is the fact that I have a million times more confidence in any bat on the bench coming throgh with the bases loaded than I have in Estrada coming through in a make or break situation in this game. I thought it was stupid when it happened and what happened next inning just proved me and many others right.

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I never heard the Uecker tuba story. That is hilarious and the picture is priceless.

You should check out Uecker's book "Catcher in the Wry". It was recommended to me by someone on this site a number of years back. It has all of Uecker's classic stories and anecdotes.

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Well kind of cruddy game but at least it gave me something to watch. ESPN blasting me with the NFL draft which makes Golf or Nascar seem exciting has killed any chance of anything other than baseball being worth watching today. Talk about over doing it, it has just gotten silly at this point.
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Yep, the NFL draft...when "winners" and "losers" are determined based of "experts'" opinions that aren't employed by any NFL front offices, even though they all initially talk about a pick being at least solid 95% of the time. I just can't fathom how people enjoy watching 10 people from ESPN commentating on how some 6th round pick was good value and how he'll fit into somebody's scheme, when it's likely he'll never be heard from again.
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FWIW Estrada agrees with TM.....

 

"I felt pretty good," Estrada said. "I felt like I threw a lot of strikes. The defense was amazing. They are a good hitting team. They capitalized on whatever mistakes I made. Freese hit that home run on a bad changeup. With Molina it was supposed to go down and away on that curveball and I left it in and he barreled it. That's what good hitting teams do. You have to minimize your mistakes."

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Back end of the rotation starting pitcher working his way through the lineup for the third time. You are probably only going to get one more inning out of him, so I don't really see the point of not pinch hitting for him. Even a tired bullpen is probably expected to do at least as well.

 

And wow, Estrada agrees that he should have been allowed to keep pitching? Who would have guessed that.

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Oh my God I hate the Cardinals crappy pitchers who do well for whatever reason. A nine pitch walk??

Fixed that for you. I feel fortunate that I missed most of this one, including/especially the TV announcing.

Remember: the Brewers never panic like you do.
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