Reds acquire Sean Marshall

[StearnsFTW]

http://www.mlbtraderumors...eds-for-travis-wood.html

 

Reds are piling up some very nice arms. They're starting to concern me a little bit.

[trwi7]

I think the Reds overpaid, again. I wouldn't give up Wood for Marshall straight up and they apparently added two prospects.

[RockCoCougars]

I'm assuming that either Marshall or Chapman will close. This will free up their Coco Cash to try to lock up Votto. I like the move personally.

[StearnsFTW]

I think the Reds overpaid, again. I wouldn't give up Wood for Marshall straight up and they apparently added two prospects.

I disagree. I don't think much of Wood.

 

Doesn't sound like the prospects are much. If they are, it could change my mind.

[MNBrew]

Now our wealth of LH bats are in big trouble against the Reds.

 

If I'm the LH-heavy Twins, I'm worried. For the Brewers, I'm not.

[xisxisxis]

One trade by Theo and he's already done better then Hendry during his entire Cubs career........

[brettac1]

Yeah, that's a pretty excellent move for the Cubs.

[PrinceFielderx1]

Wood is under control through 2016, and Marshall is a FA after 2012. Is it just me or does this scream overpaying on the Reds part? This doesn't even include the 2 prospects the Reds gave up.

[Polish Falcons]

Straight up it might sound like an overpay but I think the Reds can afford to do this because they have a surplus of starting pitchers. Even after trading Travis Wood they still have six quality MLB starters for the 2012 rotation: Latos, Cueto, Arroyo, Bailey, Leake, and I understand they want to move Chapman to the rotation. They need to make room for him. I imagine either Bailey or Leake would have to get bumped to the bullpen. Travis Wood did not have much value as a mid reliever. Sean Marshall was an elite reliever the last two years. He could potentially take over for Cordero at closer, further allowing the move of Chapman from relief to starter. I think it makes sense for the Reds and yes I think they have as good a chance as anybody to compete in the Central next year as a result of these moves they've been making.

[BritInWI]

Marshall's a very good setup man who might be able to close for the Reds, but Wood has been a really good pitcher in the minors (and 2010 with the Reds). Last year he regressed a little but given that Marshall is a free agent after this season and Wood is bound to his club for several years, it doesn't matter who the prospects are - the Cubs win in this trade by a country mile (at least on paper).

 

The only thing that I can think is that the Reds are in "win now" mode and feel that Marshall puts them over the top - but all I can think of is the Doyle Alexander trade (only not as good)...

[PrinceEatMeat]

Cubs got a steal in this trade. Wood has potential, and is under control for 5 years. Plus they get two prospects. Marshall is a good setup man, but he can be replaced. They may have lost him to free agency anyway. Got a very nice haul for him. Way more than they should've. Although, the Reds could afford to dump a starter after getting Latos. Marshall is still a good pickup for them. I just think they gave up too much.

[TooLiveBrew]

Straight up it might sound like an overpay but I think the Reds can afford to do this because they have a surplus of starting pitchers.

 

What I don't get is why they would use that surplus to get a guy who'll pitch 75-80 innings in a best-case scenario. I do agree that they've got as good a shot as anyone at contending in the 2012 NL Central, but I would've said that prior to this deal, too.

[Ennder]

Yeah this is a bad move by the Reds and the other move was questionable if not bad, I'm just not feeling the Reds love here. They are better for 2012 but the franchise as a whole has taken a pretty large step back overall. I say that as someone who likes the Reds and has an Eric Davis avatar!

[RedFlash2]

Five years of Travis Wood .v. one year of Sean Marshall, I don't know if I would have done that if I was the Reds? And there are some rumors that one of the two players is a top 10 prospect, which makes this deal look a little worse for the Reds. Don't get me wrong, if you are going to overpay for a player make sure that player is a good one. Sean Marshall is an impact reliever. But if adding Latos and Marshall worth pretty setting the farm system back at least 5 years? Especially on Marshall who isn't likely to re-sign with them in the offseason and the Reds won't get a draft pick for his services. Not a great move for the future of the Reds, but it is a great move for the short term.

[StearnsFTW]

Yeah this is a bad move by the Reds and the other move was questionable if not bad, I'm just not feeling the Reds love here. They are better for 2012 but the franchise as a whole has taken a pretty large step back overall. I say that as someone who likes the Reds and has an Eric Davis avatar!

I agree that the first deal was not a good one. Latos is good, but man they gave up a lot.

 

This one I like for them.

 

I obviously have a different opinion of Wood than most here. If what redflash said is true and that they gave up a top 10 type prospect, I like it considerably less.

[JohnBriggs12]

I like Marshall a lot. The Cubs closed a hole in their rotation but created a big one in their bullpen Marshall was the glue.

 

Reds are clearly focused on this year and why not while the Cubs focus is more like 2014. It's probably a good deal for both, and hence not good from a Brewer perspective.

 

I still think the Cubs end up with Fielder because he'll still be in his prime 2 years from now too.

[monty57]

Reds are clearly focused on this year and why not while the Cubs focus is more like 2014. It's probably a good deal for both, and hence not good from a Brewer perspective.

 

I still think the Cubs end up with Fielder because he'll still be in his prime 2 years from now too.

 

The Reds thought the division was their's last season, and their pitching let them down, so they're obviously pushing for the division this year, and are willing to give up some of their future to win now.

The Brewers are playing for the division this year, after which they will likely lose 3/5 of their rotation. They are also blocking their best position prospects with players who may or may not be good in a few years, when the team will have a lot of big contracts on the books.

The Cardinals are old, and are playing for the division this year, even after losing the best hitter in baseball. In a few years, they will be even older and will have a lot of big contracts on the books.

 

The Pirates have some good young talent, but haven't won anything in a generation.

The Astros are leaving the division.

 

Yeah, I think the Cubs would be in a good position in a couple of years if they stock up on some young pitchers and sign Fielder. They'll get a load of young players for Garza, and will have money as their bloated contracts continue to fall off the books. This was a much better move for them than it was for the Reds, especially if the other prospects ever make the majors. If they continue to make moves like this, if they do sign Fielder and if they can sell their strategy to their fans, they'll be front runners for the division in 2-3 years.

[GoudaBrew]

I still find it odd that Marshall never succeeded as a starter. A lefty, high strikeout, high groundball pitcher that throws 3 plus pitches and can get righties out with relative ease. I wonder if the Reds might extend him and try the C.J Wilson experiment with him.